I like xbox1 exclusives ,but xbone sucks ,should I get a ps4?

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Lil Frier

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Just get both then the only decision is which platform to buy a particular game on and you can start over on the debate but throw controller preferences in there too lol.

That's really not a feasible solution for everyone. Some don't have the money for both. Some are getting it for someone as a gift, or as a gift from someone. Some just don't find the value in two consoles because of time constraints. Money's not endless, nor is time, so the answer's not usually "both."
 

purbeast0

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Of course, though that logic doesn't quite apply to things perfectly. When people are looking at consoles to decide which to get, this is something to consider, if you are able to see the difference. You wouldn't say, "just because the PS4 doesn't have Halo, it doesn't make Bloodborne worse," to someone deciding which console he wants. Picking a console, then questioning your decision, then your point really applies.

Any meaningful debate/discussion is mostly dead once you pick a platform. This is more about people yet to decide, and I don't care for using your argument in that scenario.

if you are basing your decision based on anything other than the games you want to play, then all hope is already lost. unless i guess you start taking the media stuff into consideration, but all of that is resolution independent since they both output 1080p video no problem.
 

DaveSimmons

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Buy the consoles that offer the games you want to play.

I have a PC, PS2, PS3, 360. When there are enough games that I want to play I'll get a PS4, X1, or both. "It's the games, stupid" - Bill Clinton
 

cmdrdredd

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That's really not a feasible solution for everyone. Some don't have the money for both. Some are getting it for someone as a gift, or as a gift from someone. Some just don't find the value in two consoles because of time constraints. Money's not endless, nor is time, so the answer's not usually "both."

The answer is always both, has been since Genesis/SNES days. That way you don't miss any games and can pick the best version of any title that releases. It's always my answer.
 
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Lil Frier

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The answer is always both, has been since Genesis/SNES days. That way you don't miss any games and can pick the best version of any title that releases. It's always my answer.

Feel free to either mail me a PS4 for transfer me the $400 (plus tax) for one. Things aren't free, and going to college just reinforces that.
 

Karl775

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If your thinking of changing consoles, why not change the format. For the price of a new console you can get a good gaming PC. You'll save money on the games and the money saved you can upgrade the hardware so you get a better experience playing the game. I changed over about 3 weeks back and I sorry I didn't do it years a go. Lucky for me I sold a lot of ps4 game and the console, put the cash together and got a high end gaming PC.
The games are so muck cheaper you will save in the long run. If you don't believe me about the game prices, try looking at Steam, G2A or Humble bundle.
Ok I had a few friends that I've lost touch with but I'm sure I'll find more who play the same games I do, btw I get true 1080 HD, non of this 720 poo.
Cheers Karl
Sorry if I've upset any console gamers out there, but the games don't look half as good and cost a lot more.
 

Lil Frier

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If your thinking of changing consoles, why not change the format. For the price of a new console you can get a good gaming PC. You'll save money on the games and the money saved you can upgrade the hardware so you get a better experience playing the game. I changed over about 3 weeks back and I sorry I didn't do it years a go. Lucky for me I sold a lot of ps4 game and the console, put the cash together and got a high end gaming PC.
The games are so muck cheaper you will save in the long run. If you don't believe me about the game prices, try looking at Steam, G2A or Humble bundle.
Ok I had a few friends that I've lost touch with but I'm sure I'll find more who play the same games I do, btw I get true 1080 HD, non of this 720 poo.
Cheers Karl
Sorry if I've upset any console gamers out there, but the games don't look half as good and cost a lot more.

1. Not much (if any) cheaper at launch on PC.
2. Still can't play console exclusives on PC.
3. Many of us have PCs and are picking a console to go with PC.

Bad argument irrelevant to the discussion. The person said he likes the One exclusives, so telling him game prices for titles he doesn't want are better makes no sense.
 

purbeast0

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1. Not much (if any) cheaper at launch on PC.
2. Still can't play console exclusives on PC.
3. Many of us have PCs and are picking a console to go with PC.

Bad argument irrelevant to the discussion. The person said he likes the One exclusives, so telling him game prices for titles he doesn't want are better makes no sense.

to be fair, the whole premise of this thread doesn't make sense. it's amusing to read though.
 

xantub

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1. Not much (if any) cheaper at launch on PC.
oh you're so wrong there. You can get most if not all games cheaper at launch on PC. GTA5 for example is $48 in GMG.
2. Still can't play console exclusives on PC.
And you can't play PC games on the consoles, so it's a moot point.
Bad argument irrelevant to the discussion. The person said he likes the One exclusives, so telling him game prices for titles he doesn't want are better makes no sense.
It's not really irrelevant, just an alternative to consider.
 

Lil Frier

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to be fair, the whole premise of this thread doesn't make sense. it's amusing to read though.

