I live in a country that puts babies in cages

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IJTSSG

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Criminals are going to be separated from their children. That's how it works.

Good job!
 

compuwiz1

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Criminals are going to be separated from their children. That's how it works.

Good job!

That's how it works when American citizens commit crimes and are arrested too. How is that any different?
 

brycejones

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MrSquished

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This is exactly true.

The leftist media tried pushing a fake story claiming the Trump admin was putting kids in cages with a picture from 2014. When the truth came out *poof*, suddenly all the (selective) outrage was gone,and so was the story. People working for CNN, NY Times etc tweeting, pushing the story. When facts came out, and it was under the Obama admin, the excuse of being with family and distracted was to blame. Others didn't even bother to correct the errors they made. Doesn't matter, the damage was done. Fake news made to make Trump look bad. He doesn't need help to look bad. Using fake news just shows that accuracy does not matter whatsoever. Hundreds of thousands of tweets, or even more, pushing this story. How many do you think actually saw the correction? A drop in the bucked compared. They're hypocrites, and don't really care about this. If they did, there would have been the same level of outrage in 2014, when the picture actually took place, as it did last week. The editor in chief of NYT fell for this, pushed it, then blamed his family. Pathetic.

But then the leftist media is pushing Trump running a child trafficking ring, and Melania being out of the public spot light after her surgery due to her having bruises from being beaten by Trump. They really have no bounds at what they will do to make him look bad. When he easily does it himself. What it does pushing these fake ass stories, making shit up, and being hypocrites, is give his far right base ammunition to rally. Just report the damn news evenly, and let the cards fall where they may.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...mid-weekend-misleading-anti-trump-tweets.html

You got links for any of these claims? I appreciate the photo was incorrect, although the claim may be correct the photo was not. But that is the exception not the rule from the mainstream media. Mistakes are made, occasionally. It is, though, the MO for your favorite news source, fox. They do that shit on the regular. But, you know, let the cards fall where they may and all.
 

compuwiz1

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Aslyum seekers are NOT criminals you idiots.

I was reading where some had been deported multiple times. A deportee who reenters has committed a felony, you idiot. Learn the law. Just because you don't like the law and those who actually support and defend it, does not make people idiots. At some point, we are going to have to decide if we want to have a country, or not. All countries have a border. Most treat those who cross illegally worse than we do, up to prison and including execution. We are much kinder. Yet, a country without borders cannot be a country for very long. Some of you idiots seem ok with that.
 

glenn1

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Are those really the only alternatives?

Sure, we can pass new legislation greatly easing deportation rules and funding new immigration judges so they can be returned to their country of origin within hours and detention isn't needed beyond holding them briefly to see the judge. For those of Mexican origin a one business day turnaround time is probably doable in the super-majority of cases if we had the political will to do so.
 
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glenn1

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If the ILLEGALS do not like how the US is handling them, they are more than welcome to try Australia - https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/australia-immigration/480189/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28189608

Families surely can stay together there (processing centers).

Processing centers in the Aleutian Islands would work. We can leverage the existing WW2 era Army barracks and heck we could even release them on their own recognizance.
 

Moonbeam

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Like right here in the heart of the great melting pot, the San Francisco bay area, an extremely diverse and liberal mecca. In just a couple of hours I can visit the white area, the black area, the Asian area, the Mexican area, the Chinese area, and probably a few others I've forgotten (if I ever find the Irish area I'll be drunk for a month).
Pretty cool. I live in the middle of it and I can in a minute or two visit my immediate neighbors, let's see starting two houses up down and across, Filipino, Chinese, where my black neighbor moved from after putting his kid through Harvard Medican School, Chinese again, me, your Irish Italian drunk, Argintenian, Chinese Japanese and Indian across the street. My Japanese friends across the street daughter took her Mom last month to Alabama to visit the consentration camp she, the Mom was born in.
 
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Vic

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Social conservatives are, by definition, opposed to the proposition that all persons are created equal. So it should be no surprise that, with social conservatives in charge, the government is jailing babies solely because of the accident of their birth.
 
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Vic

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My, my, such a raw display of emotion. Anxiety of all sorts woven together in a mishmash of thoughts that is certain to reel in the usual suspects because it's all based in feelings.

