I NEED TO FIND THE ** ATI X1800 XT ** RIGHT AWAY, SHIPPED FEDEX NEXT DAY! AT ANY COST!

[xMax]

it obviously has to be new (in the box). I have been looking everywhere for it, but i just cant seem to find it, and searching over and over through online resellers is really starting to take a toll on me.

Please help if you can. a company, a web site... anything.

the closer to montreal the better of course.

thanks

Max

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: xMax
it obviously has to be new (in the box). I have been looking everywhere for it, but i just cant seem to find it, and searching over and over through online resellers is really starting to take a toll on me.

Please help if you can. a company, a web site... anything.

the closer to montreal the better of course.

thanks

Max

Can you be more specific on why you need an X1800XT NOT for gaming applications?

 

[xMax]

its kind of personal, but lets just say im running a series of uncompressed AVI animations at 1600 x 1200 resolution and it has to run very smoothly at 8 frames per second. For this reason, i need absolutely nothing from the card except its speed.

im certain that its overkill, but im in a serious situation and on such short time that i cant waist time looking and trying out different solutions. i had a slow computer and tried using a fast card like the ati x850 xt, but it didnt do much since my mobo bus was really slow. in fact, so too was the ram. It was like old sdram running at 133mhz.

i then used a ramdisk, but there is two issues with that, one, it still doesnt seem to have an affect on totally smoothness without any hickups at all, and two, im not sure the animation that i stored on the ramdisk was actually entirely running off the partition, since the available ram that i examined on the memory usage only went down by 1/3 of the size of the animation when it was loaded.

so i have the money, and im getting a new computer altogether and i just dont want to waist time and take chances.

Max

p.s. windows media player doesnt run the animation from ram, which is a lot slower.

 

[Hacp]

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-1800XT

Not in retail Box I think. BUt still new.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Isnt a Quadro a better buy for those apps?

Although they cost quite alot, maybe a quadro 4500 is what you want.

 

[Nextman916]

Originally posted by: Hacp
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-1800XT

Not in retail Box I think. BUt still new.

Good price

 

[xMax]

what do you guys think of the ati x1300 pro, it doesnt have any of the 3d power that i completely dont need, but does have a whoping 600mhz core clock speed, which is just 25mhz less than the 625 of the x1800 xt. And perhaps with all that 3d stuff not there, it would be even better for me. cheaper, simpler, and just plain clock speeed.

but i have two concerns with this, one; will it actually run at that speed? and two; will i even use the cards memory when playing out my animation, or does the data go straight from CPU to the vpu and out to my monitor. This is a big question that i need to know, since i keep hearing that the video memory is only used for the 3d stuff, like shaders, gemeotry, textures and that other stuff i completely dont need.

Max

 

[Munky]

Isn't video playback more dependent on the CPU than the GPU?

 

[xMax]

i dont know. is it.

actually, i think its possible, and for this reason, all i need is a simple but really fast card where i use its every feature as i am supposed to, as it doesnt have all this waisted 3d hardware and drivers and bulk that would probably even run worse on my computer where i have no gaming what so ever.

but a confirmation would be nice.

 

[CrispyFried]

avis dont need video ram, they need bandwidth. you need a fast defraged hd and agp 8x or better yet pci-x plus a fast cpu. a 32 meg vid card would work as well as a 512 meg card, all that is used is framebuffer memory. the cpu decodes it and gives the frames to the vid card. the vid card does hardly anything although some can help out a bit with filtering and such.

at least thats the way it was a year or so ago, maybe its different now. what avi format is it? maybe you need to re encode it with a less demanding codec.

 

[videoclone]

xMax I am an expert when it comes to DivX/Xvid Files and large mpeg playback & encoded movies at 1600x1200+ I started back in 1997 ? Now if you want these movies to run there best please invest in an Athlon64 3800+ or 4400+ with 2mb of cache ? maybe even an Opteron 265/270 With 2GB?s DDR CL2.5 in Dual channel OR 1Gb?s of DDR CL2.0 Dual channel
SATA2 Hard drive!!! 16MB Buffer or 8 at the least.

The two AMD cores with a 2000FSB HT link with Dual 400DDR will be ideal for your requirements ? As for Videocard ? You should be fine with either Nvidia or ATI maybe you should look into an X1800XL ? or 7800GT If you want to save money a 6600GT X1600XT are fine but avoid the 6800 cards as they have a broken video encoder.

A Quadro would be the most ideal card as its very function is to give 100% of its power to applications and NOT! 3D gaming so the drivers are tweaked for apps.

Anyways a Fast CPU and Ram would give you more frames then a fast videocard.

Good luck.

 

[SickBeast]

ICCT is selling them for $849 in Markham, Ontario. www.icct.ca

 

[Cookie Monster]

Core Clock doesnt mean anything these days.