Agreed.

oh you're so wrong there. You can get most if not all games cheaper at launch on PC. GTA5 for example is $48 in GMG.

And you can't play PC games on the consoles, so it's a moot point.

It's not really irrelevant, just an alternative to consider.

1. Nope, I'm right. Best Buy's GCU is $30 for a 2-year subscription, and you get 20% off all new games bought in those 2 years. EVERY launch game I buy is $48 (plus tax) through it, and some have a $10 rewards certificate, if you pre-order. Plus, you can then trade those games in towards your next game. I probably bought 5 brand new games in about a 2-month span late last year, and it cost me maybe $75-$100 total, thanks to the $48/game purchase price and $44/game trade-in value.

2. The OP said he likes the Xbox One exclusives, though. He didn't say he did (or didn't) like PC exclusives.

3. It's irrelevant because a) this is the console gaming forum (not that it REALLY matters), and b) the OP asked if he should get the One or PS4. He asked a 2-answer question, and the guy gave an answer that was neither of those options.
 

CZroe

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People called Bioshock and Gears of War "XBOX-exclusive" last generation even though they we're on PC. Bioshock eventually came to PS3. Why is pointing out a third option to a two option question not allowed?
 

purbeast0

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People called Bioshock and Gears of War "XBOX-exclusive" last generation even though they we're on PC. Bioshock eventually came to PS3.

there were console exlusives...

until they came out on other platforms.
 

Fulle

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Bioshock released on August 21, 2007 on PC and Xbox360, and then released on PS3 in October 2008. Bioshock 2 released on PC, PS3, and Xbox360 on the same date, as well as Bioshock Infinite. At no point was a Bioshock game a "console exclusive".

Gears of War is mostly Xbox exclusive. The PC version of Gears of War was released like a year after the game came out on Xbox, but then with Gears of War 2, a PC version was never produced... from which point it's been Xbox exclusive. It reminds me of Halo. Where MS produced late PC versions on Halo 1 and Halo 2, but then went Xbox exclusive on Halo 3.

Microsoft is really just flaky when it comes to supporting Windows as a gaming platform. Ryze and Titanfall came to PC, but Sunset Overdrive is running pretty late. I'm not sure if the next Halo will go to PC or not, but looking at how MCC was handled, probably not. Apparently Fable Legends is. Quantum Break's probably going to be Xbox One only.

Anyway, I guess the TLDR of all the above is that MS is an inconsistent publisher when it comes to PC, but quite a few Xbox One "exclusives" will end up on the PC. Just no rhyme or reason on which ones.
 

poofyhairguy

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Anyway, I guess the TLDR of all the above is that MS is an inconsistent publisher when it comes to PC, but quite a few Xbox One "exclusives" will end up on the PC.

Just as a few "PS4 Exclusives" will also be on PC: Street Fighter 5, Hellblade, No Man's Sky, and probably Bloodborne. Given this mix if you are a non-social gamer who doesn't mind not being the first person to play a big game the PC is the most compelling third platform since before the NES hit America.

But if you are like OP and you want to play Xbox 1 games, and then you need to buy a Xbox 1. Pretty simple actually.
 

Fulle

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Just as a few "PS4 Exclusives" will also be on PC: Street Fighter 5, Hellblade, No Man's Sky, and probably Bloodborne. Given this mix if you are a non-social gamer who doesn't mind not being the first person to play a big game the PC is the most compelling third platform since before the NES hit America.

But if you are like OP and you want to play Xbox 1 games, and then you need to buy a Xbox 1. Pretty simple actually.

I was talking about Microsoft Published games. MS seems to flip a coin to decide if they want to make a Windows version or not. Sony typically doesn't port Sony published PlayStation exclusives to PC.

Stuff like Tomb Raider, No Man's Sky, and Street Fighter, are different, because they're published by 3rd parties, not Sony or Microsoft. Sony or MS might try to buy temporary exclusivity on the game or DLC content for a game, but they don't own the IP and most things end up multiplatform eventually. With a lot of indie games, they might be exclusive to one console or another, just due to practical manpower limitations, where they simply aren't big enough to have a big multiplatform release... but then if the game is successful, other platforms are likely.

Bloodborne, unfortunately is unlikely to get a PC port. Sony was the publisher, and sent help from their in house SCE Japan Studio.

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One thing I was leaving out of the "exclusives" story, was that a lot of Japanese developers are short sighted when it comes to the rest of the world. Xbox sells terrible in their region, so sometimes they'll skip porting a game to Xbox, even though the worldwide sales would probably easily justify the cost... So you end up with a lot of "Playstation exclusive" Japanese games, on games where Sony didn't need to buy loyalty. A lot of those titles get PC ports eventually, though.
 
