i need some help guys, how do i convince a friend to NOT do drugs

[upsciLLion]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Requiem for a Dream

That movie makes me want to stop LIVING, let alone never try drugs.

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[oLLie]

I can hear tweakmm clicking his way through the forums and into this thread.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
she tried marijuana for the first time, i need some help on what to say to her to keep it from going any further than that, and please, no flames about how marijuana is not bad for you.

I doubt you can do anything except push her to stop thinking of you as being a friend and start spending more time with her new friends.

 

[Beattie]

Do it with her. Then pretend to die.

That'll probably scare her.

 

[chrisms]

Trying to control your friends causes you to lose them.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

OH NO!

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
she tried marijuana for the first time, i need some help on what to say to her to keep it from going any further than that, and please, no flames about how marijuana is not bad for you.

Did she even like it? What's her whole take on this? Did she try it because it was passed around at a party or go out and get it herself? Did she roll it or use a bong? How many of the other people she hangs out with do this?

You strike me as going a bit overboard for a first time when you don't even have her side of the story up there. It's also marijuana. I know people who've smoked a few joints in their past when they were her age and turned out fine. I also know those who went the other way, got into the whole dealer side of it. That all depends on the person, of course, and you'd be better able to judge your friend. Having a few tokes as she was curious about drugs isn't too bad. At least it's nothing she needs to shoot or snort, that would be a huge concern.

As for making her stop, you can't if she really wants to. Get HER point of view first, see what she thinks of it, and then decide. If she says it's an experiment, let it go. If you know she keeps it up afterwards, bust her to her parents and whoever else you feel should know. Be prepared to have that friendship end if you do such a thing, though. 17 year olds really don't appreciate their peers acting like their parents, friends especially.

 

[chrisms]

If you bust her to her parents, expect to be the biggest ass in your school if you aren't already.

 

[TheNemesis]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: Evadman
Drugs killed my brother one month and 28 days ago. If I had known what was going to happen I would have done ANYTHING to stop it.

How'd you brother die? (Hope you don't mind me asking)

a dealer laced some weed with cocane and got him hooked on it. He went though over $30,000 in cash in less than 2 months buying cocane. He had a bad trip, and ran from people he saw that were trying to attack him that did not exist. The only problem is he ran into a lake where he drown. And he was a damn good swimmer.

He drowned exactly one month after his wedding to a girl he fell in love with in 6th grade. ONE GOD DAMNED MONTH. He had just gotten a job making over 40k a year, and had bought a $200,000 house 3 months earlier. He had it MADE, and he lost it all.

He was 22.

Certain drugs aren't "compatible" with some people, while others can use drugs resonsibly. He allowed drugs to take over his life, and something tells me that there's a lot more to that story. I'm not trying to add to your grief, but just because your brother can't handle drug usage, doesn't mean that many people can't.

 

[AvesPKS]

Bluto: My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
Otter: Better listen to him, Flounder. He's pre-med.

 

[GoodToGo]

OMG, my sincerest condolences Evadman. I did not see the thread about your brother. He sounded like a real good guy. Again my heart goes out for him, his widow and his family:brokenheart:

 

[Sust]

Wow... that really sucks.
It's shame to go out like that with your brain not being in full working order.
It's interesting how variable humans are. Some people have that magic gene(s) we havent discovered yet that lends a certain amount of resilience to addiction. Then there are others who play any FPS for the 1st time and they then turn into the lonely emaciated ghost who neglects all of his/her loved ones.

I think sometime in the next few decades, there will be MUCH better treatment for addiction of not just drugs, but things like gambling too. We're pretty close to figuring out whats happening on the molecular level in the addicted brain and it's only a matter of time now.

Oh, and for your curious buddy... Let her do what she wants. Youre not her mommy or daddy. Let them do their job as responsible parents and deal with it. If you are so strongly opposed to it and she still smokin da phunky stuf knowing how you feel, then maybe you need to reevaluate whether you guys are really that close.
Dont bother worrying about her. I'm sure you care and all that, but theres no point in losing sleep over someone who doesnt reciprocate.

