I need automotive help! Now W/PICS! -Thanks ATOT!

crumpet19

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Solution:

-The plug in question was a low pressure switch for the A/C compressor. It plugs into the A/C accumulator.
-I was able to test the switch by shorting the wires on the plug. When I did this the compressor kicked on and the air blew cold.
-Bought a new switch from the parts store for about 12 bucks -the threads on this new switch matched the ports on the A/C refrigerant canister with no problems.
-Read pressures with a gauge and adjusted the set screw on the switch to shut off at correct pressure. (I don't know what exactly the pressure was - the O'reilly's guy checked it for me.)
-FIXED!

HUGE Thanks to Evadman and flyfish!!


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So, I was looking under the hood and notice this part handing by a wire. I dont know what it is or where to connect it at!


Helpful stuffs:

-1993 Ford Ranger 4cyl 5spd
-(while looking at the engine compartment from front bumper)- this part was hanging on a wire that connected to two black boxes on the left side of the firewall. (It looked like it was connected to two black boxes though, the wire was in that plastic wire routing shield.)

-One of these boxes has tubing going to the AC compressor.

-The part:
On the wire end it has two pins. Between these two pins is a screw (i took it apart and under that screw is a conical piece of metal sitting on a spring.)
The other end is female and has threads inside of it. At the bottom of this end, there is a pin and a small hole beside the pin.
-Numbers stamped around the part: 9917 89360 D-8 and the roman numeral II

It almost reminds me of the oil pressure sending unit on my chevy cheyenne. But, this was on a wire coming from a box on the firewall.

Existing problems with the truck:
-AC doesnt work - compressor won't turn on.
-Occasionally the oil light stays on after startup - I attributed this to electrical short in the gauges (the courtesy lights come on and off whenever they want).
P.Brake light comes on whenever it wants.
Turn signal courtesy lights randomly illuminate or blink.
Fuel gauge reads randomly.

The truck has lots of character. But, I paid $500 for it 6 months ago. I'm just wondering what this sensor goes to.

PICS:
This is the wire the part plugs in to. To the left of my hand is the passenger fender. The top of the pic is the firewall.
This is the part in question with the wire plugged in to it. The wires are colored Purple and Green/Orange.
The threaded end up of the part.

Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
-christopher

 

KK

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
:camera:'s?

Yeah, pics would help. I got a 94 2.3 ranger, I don't recall ever noticing what you are trying to describe.
 

jupiter57

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Sorry dude, you won't get any help here!
You see, ALL ATOTers drive (Paid for) Beemers, 'Vettes, Cobras, Lotus', etc. What with all of 'em being wealthy Investors and all.
I'm quite sure none of them has ever even raised the hood on anything less than 1 year old nor worth less than $30K!

Seriously though, what you describe could be a plethora of things, and, as FoBot above suggests: Pics would certainly help.

I'm no mechanic, though I play one on the weekends.
 

flyfish

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Does the pin down in the threaded hole look like the pin in a air valve on a tire?
 

crumpet19

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Pics posted!

Originally posted by: flyfish
Does the pin down in the threaded hole look like the pin in a air valve on a tire?

Yes, it does. But this pin doesn't seem to move.
 

flyfish

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That is a low pressure switch for the A/C system. It shuts the A/C compressor off when the system pressure drops below a certain psi. It should screw in on the A/C accumulator/ drier.
 

crumpet19

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Originally posted by: flyfish
That is a low pressure switch for the A/C system. It shuts the A/C compressor off when the system pressure drops below a certain psi. It should screw in on the A/C accumulator/ drier.

Forgive my ignorance but,... what is that? and where do i find it? And I'm assuming since i turned the screw in the middle of the electrical end, i probably changed the threshold for the pressure?
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: flyfish
That is a low pressure switch for the A/C system. It shuts the A/C compressor off when the system pressure drops below a certain psi. It should screw in on the A/C accumulator/ drier.

What he said. that is for a CCOT system, if it goes bad your clutch on the compressor will not cycle. If it is disconencted, it may be shorted and reconencting it would keep the clutch on continiously.
 

Evadman

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If you unplug the sensor like you did and short the connectors inside the electrical conenctor you should hear a click from the AC compressor if you turn on the AC. I forget which wire is power, but I know that it is only energiuzed when the AC is on.
 

flyfish

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The accumulator/drier is a silver canister about the size of a tall boy. It will have metal lines that run to it. Just follow your A/C system lines.
The valve that it screws in to will be just like the Schrader valve on your tire. Although it might be recessed in the drier/accumulator.
I am not 100% positive of the location of the valve, but if you look around your A/C system, within reach of that switch you will find it.
Now, why it is unscrewed? I can't say.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: crumpet19
Forgive my ignorance but,... what is that? and where do i find it? And I'm assuming since i turned the screw in the middle of the electrical end, i probably changed the threshold for the pressure?

It goes on this. And yes, that screw changes the pressure. You would need a gauge set to reset it.

Originally posted by: flyfish
The accumulator/drier is a silver canister about the size of a tall boy.

not quite as big as a tall boy. Sorry, couldn't resist.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: flyfish
The accumulator/drier is a silver canister about the size of a tall boy. It will have metal lines that run to it. Just follow your A/C system lines.
The valve that it screws in to will be just like the Schrader valve on your tire. Although it might be recessed in the drier/accumulator.
I am not 100% positive of the location of the valve, but if you look around your A/C system, within reach of that switch you will find it.
Now, why it is unscrewed? I can't say.

Pic
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crumpet19

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Wow. Awesome. Thanks so much guys. I shorted the connectors and the A/C clutch came on. The air blows cold. But it rattles like crazy. I'm not sure why it was unplugged but, the threads on the switch are different than the threads on the canister.

Next question: how bad would it be it i didn't calibrate the set screw in that switch?
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: crumpet19
But it rattles like crazy.
That may be why it was disconnected, the compressor is bad. But the previous owner wanted to use the defroster, which turns the A/C on, so they disconnected the switch. This is all hypothetical by the way.

Originally posted by: crumpet19
the threads on the switch are different than the threads on the canister.
that one you got me on. there must be another valve around there somewhere. I swore ford's were always right on top of the acumulator.

There are 2 ports on the top of the acumulator, one for a gauge set one for the sensor. I can see that the other one is covered by a protective cap (like it should be) maybe someone was checking the system over and put the plastic cap on the wrong one. Try taking the cap off and seeing if the sensor fits on that one. It is right next to the part I circled in red, except pointing straight up.
 

crumpet19

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: crumpet19
But it rattles like crazy.
That may be why it was disconnected, the compressor is bad. But the previous owner wanted to use the defroster, which turns the A/C on, so they disconnected the switch. This is all hypothetical by the way.

Originally posted by: crumpet19
the threads on the switch are different than the threads on the canister.
that one you got me on. there must be another valve around there somewhere. I swore ford's were always right on top of the acumulator.

There are 2 ports on the top of the acumulator, one for a gauge set one for the sensor. I can see that the other one is covered by a protective cap (like it should be) maybe someone was checking the system over and put the plastic cap on the wrong one. Try taking the cap off and seeing if the sensor fits on that one. It is right next to the part I circled in red, except pointing straight up.

Both ports have the same thread size.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: crumpet19
Both ports have the same thread size.
there's another port, or an adapter is missing.
 
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