I miss the old days of CRT's

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rbk123

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I miss rotary phones.

Good grief, it's too early in the morning to get my fill of dumb.
 

exar333

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This thread probably made some sense 5 years ago. There are now some decent options for fast-paced LCDs now with LB, 144hz+, etc. I don't miss lugging those CRTs around...
 

reallyscrued

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This thread is perfect example of why plasma died.

No one cares about picture quality. They care about quiet, bright, and thin.
 

NutBucket

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The market dictated plasma's death since LCDs got dirt cheap while plasma did not.

We know most people don't care about PQ. I doubt most people could tell whether they're watching a BR or DVD.
 

taltamir

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Well I'm not sure you need Quantum Dots or whatever new fangled fancy term they want to call it for a tv that is only 32" in size.
Quantum dot is a physics term. specifically dealing with quantum physics.
It is a method of generating light from electricity.

It has all the benefits of OLED while being much cheaper, lighter, less power slightly less power consuming, and more reliable.

The reason you need quantum dot is because it is:
1. much cheaper than OLED
2. much much smaller/thinner/lighter than LCD
3. requires much less power than LCD and a little less power than OLED.
4. has much much better image quality than LCD (about equal to OLED).
5. is more reliable than OLED

EDIT: I was basing the above on some tech demos I saw of quantum dot self lighting cells displays (similar to oled). the actual displays coming out in 2016 to the market are just LCD displays with quantum dot backlight. so my post above is wrong
 
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taltamir

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Quantum dot still has a backlight. It isn't anywhere near OLED for black levels, which is by far the most important part of the picture quality equation.
... ok, so after looking it up some

while the initial tech demonstrations which I have seen of quantum dot displays had self lighting cells like OLED (and thus perfect blacks and supreme thinness). the first commercially available TVs coming out in 2016 calling themselves quantum dots are actually not "self lighting quantum dot cells" (same implementation as OLED), but rather "LCD cell with a quantum dot backlight".

Technically you could use an OLED backlight for an LCD too if you really wanted to.
I don't know if it is just a case of them wanting to rush quantum dot to the market and thus using such a simple implementation or if there are some other limitations involved.

My apologies for the earlier misinformation
 
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Drako

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I thought that quantum dot LCD was Samsung's effort to buy some time to get their OLEDs working?
 

NAC4EV

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If you say that you miss your crt then you might as well say "you miss black and white tv as well".
I love my 4K "Thank You Jesus".
 
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truckerCLOCK

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I miss plasma more than CRT. I am running a plasma for living room TV, because most similarly priced LCDs suck in comparison, even today. You can get 43" upper mid-end 4K TVs, but they aren't that cheap.

BTW, I owned a 34" 16:9 widescreen CRT in 2001. When it got delivered, one of the delivery guys couldn't lift his side of it. I had to move it with the other delivery guy. The TV was something like 175-200 lbs.

This was pre-HDMI though, so my HD image was through component video. Worked well with my cable box and later on, my Xbox 360. Having zero input lag was great.

I will be crying when/if my plasmas die. It will be a sad sad day
 

bigboxes

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If you say that you miss your crt then you might as well say "you miss black and white tv as well".
I love my 4K "Thank You Jesus".

CRT is the technology. 4K is just the resolution. No need to piss in anyone's Cheerios.
 

bigboxes

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This thread is perfect example of why plasma died.

No one cares about picture quality. They care about quiet, bright, and thin.

Really sad that there was no room for quality. My mother-in-law bought a Kuro in 2006 and it's still chugging along today. I've got a Panny VT50 that just hit three years old. I'm waiting for OLED to come down in price. No hurry as 4K content is just not there.
 

swilli89

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Me too, if my 55" Panasonic plasma ever dies i will be very unhappy.

Yes.. I'm tempted to sell my Samsung 64" F8500 Plasma due to life stuff and its insane resale value but.. then I have nights like this recent Sunday evening and watching Game of Thrones in 1080p is just SO good looking on my set that I can't bring myself to do it until I see OLEDs at ~$2,000 for a 60" set.
 

Rifter

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Yes.. I'm tempted to sell my Samsung 64" F8500 Plasma due to life stuff and its insane resale value but.. then I have nights like this recent Sunday evening and watching Game of Thrones in 1080p is just SO good looking on my set that I can't bring myself to do it until I see OLEDs at ~$2,000 for a 60" set.

Agreed, i spent just under 3k on my panny, im not going to buy another TV untill i can get a 60-70" with the same image quality for under 3k. My panny better make it that long lol.
 

poofyhairguy

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Agreed. It blows my mind when I go to people's houses and see their 50' LED watching DVDs. Its just INSANE!

The worst is watching 4:3 DVDs and they force it to stretch to 16:9. I once did the dishes at a friend's house (his dishes) to avoid watching a TV show like that.
 
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The worst is watching 4:3 DVDs and they force it to stretch to 16:9. I once did the dishes at a friend's house (his dishes) to avoid watching a TV show like that.

I'd stretch 4:3 to 16:9 too if you'd come to my house and wash my dishes. Smart man!
 
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