THis is on the verge of YAGT

 

[GregGreen]

Originally posted by: TheNemesis

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: Evadman
Drugs killed my brother one month and 28 days ago. If I had known what was going to happen I would have done ANYTHING to stop it.

How'd you brother die? (Hope you don't mind me asking)

a dealer laced some weed with cocane and got him hooked on it. He went though over $30,000 in cash in less than 2 months buying cocane. He had a bad trip, and ran from people he saw that were trying to attack him that did not exist. The only problem is he ran into a lake where he drown. And he was a damn good swimmer.

He drowned exactly one month after his wedding to a girl he fell in love with in 6th grade. ONE GOD DAMNED MONTH. He had just gotten a job making over 40k a year, and had bought a $200,000 house 3 months earlier. He had it MADE, and he lost it all.

He was 22.

Certain drugs aren't "compatible" with some people, while others can use drugs resonsibly. He allowed drugs to take over his life, and something tells me that there's a lot more to that story. I'm not trying to add to your grief, but just because your brother can't handle drug usage, doesn't mean that many people can't.

It does sound like some part of the story is missing. It sounds like he was on PCP moreso than coke, in my opinion. And that's a crazy dealer. Coke is way too expensive to be lacing weed with it. On the other hand, PCp is relatively cheap to make so it would be more in line with lacing weed with it. it also fits into the going crazy part a lil bit better. I know a lot of people that have tried coke and not one of them has gotten addicted the first time - I just call that stuff about getting addicted the first time bullsh!t spread by the DEA. Coke use can eventually psychosis but it takes a bit longer than 2 months. And 30,000 dollars of coke in 2 months is more than 20 8balls a week... and that is a hell of a lot of coke. It sounds like he was into something other than coke and he was getting ripped off alot/didnt actually spend that much/bought it for a lot of other people too/into something we dont even want to know about.

 

[styrafoam]

Originally posted by: TheNemesis

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: Evadman
Drugs killed my brother one month and 28 days ago. If I had known what was going to happen I would have done ANYTHING to stop it.

How'd you brother die? (Hope you don't mind me asking)

a dealer laced some weed with cocane and got him hooked on it. He went though over $30,000 in cash in less than 2 months buying cocane. He had a bad trip, and ran from people he saw that were trying to attack him that did not exist. The only problem is he ran into a lake where he drown. And he was a damn good swimmer.

He drowned exactly one month after his wedding to a girl he fell in love with in 6th grade. ONE GOD DAMNED MONTH. He had just gotten a job making over 40k a year, and had bought a $200,000 house 3 months earlier. He had it MADE, and he lost it all.

He was 22.

Certain drugs aren't "compatible" with some people, while others can use drugs resonsibly. He allowed drugs to take over his life, and something tells me that there's a lot more to that story. I'm not trying to add to your grief, but just because your brother can't handle drug usage, doesn't mean that many people can't.

OH MY GOD. Handle drugs? Do you "HANDLE DRUGS" well? It is true that different people react in different ways to using, but in the end no good comes from any of it. What these people who are able to balance drugs and life wind up with is lost time and less money at best. They may also have a small amount of random bad luck and die from a bad trip or get busted & do a little time. Maybe get a felony or two on your record. No biggie.

To Schadenfroh-- you are only being a friend by voicing your concerns. Everyone says that experimentation is normal and not to worry, but people with addiction in their family history are the ones that lose it and go overboard. If you already know or can find out anything about her relatives as far as alcoholism and addiction are concerned then you will have a pretty big clue as to if you should worry or not. She may feel as though you are overreacting as she probably isn't quite an addict yet, but it is never too early to stop the process.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: Evadman
Drugs killed my brother one month and 28 days ago. If I had known what was going to happen I would have done ANYTHING to stop it.

How'd you brother die? (Hope you don't mind me asking)

a dealer laced some weed with cocane and got him hooked on it. He went though over $30,000 in cash in less than 2 months buying cocane. He had a bad trip, and ran from people he saw that were trying to attack him that did not exist. The only problem is he ran into a lake where he drown. And he was a damn good swimmer.

