I love computer illiterate people

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Platypus
Are you literate in every subject out there?

I'm pretty fluent with all the tools I use. I don't think having basic familiarity with the tools you frequently use is too much to ask for.

Do you own a car?

Yup, and I'm pretty familiar with it.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: OCguy
This is why I love ATOT. You never know what way the thread is going to go for the OP. :laugh:

QFT. I bet he didn't see this one coming.

 

[adairusmc]

My sister is that way.

I got her to believe that computer viruses would make her sterile by ramping up the RF output on her wireless card. Kept her letting her AV subscription expire.

 

[SuperSix]

Originally posted by: ComputerWizKid
I love them too keeps me in business as I am constantly getting computers in with the works of problems (Spyware Viruses Pr0n and other Nasty Stuff)

Your signature is ironic. You HATE Windows - but make a living off of spyware and virii.

 

[drum]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: OCguy
This is why I love ATOT. You never know what way the thread is going to go for the OP. :laugh:

QFT. I bet he didn't see this one coming.

No matter the post, most of the people in the thread will find a way to make the OP look stupid.

 

[BrownTown]

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Platypus
Are you literate in every subject out there?

I'm pretty fluent with all the tools I use. I don't think having basic familiarity with the tools you frequently use is too much to ask for.

Do you own a car?

This is usually the best one to get a computer nerd all shook up. Alot of people will think you are a car newb for paying someone to do something as simple as changing your oil (just like most computer nerds will think you are an idiot for paying someone to replace your RAM).

There is this thing humans invented thousands of years ago called "division of labor", which is the reason that we have been able to develop so far. The point is that people don't have to be experts in EVERYTHING, only in ONE thing. You are an expert in your field and can make money doing that and then use that money to pay an expert in another field to help you out there. For example I spent four years gonig to college learning about computers, so yeah I know alot about them, but I still couldn't tell you where the hell the oil filter in my car is because I pay someone else to replace it for me.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Platypus
Are you literate in every subject out there?

I'm pretty fluent with all the tools I use. I don't think having basic familiarity with the tools you frequently use is too much to ask for.

Do you own a car?

Yup, and I'm pretty familiar with it.

Good for you, now think of your average joe/jane. They'll have no clue what goes on inside of a car except for a few big name parts(engine, transmission). Kind of like the parts of a computer, most people can name some important things, but they can't tell you what it does or how it does it.

It's no different then a mechanic ripping you a new one for not knowing the ins and outs of your car.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: BrownTown

This is usually the best one to get a computer nerd all shook up. Alot of people will think you are a car newb for paying someone to do something as simple as changing your oil (just like most computer nerds will think you are an idiot for paying someone to replace your RAM).

There is this thing humans invented thousands of years ago called "division of labor", which is the reason that we have been able to develop so far. The point is that people don't have to be experts in EVERYTHING, only in ONE thing. You are an expert in your field and can make money doing that and then use that money to pay an expert in another field to help you out there. For example I spent four years gonig to college learning about computers, so yeah I know alot about them, but I still couldn't tell you where the hell the oil filter in my car is because I pay someone else to replace it for me.

There's nothing wrong with paying someone to do work for you, but you should still understand the basic operation of all your tools.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: BrownTown

This is usually the best one to get a computer nerd all shook up. Alot of people will think you are a car newb for paying someone to do something as simple as changing your oil (just like most computer nerds will think you are an idiot for paying someone to replace your RAM).

There is this thing humans invented thousands of years ago called "division of labor", which is the reason that we have been able to develop so far. The point is that people don't have to be experts in EVERYTHING, only in ONE thing. You are an expert in your field and can make money doing that and then use that money to pay an expert in another field to help you out there. For example I spent four years gonig to college learning about computers, so yeah I know alot about them, but I still couldn't tell you where the hell the oil filter in my car is because I pay someone else to replace it for me.

There's nothing wrong with paying someone to do work for you, but you should still understand the basic operation of all your tools.

Knowing how to use a computer is totally different then how to ugprade/buy a new computer.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Crusty

It's no different then a mechanic ripping you a new one for not knowing the ins and outs of your car.

