I must have unconsciously been working on figuring out why the right wing has lost it's mind over Obama

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
so wait... the premise of your own psychotic rant is that everyone is insane and angry that Obama is sane?

profound. :roll:

Speaking of taking today's medicine... have you? I guess the good news is that you did make me laugh. Thank you for that.

Not everybody, you stupid fuck, just self hating assholes like you.

wow...such control of your own self hate...what a role model you are.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Fell upon this tonight while wondering around on the net:

Fr. John A. Sanford, Episcopal priest and Jungian analyst, interprets Jesus' teachings from a Jungian perspective in his 1970 book The Kingdom Within. In it[10] he associates being a Pharisee with identifying with our mask or persona. He interprets the Devil or temptation to sin as "the inner adversary", the saying "love your enemies" as the dictate to discover and remove our projections from others, and advocates Jesus as the exemplar of human wholeness, uniting body, soul, spirit, sexuality, eros, and meaning through love.

and yet you call people stupid fucks? hmmmm, something doesn't sit right there...

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Fell upon this tonight while wondering around on the net:

Fr. John A. Sanford, Episcopal priest and Jungian analyst, interprets Jesus' teachings from a Jungian perspective in his 1970 book The Kingdom Within. In it[10] he associates being a Pharisee with identifying with our mask or persona. He interprets the Devil or temptation to sin as "the inner adversary", the saying "love your enemies" as the dictate to discover and remove our projections from others, and advocates Jesus as the exemplar of human wholeness, uniting body, soul, spirit, sexuality, eros, and meaning through love.

and yet you call people stupid fucks? hmmmm, something doesn't sit right there...

Well who is to blame for that. Isn't this about the third time I have tried to explain this to you, but because I love you so much I will try again. You are very intelligent and you, this time, will understand, I'm sure. You are also very kind and sympathetic to the down trodden, and you are trying to protect someone you thought was meanly attacked. I love you for that. I, for reasons I don't understand, been the same was since a small child. I have always tried to protect the weak and stick up for those who can't stick up for themselves.

And it is for that reason that I am deeply troubled that the right wing seems to be losing their minds and was a problem I seemed to have been working on, subconsciously, if it gets TLC off my back, apparently for quite some time, and the solution to which, like a bursting bubble, came suddenly to me as an epiphany, while doing the dishes and which consisted exactly of this:

I know that the right suffers from repression, the result of a reliance on authoritarian control, and that they are patriarchal, relying on force like the police and the military to maintain discipline and societal control.

Well, you should be able to guess what is going to happen when some leftest mother takes over control. We are about to go to hell in a hand basket. Everything repressed is about to surface, because a girlie man brings love and understanding instead of an iron hand.

And so you see the paradox. If you are nice to people who suppress murderous rage they will in no time at all try to kill you. That's what happens when repression is released. It happened in the Soviet Union and in South Africa too and it will happen in China and big time in North Korea too, some day. And it's happening here, right now, before your very eyes.

The repressed require being put down intimidated and threatened, especially with humiliation and loss of face in a group to keep the lid on their repression and they want that more than anything.

They are terrified of being loved and seek and hunger for hate. That is why in my first post I said:

"Your father is a syphilitic pimp, your mother is a whore. You have the brains of a donkey and you smell like shit. On the day you were born truth died and got stuffed up your ass, your coat has holes in the elbows, and your hair is falling out. Your ass is the size of an elephant, and your testicles though tiny are ten times the size of your brain. You are an idiot extraordinaire. You look into the left eye of your neighbor's wife and you have pimples on your nose. You are the worst piece of shit the world has ever seen."

This you see is what the folk on the right long to hear. They demand and crave being treated like subservient shit by some great authoritarian god like me. They lust and long for somebody to fight them they can justifiably trample under their feet. They go nuts when people love them and treat them well. So I stepped up to the plate to fulfill that duty. Obama is just too naive and lacking of understanding to to supply them with what will make them feel better. And if you are any indication, I think I did a fair job.