If the post is based on the linked story, the post falls apart. Right out of the gate the story, through its subtitle, says that its about unaccompanied migrant children. Anyone that needs to should look up the word 'unaccompanied'. The story then goes on to mix in feelings with some slanted reporting. The usual bullshit.

The OP wraps it up with a picture that has been proven to not be what the proggies believe it is. Oh and if it was a bus for transporting children without the car seats? Holy shit, the outrage would have been astronomical.

I have two nuggets of advice for the OP. The first is show us how serious an issue this is to you and move out of the country that you hate so much. Really make us believe. Barring that, take in as many of these unaccompanied minor children as you can. Put that misguided bleeding heart to good use. Show us how much you truly care.

Your words are accomplishing nothing. Your feelings are shortening your life.

7 Ways Anger Is Ruining Your Health

It's beyond hypocritical for you, or any of the people who liked your post, to accuse or demean anyone for being angry or outraged, because those 2 things are literally all that you ever do here.
 

JSt0rm

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Well mercifully no progressives have suggested killing them so far, so that's a start.

im sure with 10s of thousands of families being ripped apart the trump team will end up getting a few of them killed.
 

JSt0rm

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It's beyond hypocritical for you, or any of the people who liked your post, to accuse or demean anyone for being angry or outraged, because that is literally all that you ever do here.

only bommer can have a safe space!
 

glenn1

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Social conservatives are, by definition, opposed to the proposition that all persons are created equal. So it should be no surprise that, with social conservatives in charge, the government is jailing babies solely because of the accident of their birth.

Equal in rights; not natural gifts, talents, intelligence, ambition, or other factors which drive success. Which is also irrelevant to the question of whether illegal aliens should have unfettered access to our country and to ignore our immigration laws.
 

Vic

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Equal in rights; not natural gifts, talents, intelligence, ambition, or other factors which drive success. Which is also irrelevant to the question of whether illegal aliens should have unfettered access to our country and to ignore our immigration laws.

I am saying that social conservatives are entirely against equality in rights for all persons, whether they are illegal aliens or natural born American citizens.
I've noticed that it's a common straw man of yours to misconstrue the liberal ideal of equal opportunity as a desire for equal outcome. Neither I, nor any liberal I know, want equal outcomes, or believes that people are born equal in natural gifts, talents, intelligence, ambition, etc. What we want are equal rights and equal opportunity. Equal protection of the laws as guaranteed in the 14th amendment of the Constitution. Which conservatives oppose.
 
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UNCjigga

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Sure, we can pass new legislation greatly easing deportation rules and funding new immigration judges so they can be returned to their country of origin within hours and detention isn't needed beyond holding them briefly to see the judge. For those of Mexican origin a one business day turnaround time is probably doable in the super-majority of cases if we had the political will to do so.
Obama proposed setting up asylum processing centers in Mexico and Central America. Where was the political will to get that done?
 
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glenn1

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I am saying that social conservatives are entirely against equality in rights for all persons, whether they are illegal aliens or natural born American citizens.
I've noticed that it's a common straw man of yours to misconstrue the liberal ideal of equal opportunity as a desire for equal outcome. Neither I, nor any liberal I know, want equal outcomes, or believes people are born with natural gifts, talents, intelligence, ambition, etc. What they want are equal rights and equal opportunity. Which conservatives oppose.

That's because some rights are only applicable to citizens and immigrants don't have some of the same protections citizens do (see Harisiades v. Shaughnessy for example). And again this has very little to do with the very established principle that nations have the rights to control their borders and immigration. If you fear having your kids separated from you for being an illegal alien there's a very simple preventive measure for that.
 

JSt0rm

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Equal in rights; not natural gifts, talents, intelligence, ambition, or other factors which drive success. Which is also irrelevant to the question of whether illegal aliens should have unfettered access to our country and to ignore our immigration laws.

You should look up socio-economics.
 
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glenn1

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Obama proposed setting up asylum processing centers in Mexico and Central America. Where was the political will to get that done?

I'd be fine with that. I remember the objections at the time centered around people gaming the system but those problems can be overcome.
 
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