One should know how the internal combustion engine works, and the improvements that have been made over the years. The Windows story above is the same as someone wanting a new car with a carburetor that's better than what's in their 2005 Corolla.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Crusty

Knowing how to use a computer is totally different then how to ugprade/buy a new computer.

Not really. If you don't know the basic operation, how the different parts work, and basic troubleshooting you don't know how to use a computer.

 

[aE0n]

Sounds to me like they're looking for a computer with Windows, from 2007, 2008, or 2009. Not making up versions that don't exists. Like a used car from 07, 08 or 09.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Crusty

Knowing how to use a computer is totally different then how to ugprade/buy a new computer.

Not really. If you don't know the basic operation, how the different parts work, and basic troubleshooting you don't know how to use a computer.

Tell that my grandparents who used a computer for years without knowing a damn thing about how it does it.

They did all of their banking/bills online as well as the occasional email all without knowing the name of a part other than mouse, keyboard, and monitor.

Same thing for driving a car, you better damn well know which pedal is gas/brake and how to operate your dashboard, but that has nothing to do with what's running the car.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Platypus
Are you literate in every subject out there?

I see what you're getting at, but there's really no excuse not to understand a few computer basics. Technology is an integral part of our modern world, if any interested 10 year old can know their basics, any adult with an interest in functioning in our world should as well. I think it's fashionable to be aloof about computers; people wouldn't want to be nerds, now would they... being dumb is what's in, has been for a while and will probably continue to be :roll:

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
My favorite is our "Administrative Assistant" who has a BS in IS Administration. She asked where the best place is to get more "memory" for her friends computer since he is running out of space to put his music. :sigh;

Hard drive IS memory. It is bulk static memory on an aluminum or glass platter.
It is not random access memory or dynamic memory like those DIMMs directly attached to your mainboard.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Crusty

Tell that my grandparents who used a computer for years without knowing a damn thing about how it does it.

They did all of their banking/bills online as well as the occasional email all without knowing the name of a part other than mouse, keyboard, and monitor.

Same thing for driving a car, you better damn well know which pedal is gas/brake and how to operate your dashboard, but that has nothing to do with what's running the car.

What's red "oil" light lit up on the dash mean? I don't know, I'm just a car operator. I'll drive it for a couple of weeks until I get the time to take it in the shop....

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Platypus
Are you literate in every subject out there?

I'm pretty fluent with all the tools I use. I don't think having basic familiarity with the tools you frequently use is too much to ask for.

Do you own a car?

Yup, and I'm pretty familiar with it.

Good for you, now think of your average joe/jane. They'll have no clue what goes on inside of a car except for a few big name parts(engine, transmission). Kind of like the parts of a computer, most people can name some important things, but they can't tell you what it does or how it does it.

It's no different then a mechanic ripping you a new one for not knowing the ins and outs of your car.

Don't forget to replace your Hallogen fluid ever 3 years or 45,000 miles.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Kelemvor
I subscribe to some Freecycle websites for my area and saw this email come in today...

Greetings all, I am looking for a computer, that is in good condition, with windows 2007, 2008, or 2009. If anyone has one that they would like to part with please let me know. Thanks, Sheron

I was confused so I emailed the person back with:

FYI, I don't have a PC to get rid of but there's no such thing as Windows 2007, 2008, or 2009. Not really sure what you're asking for...

And I got a reply of:

thanks for correcting me. I guess you could say, I am looking for a newer hard drive. I have had mine since 2003, and I am quite sure there something newer than that. I am not really computer literate, sorry.

*sigh*

you mean to tell us that you didn't immediately offer her a hard drive?

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Crusty

Knowing how to use a computer is totally different then how to ugprade/buy a new computer.

Not really. If you don't know the basic operation, how the different parts work, and basic troubleshooting you don't know how to use a computer.

Why should one know how to troubleshoot, and the different parts? All people need to know is how to go about the task they have the computer for .. ie checking email, browsing the web, etc. Computers (especially hardware) is very complicated for the average person and things (software/hardware) change so rapidly that it's difficult to keep up if you don't NEED to know. I realize AT is filled with computer geeks and those who love to stay on top of things, but to expect everyone who uses one to understand all its parts and troubleshoot is a bit absurd. How long have we, as a people, had cars, and most people still can't tell you how they work, or even begin to troubleshoot.

