I make over $100k/yr; credit cards are BS

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ponyo

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Also income tax, sales tax, utilities, gasoline, insurance, registration fees, etc... Higher labor costs, means food is going to be higher. And you're comparing an one bedroom apt to having roommates.

All of that should be negligible. Having roommates is a major con but necessary one. So I fail to see how having higher income is worse than lower income. It's like saying Mexicans shouldn't move to the US for higher paying jobs because cost of living in the US is higher than in Mexico.

I feel so inadequate my highest cc limit is only $25k and I don't like fruit loops, more of a granola guy.

$25k is only mini-barrier. All it takes is one issuer to give you higher than $25k limit and the rest will follow like lemmings. Banks don't want to lose your business. Soon you'll have $30k+ and $40k+ limits. $50k and above is tough as it's another barrier. To cross that barrier you need to provide the bank with documented income and proof of assets.
 

Squisher

Lifer
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A few years ago the wife needed a steep increase to our credit limit. She might have charged as much as $15K a month that got paid back to her from her employer. I called them up and they said they needed proof of income, so I had to send them a copy of our W2s for a couple of years. They bumped me up to $25K and have slowly increased that since to $33K even though we seldom charge more than $5K in any one month these days. Now, the two other cards I use saw that and matched that cards credit limit even though I never asked for it.
 

RichieZ

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funny I have more than 100K in revolving credit lines, typical utilization is in the low single digits. they must think you are a risk
 

Capt Caveman

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All of that should be negligible. Having roommates is a major con but necessary one. So I fail to see how having higher income is worse than lower income. It's like saying Mexicans shouldn't move to the US for higher paying jobs because cost of living in the US is higher than in Mexico.

It's called comparing apples vs apples. And higher income taxes, higher sales taxes, higher food/living costs are negligible? Not sure if serious.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
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funny I have more than 100K in revolving credit lines, typical utilization is in the low single digits. they must think you are a risk

i just got my mint free credit report yesterday and saw i'm at about 75$k right now. i honestly had no clue it was that high, i figured it was about 25$k total.

i never put more than about 500$-1500$ on those things a month. whatever's giving the best rewards.
 

magomago

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But if you rent with multiple people, your portion of rent can't be much more than renting single in other parts of the country. For example, it costs around $1,200 a month to rent a decent 1bd apartment in Atlanta suburb. I can't imagine it cost much more than $1,200-$1,500 a month in SF or West Coast for a place if you live with multiple roommates. Sure you have to live with roommates but housing costs should be comparable. Other than housing, I really don't see the big difference. Cars cost the same. I think if you're young and single, you would be foolish not to move to the West Coast and take advantage of the higher salary. You can save much more on higher income.

Also income tax, sales tax, utilities, gasoline, insurance, registration fees, etc... Higher labor costs, means food is going to be higher. And you're comparing an one bedroom apt to having roommates.

Yup - if I'm willing to get a roommate, then that Atlanta Suburb drops into the $600-700 dollar range.
 

ponyo

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It's called comparing apples vs apples. And higher income taxes, higher sales taxes, higher food/living costs are negligible? Not sure if serious.

Higher income tax? So let's compare. I'll use Atlanta and compare it to San Francisco. You're going to pay the same Federal rate. The State income tax is the only difference and rate is 3.3% higher in California so that's extra $728 a year on $100k. Peanuts. San Francisco sales tax is 8.75%. Atlanta is 8%. Again, the difference is peanut. Higher food cost? Really? You're again talking peanuts. Some food items might be slightly more expensive. Some things cheaper. I bet you cost of Froot Loops is comparable. The only thing everyone can agree is substantially higher in San Fran compared to Atlanta is housing. But like I suggested, if you have roommates, you can reduce that cost to something similar to renting single one bedroom apartment in Atlanta.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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Higher income tax? So let's compare. I'll use Atlanta and compare it to San Francisco. You're going to pay the same Federal rate. The State income tax is the only difference and rate is 3.3% higher in California so that's extra $728 a year on $100k. Peanuts. San Francisco sales tax is 8.75%. Atlanta is 8%. Again, the difference is peanut. Higher food cost? Really? You're again talking peanuts. Some food items might be slightly more expensive. Some things cheaper. I bet you cost of Froot Loops is comparable. The only thing everyone can agree is substantially higher in San Fran compared to Atlanta is housing. But like I suggested, if you have roommates, you can reduce that cost to something similar to renting single one bedroom apartment in Atlanta.

Yawn. Add local county taxes, property taxes, higher insurance rates, higher utility costs/gasoline, food(land isn't cheap nor is labor), dining, registration fees, etc....

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&city1=Atlanta,+GA&country2=United+States&city2=San+Francisco,+CA

Indices Difference
Consumer Prices in San Francisco, CA are 28.38% higher than in Atlanta, GA
Consumer Prices Including Rent in San Francisco, CA are 86.99% higher than in Atlanta, GA
Rent Prices in San Francisco, CA are 206.18% higher than in Atlanta, GA
Restaurant Prices in San Francisco, CA are 32.67% higher than in Atlanta, GA
Groceries Prices in San Francisco, CA are 38.89% higher than in Atlanta, GA
Local Purchasing Power in San Francisco, CA is 29.86% lower than in Atlanta, GA

You would need around 7,853.62$ in San Francisco, CA to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,200.00$ in Atlanta, GA (assuming you rent in both cities). This calculation uses our Cost of Living Plus Rent Index to compare cost of living. This assumes net earnings (after income tax). You can change the amount in this calculation.
 

Zeze

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Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
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Everything/everyone has a price ...

I'm picturing you pulling an Instant Pot out of a box behind a dark alley...pssst....hey kid, wanna cook a pork roast in half the time as your momma's slow cooker? I get these puppies from my dealer on Slickdeals...
 
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RossMAN

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I'm picturing you pulling an Instant Pot out of a box behind a dark alley...pssst....hey kid, wanna cook a pork roast in half the time as your momma's slow cooker? I get these puppies from my dealer on Slickdeals...

LOL you know me so well, very well.

Edit: Capt Caveman liked your post, just made my day
 
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