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Svnla

Lifer
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So, nothing then. Just as I expected.

Are you serious? You did not see the posts that I made a few of my suggestions in this thread? Really?

Just say you can't find it and I will repost for you.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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Hey, don't like the consequences, then do it the LEGAL way. Funny how other nations around the world are enforcing their immigration rules/laws (see multiple links above) and cracking down yet no one is yelling..."HAAATTTTE". LOL.

Can't debate with facts, spin baby spin.... so much haaaaaaateeeeee...

Still no answer why million and million around the world have to wait in years to immigrate LEGALLY yet somehow, certain groups feel they can cut the line without any consequences.... so much hhhhhaaaaaatttttteeeee <rinse, repeat>

Always double down on spite & hatred. Always. Pretend it's something else, of course, even if you're the only one who believes it.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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Always double down on spite & hatred. Always. Pretend it's something else, of course, even if you're the only one who believes it.

Again. Apply immigration rules and laws equally for all. Period. You can yell "hate" and this and that all you want. Facts are facts.

Oh, one more thing. I am really the "undocumented" queen of England. LOL.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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Again. Apply immigration rules and laws equally for all. Period. You can yell "hate" and this and that all you want. Facts are facts.

Oh, one more thing. I am really the "undocumented" queen of England. LOL.

I wouldn't doubt you're an undocumented "queen", you certainly embrace the drama.
 

Jhhnn

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Again. Apply immigration rules and laws equally for all. Period. You can yell "hate" and this and that all you want. Facts are facts.

There is only one reasonable answer concerning illegals who've been here more than a decade, and that's amnesty. It's gone on too long & too far to have it any other way that doesn't tear the country apart.

That's just reality so you can stop being shitty about it any time you want. They got over on us? Trump got over on you worse than they ever will.
 
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Svnla

Lifer
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There is only one reasonable answer concerning illegals who've been here more than a decade, and that's amnesty. It's gone on too long & too far to have it any other way that doesn't tear the country apart.

That's just reality so you can stop being shitty about it any time you want. They got over on us? Trump got over on you worse than they ever will.

So, break the law and lay low then stay in the US for a few years then you are ok. The rest of you that are waiting for years to migrate the LEGAL way? fuck you all are idiots. Suckers!!! Rinse and repeat just as we did during the 80's.

Why even bother to have immigration rules and laws at all?
 

brycejones

Lifer
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As usual the simple minded opt for the bumper sticker solutions.

The noise around illegal immigration is really a cover for the real objective here. Trump and team want to make it harder for people they don't consider desirable to immigrate to the US legally and dramatically cut the number of legal immigration slots.

This whole shit show is just a cover for reducing the rate of growth of minority populations in a sad attempt to keep America as white as possible. Its funny some of the people who fall for the bull shit and get sucked into defending the very kind of policy that would have kept their own family members out of the country.
 

jackstar7

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I want any sovereign nation to have the right to defense their borders. This is what you quoted me 'Any sovereign nation is within their right to enforce their border policy as they see fit". How is that extreme? Did I advocate any violence or any bad upon ILLEGALS? Nope, nada, zip. You would not dare to give a straight answer but pull the .."but..but..what about shooting this and that" bull shit.

You don't get to dish out questions without answer mine first. Why it is ok for LEGALS to wait for years and years to immigrate the LEGAL way while ILLEGALS do not have to? Answer that, dumb ass.
"...how they see fit." is where it gets extreme, guy. That leaves anything open that a tyrant/dictator pleases to do, because as you say, sovereign nation.

Aww, dumbnuts, I don't think anyone should be waiting years. But DJT doesn't care to hire more judges to speed up the process.

But also, please stop calling people illegals. Or explain why you are afraid of people immigrating to our country without following our processes. I'm sure you won't dance away from this point, right?
 
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Svnla

Lifer
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"...how they see fit." is where it gets extreme, guy. That leaves anything open that a tyrant/dictator pleases to do, because as you say, sovereign nation.

Aww, dumbnuts, I don't think anyone should be waiting years. But DJT doesn't care to hire more judges to speed up the process.

But also, please stop calling people illegals. Or explain why you are afraid of people immigrating to our country without following our processes. I'm sure you won't dance away from this point, right?

As I said, don't like it? Do it the LEGAL way. Oh nooooo...too much haaaaaaattteeee. Do you see any one shoot to kill any ILLEGALS? Do you? Uh huh.

As I said, LEGALS != ILLEGALS. There is no such thing as "undocumented" immigrants. I want the rules and laws apply equally to all. Why is it too hard to understand? Why are you so afraid of everyone being treat equally?
 
