i moved to the SF bay area two weeks ago and i must say...

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zinfamous

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The wall to the tiger pen was seven feet shorter than the national minimum for such an animal, hence the lawsuit they won.

that, and it wasn't the first time a Tiger had escaped that pen, the zoo ignoring citations and never did anything about it....for 20 years.


I'm all for idiots who are idiots around animals getting eaten, or whatever, but there is no excuse for that kind of shit happening at a zoo. (the animal escaping how it did).

I wish the tiger didn't have to be euthenized, though. should have been sent off to some protected, open range enclosure in some semi-wild park and given a harem of lady tigers so that it could live away it's life in splendor
 

zinfamous

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Every 'old' city has great food. I lived in Alemeda and that was close enough for me. I've always wondered about the people who like to live in huge cities. Not the folks who were born there but, the ones who seek out the extreme urban environment. My idea of diversity is satisfied just fine with < 30,000 people. Too bad I haven't found the place yet.

SF is great, but I much prefer living across the bay. hell, many of the locals tend to prefer the east bay food scene over the SF one. I certainly don't disagree.


after 5 years in Chicago, I'm done with the full-on urban thing. I love the big cities, I love being near them, but I don't want to be in one day-in, day-out.
 

sandorski

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Every 'old' city has great food. I lived in Alemeda and that was close enough for me. I've always wondered about the people who like to live in huge cities. Not the folks who were born there but, the ones who seek out the extreme urban environment. My idea of diversity is satisfied just fine with < 30,000 people. Too bad I haven't found the place yet.

Where are the nuclear wessels?
 

zinfamous

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You know what I mean. No place on earth has the diversity of people, food, and nature that LA area has.

lol.

NYC. easily more diverse. Both have excellent food culture, no doubt--but you're going to find much more of the elite dining in NYC, and plenty of awesome hole-in-the wall places as well.

LA is certainly no joke, but nothing tops NYC. as far as food goes--nothing tops Paris, probably. Maybe Madrid...
 

Capt Caveman

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I have

There is no place like LA area in the world.

Visiting is different than living in a place. LA is cool but not the best area.

Oakland or Richmond > Tenderloin anyday. I've gone to the Tenderloin plenty of times. There are a handful of shady clubs and while I do feel a bit scared walking through with 2 cameras and all my clubbing photo gear, it's never really bad in general.

Some great cheap eats in and on the outskirts of the Tenderloin. Plus, skimmilk can find a hooker there and finally get laid. Kind of funny how he doesn't like gays. You'd think someone who's been rejected by so many would feel a connection and want to befriend them.

Every 'old' city has great food. I lived in Alemeda and that was close enough for me. I've always wondered about the people who like to live in huge cities. Not the folks who were born there but, the ones who seek out the extreme urban environment. My idea of diversity is satisfied just fine with < 30,000 people. Too bad I haven't found the place yet.

< 30,000 and you're talking about a small town, not a city.
 
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SF and the Bay area might be my favorite major city in the US. NYC is another fun city, but SF has a much more active (people walk, run, bike, etc a lot of places in addition to at most a few hours drive to mountains, wine country, beaches, etc) than NYC. LA sucks. So many people, dirty, and too wrapped up in itself. I have not been to Seattle though, and I think that might stand up to SF from a cultural viewpoint. SF weather might trump all though.

Check out a pizza place called "Lanesplitters" (IIRC that's the name), and also a place that's in Saucalito called Fish resturant (it's on a pier) for lunch. Great food there as long with Thomas Keller's (head chef or owner of The French Laundry) resturant in Napa.
 

SP33Demon

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SF is amazing. Highly diverse (50&#37; Asian), unique Mediterranean climate, great food, cutting edge technology + easy to find a job, laid back, pedestrian/bike friendly, and full of history. The only thing that sucks is the cost of living.
 

MikeMike

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SF and the Bay area might be my favorite major city in the US. NYC is another fun city, but SF has a much more active (people walk, run, bike, etc a lot of places in addition to at most a few hours drive to mountains, wine country, beaches, etc) than NYC. LA sucks. So many people, dirty, and too wrapped up in itself. I have not been to Seattle though, and I think that might stand up to SF from a cultural viewpoint. SF weather might trump all though.

Check out a pizza place called "Lanesplitters" (IIRC that's the name), and also a place that's in Saucalito called Fish resturant (it's on a pier) for lunch. Great food there as long with Thomas Keller's (head chef or owner of The French Laundry) resturant in Napa.

That is definitely the name of the pizza place. Also, if you are ever in the Mission District, check out Gracious Madre for some AMAZING, Organic, Vegetarian Mexican food...

I had so much good food while i was there...
 

JS80

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lol.

NYC. easily more diverse. Both have excellent food culture, no doubt--but you're going to find much more of the elite dining in NYC, and plenty of awesome hole-in-the wall places as well.

LA is certainly no joke, but nothing tops NYC. as far as food goes--nothing tops Paris, probably. Maybe Madrid...

NYC and LA are neck and neck IMO but it's the weather and smell that makes me favor LA over it.
 

Taejin

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I love it here. Lots of diversity, so much good food and things to do. To me, this city has a lot of flavor and edge. It has everything that I want in a city but could do without the gheys.

maybe the city has a lot of flavor and edge because of teh gheys

idk just throwing it out there
 

bl4ckfl4g

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I go to SF for a few days every couple weeks for work. I love it. Food is ridiculous. I love staying at the hotel and walking a few blocks to work. You can't walk anywhere here in Phoenix.

It is a great city.
 

oogabooga

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I go to SF for a few days every couple weeks for work. I love it. Food is ridiculous. I love staying at the hotel and walking a few blocks to work. You can't walk anywhere here in Phoenix.

It is a great city.

Is it cause you'd melt?
 
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