I need help trimming the fat new PC build

[Xarick]

This is what I got so far.
I need to bring the total behind $1000:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wpx3Mp

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: PNY Optima 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec TruePower Classic 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.95 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer G257HL BMIDX 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1122.84

 

[Ken g6]

Could you please answer the rest of [thread=80121]these questions[/thread]? (You answered budget but not much more.)

Do you happen to be near a Micro Center?

And why did you remove the base PCPartPicker link? Not having it makes it much harder to analyze the parts.

 

[Essence_of_War]

Hmmmm...right off the bat that PSU looks pricey, I checked my newegg promo email today and it looks like that particularly unit has a $30 rebate, so it's $50, AR

Also, Sapphire has a version of that GPU for $160 AR, saves another $30 or so

 

[Xarick]

So it will be for gaming.
I live in the US
There is no Microcenter (oregon here)
I don't have a preference except I prefer intel for Procs
This is for my Brother in law so I am unsure on OC.. he isn't that tech savy, but at some point I may boost him up.
No current parts (Mouse and keyboard are not important in this build unless a cheap one can be had).
I am building now.

as far as the GPU is.. I think I would do this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202138&cm_re=280x-_-14-202-138-_-Product
but PC parts picker won't pick it up. So I picked a cost equiv

 

[Ken g6]

Are you not doing mail-in rebates for some reason? It looks like you're not. With MIRs your build is very close to $1k.

I also see why that video card wasn't listed - it's a refurb. That means somebody returned it, they may have briefly tested it, then they send it back out. It's probably OK, but it might not be.

Anyway, with a few tweaks, this version with a lesser video card is under $1k - if you do MIRs.

 

[Essence_of_War]

If not OC'ing you could save another 30-40 on the CPU/MoBo by going with an i5-4590 and a H97 chipset.

 

[Ken g6]

OK, here's the no-MIR version. No overclocking, but otherwise very similar. I also swapped in a Transcend SSD370 because PNY's had some issues. (But I couldn't beat the price with MIR.)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: *ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: *GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: *Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($184.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: *Rosewill Green 630W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.95 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer G257HL BMIDX 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1003.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-13 17:34 EDT-0400

 

[Xarick]

Yeah, I can't do MIRs because the budget is $1000. I don't have 6 months to wait to get that money back and I don't have the extra $200 it costs now to pay above the budget whilst I wait.

 

[Essence_of_War]

Ken_g6,

Do those ncix us deals include shipping? Typically I think they don't through pcpartpicker so it might actually be a close/better to go through newegg for the cpu and ram. There is also a cpu promo code through newegg through the 19th (EMCAPKP23) that makes the cpu $190 including shipping.

 

[Ken g6]

I hadn't thought about it before, but it does look like shipping is a problem. If I only use the two vendors that do provide shipping (Amazon and Newegg), I have to cut the build even more, and it's still $12 over budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: *G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Transcend SSD370 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: *Rosewill Green 630W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: *Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.93 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: *Acer G257HL BMIDX 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1013.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-14 13:36 EDT-0400

That B85 mobo should work with that CPU.

Edit: Transcend SSD340 snuck in there. Don't want that.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I look at what you've got and the price versus something like this http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9098515&CatId=2627 which is cheaper even after you add a monitor. I think that you'll get more for your money buying something already built. You can add a ssd as your boot drive for cheap and migrating is easy as using a manufacturer provided utility and you're still ahead money wise.

 

[Ken g6]

An R7 240? Not so good for gaming. So you'd have $750 for the base ASUS, plus you'd have to replace the graphics card ($190), plus probably a new PSU ($60), plus the monitor ($150). Total: $1150. And I forgot the SSD.

Edit: On the other hand, you might be on to something with the pre-built in general:

Lenovo H50-50 ($520, watch out for Superfish!) + graphics card ($190) + PSU ($60) + monitor ($150) + SSD ($92) = $1012. Which is within a couple of dollars of my build, but does come with keyboard & mouse.

 

[Burpo]

NewEgg has Windows 8.1 OEM for $79.95 with Promo Code EMCAPKR24

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1415-Index-_-OperatingSystems-_-32416776-L01B

and a 24" Acer Monitor for $119.95 with Promo Code EMCAPKR23

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...MC-031415-Index-_-LCDMonitors-_-24009700-L01A

 

[Valantar]

You might be able to save a bit if you scaled back the PSU to a size that is actually suited to the build. With an R9 270, which is a 150W card, you'd be perfectly fine with a ~400W PSU (the rest of your build will not double that power draw, even under power virus loads, unless you OC heavily). So 400W is very safe with the 270. For the 280 (250W card), 500W is sufficient, 550W is plenty. If the prices are the same, a 550W Gold unit beats a 650W "80Plus" any day of the week. It will last longer, and a better quality PSU is one of the best investments you can get for component longevity.

 

[Xarick]

okay I have got myself to this point which I think is good, but I am unsure on the mobo. Can someone advise me on that portion

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($192.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.07 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.49 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.90 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.90 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer G257HL BMIDX 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1014.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-19 14:23 EDT-0400

 

[sm625]

If your primary focus is gaming performance, you could go to dell financial services and buy a nehalem quad core off lease machine for around $300, and then drop in a $300 video card and an SSD, and get better gaming performance for $400 less than this build. Hell, you could even buy a GTX980 and still be under $1000. It would demolish that build so badly it would be funny.

 

[mfenn]

okay I have got myself to this point which I think is good, but I am unsure on the mobo. Can someone advise me on that portion

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($192.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.07 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.49 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.90 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.90 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Acer G257HL BMIDX 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1014.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-19 14:23 EDT-0400

There's a few issues with this build:

- SSD : The V300 is slow, especially after Kingston went with cheaper NAND in a silent revision. At $85 isn't cheap enough to warrant that slowness. I'd stick with a drive like the Crucial BX100 250GB for $100.
- PSU: Not all Rosewill power supplies are created equal, and the ARC series is one of those less equal units. The Antec NeoECO 520C is enough power and is a quality design for $58.