So now my dear and kind imbecile, you perhaps understand this time why, when presented with a person who attacked me as a sign his returning mental health, why I called him a stupid fuck. It was just an effort by me to continue his therapy as an act of love. Had you been a bit brighter and gotten the picture back then, you would have jumped at the chance to throw yourself under the bus and insult him too.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Fell upon this tonight while wondering around on the net:

Fr. John A. Sanford, Episcopal priest and Jungian analyst, interprets Jesus' teachings from a Jungian perspective in his 1970 book The Kingdom Within. In it[10] he associates being a Pharisee with identifying with our mask or persona. He interprets the Devil or temptation to sin as "the inner adversary", the saying "love your enemies" as the dictate to discover and remove our projections from others, and advocates Jesus as the exemplar of human wholeness, uniting body, soul, spirit, sexuality, eros, and meaning through love.

and yet you call people stupid fucks? hmmmm, something doesn't sit right there...

Words are just a bunch of letters put together generally to convey a thought. The context within which these words appear give meaning to them. Sometimes it is not immediately evident what the context is but usually if one tries to determine that a few things happen. The most important is that communication of the thought proffered occurs and then any subsequent communication is understood in the context of the main body.
Moonbeam was trying to indicate that Conservatives were up in arms cuz Obama was being nice to them. So he said what he felt was needed to sate the need to have someone be mean to them.. 'His medicine'. His continuing comments were funny if seen as intended, in context. Actually, the entire bit he gave us is funny. But, there are subtle undertones too. IF one reads and understands what is written.
Don't take offense when no mal intent accompanied the words issued...

 

[Ihey8neocons]

Obama nedds at least 4 terms to straighten out the mess the neocons have made.

Anyone who disagrees with him is clearly a racist.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Don't take offense when no mal intent accompanied the words issued...

I would imagine, about this time, that Corn, especially, if he hasn't dropped off the face of the earth, is quite upset that I have lavished all this love on the right with none so far for the left. Well, all I can say is that us old time players of WOW who are 226 in first aid have been carefully schooled and tested in the art of triage and that we treat those first who are the most seriously sick.

All this similarly applied, of course, when big bad authoritarian, Daddy Bush, came to town. The left went nuts when they knew we were in for up to eight years of vicious beatings.

 

[Ihey8neocons]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Don't take offense when no mal intent accompanied the words issued...

I would imagine, about this time, that Corn, especially, if he hasn't dropped off the face of the earth, is quite upset that I have lavished all this love on the right with none so far for the left. Well, all I can say is that us old time players of WOW who are 226 in first aid have been carefully schooled and tested in the art of triage and that we treat those first who are the most seriously sick.

All this similarly applied, of course, when big bad authoritarian, Daddy Bush, came to town. The left went nuts when they knew we were in for up to eight years of vicious beatings.

I have no clue what you said but I'm digging it since we both hate Bush.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
...
So now my dear and kind imbecile, you perhaps understand this time why, when presented with a person who attacked me as a sign his returning mental health, why I called him a stupid fuck. It was just an effort by me to continue his therapy as an act of love. Had you been a bit brighter and gotten the picture back then, you would have jumped at the chance to throw yourself under the bus and insult him too.

:laugh: A low blow; Intelligence Quotient Scale: Moron = 50-69 Imbecile = 30-49 Idiot = 29 & below

It's hard to imagine someone this stupid. They either are or are just playing dumb in order to issue an "I'm so offended" attack - one they hope will fool a mod into thinking you've broken one of the rules. If it's the latter, they must not have much respect for others. What's really funny is the ones using the latter ruse then go on to attack others in a similar manner. I suppose this could be interpreted that they don't have much self-esteem since their methods are obvious to even a fifteen year old.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
...
So now my dear and kind imbecile, you perhaps understand this time why, when presented with a person who attacked me as a sign his returning mental health, why I called him a stupid fuck. It was just an effort by me to continue his therapy as an act of love. Had you been a bit brighter and gotten the picture back then, you would have jumped at the chance to throw yourself under the bus and insult him too.