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Crusty

Knowing how to use a computer is totally different then how to ugprade/buy a new computer.

Not really. If you don't know the basic operation, how the different parts work, and basic troubleshooting you don't know how to use a computer.

Why should one know how to troubleshoot, and the different parts? All people need to know is how to go about the task they have the computer for .. ie checking email, browsing the web, etc. Computers (especially hardware) is very complicated for the average person and things (software/hardware) change so rapidly that it's difficult to keep up if you don't NEED to know. I realize AT is filled with computer geeks and those who love to stay on top of things, but to expect everyone who uses one to understand all its parts and troubleshoot is a bit absurd. How long have we, as a people, had cars, and most people still can't tell you how they work, or even begin to troubleshoot.

"well it made a noise and I think a light came on, but I don't remember which one - then it died on me."

I've heard this both for computers and cars I haveno problem with computer illiterate people. I have problems with the people who don't know anything but will go ahead and talk and act like they do making my job harder

I also giggle at the people who say they're not very computer illiterate. It's funny to me... except for the one dude who actually meant it that way and knew a lot about computers. That was just weird.

 

[Blunc]

that sounds kinda strange considering when I was running a tune-up shop everyone that brought their car in told me it needed a carb rebuild, is most cases the problem was a bad spark plug.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Platypus
Are you literate in every subject out there?

I'm pretty fluent with all the tools I use. I don't think having basic familiarity with the tools you frequently use is too much to ask for.

Do you own a car?

Yup, and I'm pretty familiar with it.

Good for you, now think of your average joe/jane. They'll have no clue what goes on inside of a car except for a few big name parts(engine, transmission). Kind of like the parts of a computer, most people can name some important things, but they can't tell you what it does or how it does it.

It's no different then a mechanic ripping you a new one for not knowing the ins and outs of your car.

i had 3 mechanics give me a hard time for a couple days when i took my truck in for a brake job. the previous brake job was done by me and i mixed up the rear pads. i did them at midnite while drinking, which im sure had something to do with it. ive done many brake jobs on many cars and trucks, it wasnt a mistake im used to making. but at my age, id rather pay someone else to do it than actually do it myself anymore.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: Crusty

Tell that my grandparents who used a computer for years without knowing a damn thing about how it does it.

They did all of their banking/bills online as well as the occasional email all without knowing the name of a part other than mouse, keyboard, and monitor.

Same thing for driving a car, you better damn well know which pedal is gas/brake and how to operate your dashboard, but that has nothing to do with what's running the car.

What's red "oil" light lit up on the dash mean? I don't know, I'm just a car operator. I'll drive it for a couple of weeks until I get the time to take it in the shop....

not the same. this would be the equivalent to asking a dealer for a new car, preferably with a v5, c12 or a r21. none of those are engines, but you really dont need to know the specifics of the engine to use or maintain that car. oil goes into an inline 4cyl just as easily as a v12, but they are vastly different engines.


i guess i deal with people that dont understand everything about computers but use them daily in the course of their jobs more than most people. my "office manager" can work circles around me in quickbooks and excel, but god forbid she realize the monitor is not the actual computer. i gave up on explaining the difference between local and network hard drives years ago.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

i guess i deal with people that dont understand everything about computers but use them daily in the course of their jobs more than most people. my "office manager" can work circles around me in quickbooks and excel, but god forbid she realize the monitor is not the actual computer. i gave up on explaining the difference between local and network hard drives years ago.

I expect more from people, and I think more SHOULD be expected from them. When I was surveying, I knew everything about the instruments I used. I wasn't qualified to do a complete breakdown/rebuild, but I could perform calibration and maintenance, and it was expected of me. People don't/won't do it because it's not expected. The bar needs to be raised, and people need to be familiar with the tools they use.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Some clients I have serviced systems for, refer to the entire computer case and all its contents as the CPU.