He drowned exactly one month after his wedding to a girl he fell in love with in 6th grade. ONE GOD DAMNED MONTH. He had just gotten a job making over 40k a year, and had bought a $200,000 house 3 months earlier. He had it MADE, and he lost it all.

He was 22.

Sorry about your bro. That said it is impossible to lace Pot with cocaine. It just can't be done. It does sound like your bro was given some PCP laced pot. That would account for him running into a lake and drowning. Someone with a bad coke habit would only run into a lake if he thought he could score more coke by doing so. Also 30K in 2 months on Coke is more Coke that even Tony Montana could do in 2 months. He would probably have had a heart attack or bleed to death from his nose if he was doing that much. Actually if he had that kind of money around Drug Dealers he probably would have been killed by them for the money.

 

[rgwalt]

Ultimately, this is her life. Let her live it how she wants. You can express concern for her, even try to educate her on why not to use drugs, but it is her choice in the end.

R

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Requiem for a Dream

 

[jurzdevil]

call the cops on here and have her arrested

 

[hopeless879]

I think you should educate yourself on the subject of marijuana first. Then decided if you still think it's a bad idea for her to do it. If you do still think it's a bad idea at least you will have all the facts to show her. Other than that, let her make her own decisions, the more you pressure her to stop, the more she will do it.

 

[stormbv]

But if people didn't do drugs, how would we be able to keep building prisons??!

 

[hopeless879]

Sorry of your loss Evadman.

But I'm going to have to agree with some of the other posters saying that it wasn't Coke laced pot. Coke is water soluble, which is why people snort it and not smoke it. Since you say it was coke laced the coke would have burned up into nothing. I'm think more along the lines of PCP since that is one of the few things that people lace weed with. Also I've never heard of anyone halucinating from coke unless they were on extremely high doses.

 

[T2T III]

Certain drugs aren't "compatible" with some people, while others can use drugs resonsibly. He allowed drugs to take over his life, and something tells me that there's a lot more to that story. I'm not trying to add to your grief, but just because your brother can't handle drug usage, doesn't mean that many people can't.

I can't believe what I've read. "Handlng" drugs?? I don't think anyone can "handle" drugs. Sooner or later, something has to give. If you are doing drugs on a constant basis, there is no "handling" -- something in your life will surely suffer, whether it be a relationship, your financial situation, your work performance or even your health.

 

[NetWareHead]

I'm not too sure on how to respond to this thread...drugs by themselves are not a bad thing, it boils down to the individual using them. If she is stupid and irresponsible already, then drugs would probably be a bad thing for her, yes even weed. And if it isn't pot, then certainly something legal like alcohol could have the same negative effect on her. I don't know you or your friend but don't be so quick to judge drug usage. I have a well-paying job, work another weekend job, part time student and am saving up to buy a house AND I smoke weed nearly everyday. I know alot of productive people who smoke as much or more than me. Stupid irresponsible people who do drugs become statistics and propaganda for the anti-drug war in this country.

 

[hopeless879]

Originally posted by: NetWareHead
I'm not too sure on how to respond to this thread...drugs by themselves are not a bad thing, it boils down to the individual using them. If she is stupid and irresponsible already, then drugs would probably be a bad thing for her, yes even weed. And if it isn't pot, then certainly something legal like alcohol could have the same negative effect on her. I don't know you or your friend but don't be so quick to judge drug usage. I have a well-paying job, work another weekend job, part time student and am saving up to buy a house AND I smoke weed nearly everyday. I know alot of productive people who smoke as much or more than me. Stupid irresponsible people who do drugs become statistics and propaganda for the anti-drug war in this country.

Exactly. The main problem is irresponsible users of drugs. If you abuse ANYTHING it will have negative effects on you, whether its Marijuana, Caffiene, Television, anything and everything can be abused. The thing with drugs is they must be used in moderation by responsible users. Drugs are not inherently bad.

I for one am a full time student and have a full time job. Over the summer I smoked nearly all day, everyday. I wasn't in school but I did have a full time job. Was I negatively affected by this? Unless laughing too much is bad for me, then no.

 

[tweakmm]

Drugs are bad... mmmkay?