:laugh: A low blow; Intelligence Quotient Scale: Moron = 50-69 Imbecile = 30-49 Idiot = 29 & below

It's hard to imagine someone this stupid. They either are or are just playing dumb in order to issue an "I'm so offended" attack - one they hope will fool a mod into thinking you've broken one of the rules. If it's the latter, they must not have much respect for others. What's really funny is the ones using the latter ruse then go on to attack others in a similar manner. I suppose this could be interpreted that they don't have much self-esteem since their methods are obvious to even a fifteen year old.

Maybe, but I think it more likely that about all he read was that stupid fuck thingi and has been galloping with it as a burr under his saddle ever since. I think it's naturally for a lot of people not to read what I say as a kind of self protection. I talk about mirrors too much, hehe.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Fell upon this tonight while wondering around on the net:

Fr. John A. Sanford, Episcopal priest and Jungian analyst, interprets Jesus' teachings from a Jungian perspective in his 1970 book The Kingdom Within. In it[10] he associates being a Pharisee with identifying with our mask or persona. He interprets the Devil or temptation to sin as "the inner adversary", the saying "love your enemies" as the dictate to discover and remove our projections from others, and advocates Jesus as the exemplar of human wholeness, uniting body, soul, spirit, sexuality, eros, and meaning through love.

and yet you call people stupid fucks? hmmmm, something doesn't sit right there...

Well who is to blame for that. Isn't this about the third time I have tried to explain this to you, but because I love you so much I will try again. You are very intelligent and you, this time, will understand, I'm sure. You are also very kind and sympathetic to the down trodden, and you are trying to protect someone you thought was meanly attacked. I love you for that. I, for reasons I don't understand, been the same was since a small child. I have always tried to protect the weak and stick up for those who can't stick up for themselves.

And it is for that reason that I am deeply troubled that the right wing seems to be losing their minds and was a problem I seemed to have been working on, subconsciously, if it gets TLC off my back, apparently for quite some time, and the solution to which, like a bursting bubble, came suddenly to me as an epiphany, while doing the dishes and which consisted exactly of this:

I know that the right suffers from repression, the result of a reliance on authoritarian control, and that they are patriarchal, relying on force like the police and the military to maintain discipline and societal control.

Well, you should be able to guess what is going to happen when some leftest mother takes over control. We are about to go to hell in a hand basket. Everything repressed is about to surface, because a girlie man brings love and understanding instead of an iron hand.

And so you see the paradox. If you are nice to people who suppress murderous rage they will in no time at all try to kill you. That's what happens when repression is released. It happened in the Soviet Union and in South Africa too and it will happen in China and big time in North Korea too, some day. And it's happening here, right now, before your very eyes.

The repressed require being put down intimidated and threatened, especially with humiliation and loss of face in a group to keep the lid on their repression and they want that more than anything.

They are terrified of being loved and seek and hunger for hate. That is why in my first post I said:

"Your father is a syphilitic pimp, your mother is a whore. You have the brains of a donkey and you smell like shit. On the day you were born truth died and got stuffed up your ass, your coat has holes in the elbows, and your hair is falling out. Your ass is the size of an elephant, and your testicles though tiny are ten times the size of your brain. You are an idiot extraordinaire. You look into the left eye of your neighbor's wife and you have pimples on your nose. You are the worst piece of shit the world has ever seen."

This you see is what the folk on the right long to hear. They demand and crave being treated like subservient shit by some great authoritarian god like me. They lust and long for somebody to fight them they can justifiably trample under their feet. They go nuts when people love them and treat them well. So I stepped up to the plate to fulfill that duty. Obama is just too naive and lacking of understanding to to supply them with what will make them feel better. And if you are any indication, I think I did a fair job.

So now my dear and kind imbecile, you perhaps understand this time why, when presented with a person who attacked me as a sign his returning mental health, why I called him a stupid fuck. It was just an effort by me to continue his therapy as an act of love. Had you been a bit brighter and gotten the picture back then, you would have jumped at the chance to throw yourself under the bus and insult him too.