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cmdrdredd

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One thing I was leaving out of the "exclusives" story, was that a lot of Japanese developers are short sighted when it comes to the rest of the world. Xbox sells terrible in their region, so sometimes they'll skip porting a game to Xbox, even though the worldwide sales would probably easily justify the cost... So you end up with a lot of "Playstation exclusive" Japanese games, on games where Sony didn't need to buy loyalty. A lot of those titles get PC ports eventually, though.

Very true. You rarely see Japanese games on Xbox despite sales of Xbox being strong enough to warrant it. A lot of Japanese developers ignore most of the world with their releases too. Some titles never see a western release.
 

Anteaus

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Just to add, even the PS4 isn't doing too hot right now in Japan although much better than the XB1. Mobile gaming on platforms such as the Vita are the big thing right now. Based on the current trends, you are more likely to see some Japanese franchises show up on Vita as their primary platform in spite of being traditionally Playstation. I believe this is why we are seeing a lag in PS4 game releases. Naturally, all the big western hits are going to come out such as Uncharted and Gran Turismo, but I think there won't be as many niche Japanese titles crossing the pond for release on the PS4. You'll have to look toward the Vita for those.
 

Fulle

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Just to add, even the PS4 isn't doing too hot right now in Japan although much better than the XB1. Mobile gaming on platforms such as the Vita are the big thing right now. Based on the current trends, you are more likely to see some Japanese franchises show up on Vita as their primary platform in spite of being traditionally Playstation. I believe this is why we are seeing a lag in PS4 game releases. Naturally, all the big western hits are going to come out such as Uncharted and Gran Turismo, but I think there won't be as many niche Japanese titles crossing the pond for release on the PS4. You'll have to look toward the Vita for those.

While it's true that handhelds are more popular in Japan, I'm not sure if I agree on the idea that the PS4 has sold weak in Japan. Yeah yeah, I know, there were a lot of clickbait articles saying stuff like that, but the sales numbers don't match up to the story. PS4 has sold over 1.3 million already in Japan, which is a more than healthy growth rate for a new console. And, there's already been quite a few games released with the Japanese gaming audience in mind.

Yokuza, Toukiden Kiwami, God Eater 2, One Piece Pirate Warriors 3, Dragon Quest Heroes, and a bunch of other games catering to the Japanese audience, have already been released on PS4, and a bunch of these aren't being ported to Xbox One, even if they're 3rd party games that could easily be ported for a small cost. I think it's insanely moronic not to port them, but that's just the state of Japanese game development right now, I guess.
 

cmdrdredd

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The thing is as of 2013 Europe/Middle East/Africa and North America account for 60% of global video game sales. Asia Pacific is nearly half at 36% which is including Australia, China, Korea etc. So how much is Japan contributing to the gaming market compared to the rest of the world? That's something developers should consider. Not bringing certain titles, especially RPGs to western audiences is nuts to me.
 
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Anteaus

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While it's true that handhelds are more popular in Japan, I'm not sure if I agree on the idea that the PS4 has sold weak in Japan. Yeah yeah, I know, there were a lot of clickbait articles saying stuff like that, but the sales numbers don't match up to the story. PS4 has sold over 1.3 million already in Japan, which is a more than healthy growth rate for a new console. And, there's already been quite a few games released with the Japanese gaming audience in mind.

Yokuza, Toukiden Kiwami, God Eater 2, One Piece Pirate Warriors 3, Dragon Quest Heroes, and a bunch of other games catering to the Japanese audience, have already been released on PS4, and a bunch of these aren't being ported to Xbox One, even if they're 3rd party games that could easily be ported for a small cost. I think it's insanely moronic not to port them, but that's just the state of Japanese game development right now, I guess.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/08/japans-console-and-video-game-sales-hit-24-year-low

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net...chart-playstation-games-dominate-in-software/

Feel free to interpret what you read as you will; however, if you start looking yourself you will find there are numerous sources that say the same thing which is that the Japanese console gaming industry in general isn't as strong as it once was. Currently the Vita is selling much better than the PS4 and it's a simple supply/demand scenario. At the moment, Japanese consumers prefer mobile gaming, ergo mobile devices will see a spike in titles at the expense of traditional consoles.

Note that we are specifically talking about niche titles developed in Japan specifically for the Japanese culture. I'm in no way inferring that the overall ratio of Vita/PS4 sales is as lopsided world wide. The Japanese market simply isn't the dominate force in gaming it once was and shouldn't be seen as a litmus test as to the success of any platform. Even the Japanese aren't embracing the PS4 with the same enthusiasm that they once held with PS1-3. Take away the enormous hardware sales and we find that the PS4 is luke warm at best.

Again, I'm not trying to minimize the impact that the PS4 has worldwide....I'm specifically talking about the Japanese market.

I hope you are right though and I'm willing to reevaluate things once some time has passed.
 

purbeast0

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this thread has gone full(er) retard with the numbers now being brought up. clearly a troll thread, the op hasn't even responded since the first day.
 
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