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jackstar7

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As I said, don't like it? Do it the LEGAL way. Oh nooooo...too much haaaaaaattteeee.

As I said, LEGALS != ILLEGALS. There is no such thing as "undocumented" immigrants.
So you can't have a discussion, just a recitation of talking points?

Cool.
 

Svnla

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So you can't have a discussion, just a recitation of talking points?

Cool.

You, Jhhnnn, and others like you do not want a honest debate but more emotional craps and guilt jerk and more amnesty (Jhhnn said it out loud about amnesty).

See my edit before you quote.

You can't expect one group to have the short cut while everyone else is having to wait and wait. Hell, very soon, everyone else will say fuck it and sneak in too. Lay low in the US for a few years and all are ok. Who the hell would want to wait?
 
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brycejones

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Who the hell would want to wait?

You do realize the desired endgame of the Trump administration is to pretty much make everyone wait a hell of a lot longer right?

The noise over the "crisis" at the border is to get you riled up to support their real objective.
 
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jackstar7

Lifer
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You, Jhhnnn, and others like you do not want a honest debate but more emotional craps and guilt jerk and more amnesty (Jhhnn said it out loud about amnesty).

See my edit before you quote.

You can't expect one group to have the short cut while everyone else is having to wait and wait. Hell, very soon, everyone else will say fuck it and sneak in too. Lay low in the US for a few years and all are ok. Who the hell would want to wait?
You literally responded to my criticism of your lack of discourse with more talking points.

Reboot, replace the needle on the record, or do whatever it is you have to do to snap out of it.
 

Jhhnn

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So, break the law and lay low then stay in the US for a few years then you are ok. The rest of you that are waiting for years to migrate the LEGAL way? fuck you all are idiots. Suckers!!! Rinse and repeat just as we did during the 80's.

Why even bother to have immigration rules and laws at all?

Not a hater. Huh-uhh! Nor a fantasist who needs to get over themselves, either.
 

ivwshane

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Hey mods....umm, no debate, nothing but insult. Is that a violation of this forum? Just asking for a friend. As I said, let apply rules equally for all, not just a select few.


Someone get this bitch a safe space or some tissue, I think he's going to cry.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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Not a hater. Huh-uhh! Nor a fantasist who needs to get over themselves, either.

I already posted several links about numerous countries that are cracking down on ILLEGALS. How about you do the same about any country that would let ILLEGALS get off without any consequence or offer them amensty? Take your time.

Keep pulling the "hate" line. Weak sauce. So weak. It is sad that is all you have. Tst..tst..tst.
 
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Svnla

Lifer
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You literally responded to my criticism of your lack of discourse with more talking points.

Reboot, replace the needle on the record, or do whatever it is you have to do to snap out of it.

I already post a few suggestions of what to do about ILLEGALS and a few links about sovereign countries dealing with immigration problems. Scroll up and read them.
 

brycejones

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Ia few links about sovereign countries dealing with immigration problems.

Why is it America has to be "exceptional" aka we can't do what any other modern country does because it will bring about FEMA camps, communism and the end of life as we know it but suddenly when we find someone else treats people worse than us that is the behavior to model our policies on?

The modern conservative governing philosophy is to first ask "What would a dick do?" and then find a way to be more dickish.
 
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jackstar7

Lifer
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I already post a few suggestions of what to do about ILLEGALS and a few links about sovereign countries dealing with immigration problems. Scroll up and read them.
Why are we following the lead of others, rather than leading? You haven't explained why they are a problem for you.

Your posts reek of a FYGM attitude.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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Why are we following the lead of others, rather than leading? You haven't explained why they are a problem for you.

Your posts reek of a FYGM attitude.

I think svnla has hinted in the past that his family had a tough time coming over. So I think its more of a it was tough for us so everyone should be fucked over kind of attitude. Instead of making it better he wants it as hard as possible because reasons. At least that is my impression. It is a small minded view of the world more than anything.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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Why are we following the lead of others, rather than leading? You haven't explained why they are a problem for you.

Your posts reek of a FYGM attitude.

Not about follow anything. We tried a big amnesty in the 80's for several million ILLEGALS and we are planing to do another BIGGER one for 11 million ILLEGALS or more but this time, it will "work" because of reason? Do the same thing over and over again and expect different result = crazy, nut in my book.

Do you see my point yet?

Follow the rules and laws. Period. Very simple to understand. Million and million of LEGALS are doing it and will get push aside by doing so if another amnesty would happen. Why even bother to follow the rules/laws?
 
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