Wow....I have heard and read A LOT of bullshit in my time...but this is the bullshitiest thing I have ever cast my eyes upon.

 

[Moonbeam]

Wheezer: Wow....I have heard and read A LOT of bullshit in my time...but this is the bullshitiest thing I have ever cast my eyes upon.

M: Thank you.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
...
So now my dear and kind imbecile, you perhaps understand this time why, when presented with a person who attacked me as a sign his returning mental health, why I called him a stupid fuck. It was just an effort by me to continue his therapy as an act of love. Had you been a bit brighter and gotten the picture back then, you would have jumped at the chance to throw yourself under the bus and insult him too.

:laugh: A low blow; Intelligence Quotient Scale: Moron = 50-69 Imbecile = 30-49 Idiot = 29 & below

It's hard to imagine someone this stupid. They either are or are just playing dumb in order to issue an "I'm so offended" attack - one they hope will fool a mod into thinking you've broken one of the rules. If it's the latter, they must not have much respect for others. What's really funny is the ones using the latter ruse then go on to attack others in a similar manner. I suppose this could be interpreted that they don't have much self-esteem since their methods are obvious to even a fifteen year old.

Maybe, but I think it more likely that about all he read was that stupid fuck thingi and has been galloping with it as a burr under his saddle ever since. I think it's naturally for a lot of people not to read what I say as a kind of self protection. I talk about mirrors too much, hehe.

Maybe - or it's intellectual laziness or dishonesty.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Wheezer: Wow....I have heard and read A LOT of bullshit in my time...but this is the bullshitiest thing I have ever cast my eyes upon.

M: Thank you.

finally something we both agree on :thumbsup:

 

[babylon5]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: babylon5


You know what's sad? You're way late to this discussion to add your egocentric comment. I give you an "F" for being late and a mormon.

:laugh: Your unedited version made any lateness well worth it. I won't even bring up freud. I assume you're using the Quote link located below each post. In the subsequent reply window, have you ever noticed the button next to the "Reply to Topic" button? I wonder what it's purpose is...

You've already made yourself look like a sniveling fool. I only pointed it out. You did all the work. Ya big baby.

"freud"? I can't do as good job as you're making a sniveling uneducated fool of yourself here. You can't even spell correctly in your own post and think you're hot shit here. You should have stayed in school.

I laugh at you

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: babylon5

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: babylon5


You know what's sad? You're way late to this discussion to add your egocentric comment. I give you an "F" for being late and a mormon.

:laugh: Your unedited version made any lateness well worth it. I won't even bring up freud. I assume you're using the Quote link located below each post. In the subsequent reply window, have you ever noticed the button next to the "Reply to Topic" button? I wonder what it's purpose is...

You've already made yourself look like a sniveling fool. I only pointed it out. You did all the work. Ya big baby.

"freud"? I can't do as good job as you're making a sniveling uneducated fool of yourself here. You can't even spell correctly in your own post and think you're hot shit here. You should have stayed in school.

I laugh at you

Idiots often laugh for no good reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip

I know, I should take your word over wikipedia but for some reason, think this would be foolish. You need to learn to stop when you get behind. Blundering further behind is just embarrassing.

 

[babylon5]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: babylon5

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: babylon5


You know what's sad? You're way late to this discussion to add your egocentric comment. I give you an "F" for being late and a mormon.

:laugh: Your unedited version made any lateness well worth it. I won't even bring up freud. I assume you're using the Quote link located below each post. In the subsequent reply window, have you ever noticed the button next to the "Reply to Topic" button? I wonder what it's purpose is...

You've already made yourself look like a sniveling fool. I only pointed it out. You did all the work. Ya big baby.

"freud"? I can't do as good job as you're making a sniveling uneducated fool of yourself here. You can't even spell correctly in your own post and think you're hot shit here. You should have stayed in school.

I laugh at you

Idiots often laugh for no good reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip

I know, I should take your word over wikipedia but for some reason, think this would be foolish. You need to learn to stop when you get behind. Blundering further behind is just embarrassing.

Are you serious? This is how you justify the fact you can't spell words correctly? Blame it on Freud?

Too bad wikipedia can't teach you spelling lessons.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: babylon5

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: babylon5

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: babylon5


You know what's sad? You're way late to this discussion to add your egocentric comment. I give you an "F" for being late and a mormon.

:laugh: Your unedited version made any lateness well worth it. I won't even bring up freud. I assume you're using the Quote link located below each post. In the subsequent reply window, have you ever noticed the button next to the "Reply to Topic" button? I wonder what it's purpose is...

You've already made yourself look like a sniveling fool. I only pointed it out. You did all the work. Ya big baby.

"freud"? I can't do as good job as you're making a sniveling uneducated fool of yourself here. You can't even spell correctly in your own post and think you're hot shit here. You should have stayed in school.

I laugh at you

Idiots often laugh for no good reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip

I know, I should take your word over wikipedia but for some reason, think this would be foolish. You need to learn to stop when you get behind. Blundering further behind is just embarrassing.

Are you serious? This is how you justify the fact you can't spell words correctly? Blame it on Freud?

No, it's what came to mind when you called me a mormon. Of course, there are other possibilities.

Are you saying I misspelled freud? If not, which word are you obsessing over?

Too bad wikipedia can't teach you spelling lessons.

Yeah, it is. I took the liberty to assume you meant "teach me how to spell". But maybe you can help with my edumacation, anyways. I imagine you're genuinely concerned. Actually, I'm genuinely concerned for you. I imagined you could have come up with better material to slam me with than a spelling error (and a nonexistent one at that). You need to quit giving away free ammo - it's unseemly.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Ihey8neocons

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Don't take offense when no mal intent accompanied the words issued...

I would imagine, about this time, that Corn, especially, if he hasn't dropped off the face of the earth, is quite upset that I have lavished all this love on the right with none so far for the left. Well, all I can say is that us old time players of WOW who are 226 in first aid have been carefully schooled and tested in the art of triage and that we treat those first who are the most seriously sick.

All this similarly applied, of course, when big bad authoritarian, Daddy Bush, came to town. The left went nuts when they knew we were in for up to eight years of vicious beatings.

I have no clue what you said but I'm digging it since we both hate Bush.

Moonster don't hate Bush... well, let me restate that ... Moonster hates everyone cuz he is filled with hate somewhere in his toes or near there.
Nice to meet you, btw. Welcome to P&N if this is your first visit.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
...
So now my dear and kind imbecile, you perhaps understand this time why, when presented with a person who attacked me as a sign his returning mental health, why I called him a stupid fuck. It was just an effort by me to continue his therapy as an act of love. Had you been a bit brighter and gotten the picture back then, you would have jumped at the chance to throw yourself under the bus and insult him too.

:laugh: A low blow; Intelligence Quotient Scale: Moron = 50-69 Imbecile = 30-49 Idiot = 29 & below

It's hard to imagine someone this stupid. They either are or are just playing dumb in order to issue an "I'm so offended" attack - one they hope will fool a mod into thinking you've broken one of the rules. If it's the latter, they must not have much respect for others. What's really funny is the ones using the latter ruse then go on to attack others in a similar manner. I suppose this could be interpreted that they don't have much self-esteem since their methods are obvious to even a fifteen year old.

Maybe, but I think it more likely that about all he read was that stupid fuck thingi and has been galloping with it as a burr under his saddle ever since. I think it's naturally for a lot of people not to read what I say as a kind of self protection. I talk about mirrors too much, hehe.

Maybe - or it's intellectual laziness or dishonesty.

The answer might be found if folks would simply ask themselves what caused their latest outburst of hate or the issuing of great gobs of vile contempt for another human. The motivator for anything we do is easy to track if we'd only do it.
What makes the guy proclaim his machoism or how he's gonna do something dramatic to the next person who steps on his lawn... Why the need to advertise? What causes that?
The very same thing this thread is about.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: babylon5

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: babylon5


You know what's sad? You're way late to this discussion to add your egocentric comment. I give you an "F" for being late and a mormon.

:laugh: Your unedited version made any lateness well worth it. I won't even bring up freud. I assume you're using the Quote link located below each post. In the subsequent reply window, have you ever noticed the button next to the "Reply to Topic" button? I wonder what it's purpose is...

You've already made yourself look like a sniveling fool. I only pointed it out. You did all the work. Ya big baby.

"freud"? I can't do as good job as you're making a sniveling uneducated fool of yourself here. You can't even spell correctly in your own post and think you're hot shit here. You should have stayed in school.

I laugh at you

Freud only accepted that a few motivators existed while Jung showed many things motivated and for that Freud gets a baby 'f'.

 

[LunarRay]

I'm going to suggest something everyone knows as being the theme of Moonbeam's OP.

Self Esteem! When does a person know they have true self esteem? It is not based on how much you make at your job or how well you can cuss or any of the 'attributes' that one thinks are indicators of True Self Esteem UNLESS, as an example, when someone tries to put you down right here in P&N and your response is not in kind but, rather, seeks to discuss what ever the point is relative to the OP or subsequent posts and omits any reference to the attempted put down... or failing finding a point and only seeing the put down you ignore it and move on. The need to respond to a put down is an indicator of one's own need!

Think about it.. or not..

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: babylon5

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: babylon5


You know what's sad? You're way late to this discussion to add your egocentric comment. I give you an "F" for being late and a mormon.

:laugh: Your unedited version made any lateness well worth it. I won't even bring up freud. I assume you're using the Quote link located below each post. In the subsequent reply window, have you ever noticed the button next to the "Reply to Topic" button? I wonder what it's purpose is...

You've already made yourself look like a sniveling fool. I only pointed it out. You did all the work. Ya big baby.

"freud"? I can't do as good job as you're making a sniveling uneducated fool of yourself here. You can't even spell correctly in your own post and think you're hot shit here. You should have stayed in school.

I laugh at you

Freud only accepted that a few motivators existed while Jung showed many things motivated and for that Freud gets a baby 'f'.

Utterly amazing. I can't believe, don't want to believe, baby5 is using capitalization as the basis to discredit me. That would be so disappointing and pitiful. No, I won't believe this of someone who is able to turn on a pc and go to a specific website. It has to be something clever and diabolical.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
I'm going to suggest something everyone knows as being the theme of Moonbeam's OP.

Self Esteem! When does a person know they have true self esteem? It is not based on how much you make at your job or how well you can cuss or any of the 'attributes' that one thinks are indicators of True Self Esteem UNLESS, as an example, when someone tries to put you down right here in P&N and your response is not in kind but, rather, seeks to discuss what ever the point is relative to the OP or subsequent posts and omits any reference to the attempted put down... or failing finding a point and only seeing the put down you ignore it and move on. The need to respond to a put down is an indicator of one's own need!

Think about it.. or not..

This can and does work sometimes. It's fruitless if the person is an imbecile, though. You think that people would laud a politician who doesn't respond to each and every attack?

 

[fleabag]

When you put out your beliefs and then blast a demographic of people and call them crazy for not agreeing with you and that the behave in a certain way (which just so happens to be the way most people act when you piss them off) then is it any surprise? If I start saying "(insert group) are fucking animals, they're violent, angry, uneducated, etc. etc." is it any surprise if you start getting responses and people acting like that? You're basically inciting anger by making those statements and that makes you either a fucking idiot if you're trying to resolve a problem or a fucking douchebag for inciting rage in others needlessly.

 

[fleabag]

Originally posted by: jonks
Communism! Socialism! Anti-Christ!


hmm...where have we seen this before???

http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...e-latest-insanity.html

That's partially bullshit. The real reason a lot of republicans don't say shit when bush did things that were "un-american" is because of their blind faith in people who represent their party. Bush could've instated universal healthcare and there probably wouldn't have been as much backlash as there is now, and there's a lot now because Obama is a democrat, NOT BECAUSE HES BLACK. I'm very strongly opposed to any sort of "universal health care" or government intervention to this degree but that doesn't mean I don't think the republican party has seriously fucked up and hasn't put focus where it really matters. I mean I like Ron Paul and all for most of his views but sometimes there is shit like abortion or the environment that I disagree with him on and that really pisses me off which is very likely the reason why republicans still can't get support. It's because they've tied themselves to the religious people and not to the rational free market thinkers.


Communism isn't the answer
Facism isn't the answer
Laissez faire isn't the answer.
The foundation we setup 200 years ago was fine; some of the regulations on corporations and preventing anti competitive behaviors was good, workers unions were good, civil rights is good.

But what isn't "Good" is subsidizing people's lifestyles, making things "easier" for those who already do nothing. Why are we rewarding people for having children when they're already broke and stupid? I'm not saying we should start firing squad stupid poor people, but to subsidize their lifestyles, to take from those who have and give to those who don't have and aren't deserving is completely WRONG.

I love putting out quotes that are used over and over again because some are just so poignant, and here is one I particularly like: (paraphrased I believe)



"Socialism stops working when you run out of other people's money."



I think the real problems that democrats have is that they see the government as this huge entity with lots of money. So when they have an agenda, instead of trying to get money from people in their community or using their own money to support their idea, or "dream", they go to the government bitching and moaning about how terrible people's lives are and how they (the government) must do something about it before it's too late..


My belief is to rarely use the government to do things like social welfare but instead have people create their own charities or businesses that cater to the poor and help them. The government is the WORST entity to do any sort of "helping", we all seem to know how bad of a job the government does at things yet when there is a problem, the democrats nonetheless run to the government for assistance because they have no other ideas in getting a big sum of money.


The worst part about the government and why you'll see so many people get red in the face when the discussion comes up is because the government is all encompassing, there is no option to "opt out", you must abide by their rules and must pay them otherwise you'll be in trouble. Some people love this idea because the idea that their beliefs or ideals will be "mandatory" and forced upon others is just so tantalizing as they can almost taste "victory". Unfortunately for these people who have their heads stuck in the clouds, the government being that it is, stumbles over itself and executes plans so poorly than these people's "dreams" are never TRULY fulfilled.


Want a fun example of this "dream" that never came true?
In Berkeley California there is this park and it's called "People's Park".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park

A "perfect" example of people with these vivid dreams of what this "thing" ought to be, only to have that come crashing down simply because their ideas have no basis in reality. Another example which I'm obligated to bring up and everyone should be aware of is communism. When you read about communism and how people talked about it, you see people who are big dreamers who have these vague ideas of how things work and then try to implement this plan only to have it fail MISERABLY. Finally one last idea of "dreamers" is Nazi Germany, where it was going to be this "great empire" that was going to last for "1000 years" etc. etc. only to have it crumble in the end.



I guess in extremely simple terms I could sum up democrats and republicans like this:
Democrats are Dreamers, they like to dream and think of "new ideas" and then implement them even if there is no strong evidence to prove the efficacy of that idea. They want to have all these new things done NOW, they have no patience and lack planning which in the end results in failure. (Democrats are OPTIMISTS)
Republicans aren't dreamers, they like to stick with what they know and are stubborn. They don't like change and aren't open to new ideas and the ONLY and I mean ONLY way to convince them otherwise is to give them overwhelming data disproving their current beliefs and that the "new belief" is what will work undoubtedly. (REPUBLICANS ARE PESSIMISTS)


Of course you can say "well what about this guy" and while I'm willing to accept that people aren't as easily defined as "republican or democrat", since most discussions ARE about either republicans or democrats, I'm going to have to use that formula for the basis of argument until it isn't applicable anymore.

Another thing you could say is this (though I don't agree with it and I kinda consider myself a republican): "evil" Republicans like to control people with corporations and money, "evil" Democrats like to control people with government and laws.