So dont fool yourself of thinknig "wow 600mhz clock card,, must be fast"

I think you need a quadro card. Do some reserach on those because these baddies can handle 32x FSAA

 

[xMax]

A fast CPU and ram is certainly the idea. But as i mentioned, the animation is completely uncompressed and therefore doesnt involve any coding or decoding or compression or anything what so EVER. an uncompressed AVI animation running at 1600 x 1200 resolution and at a slow frame rate. What are the specs in a graphics that would perfectly do the job. Im thinking, ati x1300 pro, its just fast and basic, which is just what i need.

but crispy friend, by bandwidth do you mean simple CORE CLOCK speed, memory clock speed, large memory interface or the memory transfer rate. You really have to be more specific there crisp. because i havent a clue what you mean by bandwidth. and how could speed have nothing to do with it.

 

[Ripper294]

I am only 15 and learning but you have me really confused . Buy a X1800XL and O/C it to 625

 

[videoclone]

xMax !

I think the x1300 may be cutback in the features that could help with video playback so avoid it.

When it comes to video PLAYBACK !! of whatever size Rez 1920x1200 WSAR ext?. your still relying 80% on your CPU and memory and 20% on your videocard's ability to DISPLAY YES ?JUST DISPLAY? the frames the CPU and system Memory spew?s out at it.

This means you should look for playback features & not speed? Quadro having the most then X1800>7800>X1600>6600GT I think that?s right

If you want to ignore our posts then why post here!

 

[videoclone]

I?m not sure about Video card memory and its importance to Videoplayback but I think a 256Bit memory bus helps I?m not 100% sure as I?ve never used a videocard with 128bit memory to play anything higher then native DVD 720x480

Quadro = The cheap ones have 128bit the rest 256bit
X1800 = 256bit memory
7800 = 256bit
X1600 = 128bit
6600GT 128bit

 

[xMax]

im going to reread all this info. the problem is that i have an idea, but i guess what i really need is someone to litterally outline all the required computer features that i need for my exact specific application. So im going to see a computer technical guy who works at a computer store and see what he has to say. he is also a friend, so he wont lie and just try to load me up so he can make a buck

but the idea is that i definitely need a superfast hard drive, even though im going to run the animation from a ramdisk, which i believe works amazing through personal experience. but i suspect it doesnt actually load the entire animation into ram, since by inspecting the amount of available ram before and after loading and playing the animation, i noticed that the total size of the animation was not being completely loaded. oh...i get it, if the ram disk pretends to be a hard drive, and since windows media player plays anims from the drive by loading and unloading portions, then the same was happening with the ram disk. that makes sense. maybe.

anyways, 10 000rpm hard disk
fastest cpu just to be sure
800mhz or more fsb on the cpu
fastest ddr2 ram
fastest intel motherboard

but then there is the graphics card. i guess, i will just go with something like a sapphire x800 xt, since the computer technical friend of mine sells those, as i was looking for an ati, which ive given up on.

if i do that, then i cant possibly be missing a single component, for that card, and overclocked, will have it all. PERIOD. but that leaves me with only one question:

WOULD SUCH A BLOADED AND STOCKED CARD ACTUALLY SLOW MY COMPUTER DOWN?

i dont see why it should. i mean, if the cards features are not being used, then they are not being used. but im not sure. so if you guys can give one final comment on this last question, then i will leave stop bothering with my paranoid perfectionism.

but i will say thank you very much for clearing a few things. forums are just one of the most amazing features offered by the internet.

Max

 

[DeeSlanger]

SHENS...

 

[Chocolate Pi]

Intel? Wait, no, WE MUST SAVE THIS GUY!

The first thing you have to understand sir, is the total and complete irrelevance of clock speeds. They don't matter, they are a mere statistic. Say that to yourself a few times. Clockspeed only matters when you are comparing two IDENTICAL things.

2nd, what you need is a good processor, a good AMD dual-core processor. An Opteron 165 or 170 would be best, but an X2 3800+ would work as well.

Just tap your feet together and keep saying it: "Clockspeed doesn't matter".

 

[videoclone]

Chocolate Pi Don?t wast your time with this guy he came here for advice and is disregarding it! INTEL = Big mistake DDR 2 Slow with Very high latencies = Even Bigger mistake X800XT = What a wast of money.

This guy knows nothing about ( How to make a good video workstations ) he knows nothing about what the FASTEST Video Encoding & Playback CPU is and has no idea how far behind Intel have become in the ? I.T video production?

His listed system is a pile of CRAP for VIDEO and it makes me Sick there are noobs still out there today buying CRAP like this just become they are not upto date with modern technology

My Dual AthlonX2 3800+ at 2400Ghz, 2400FSB HT Link and 2GB of dual DDR Will obliterate this machine his listed and still have cost less HAHA ?. I guess it serves him right for ignoring us.

The only thing this guy has right is the Super fast hard drive :thumbsup::thumbsup:
SATA2 ... Maybe even a SCSI 15.000RPM RAID,

 

[Sc4freak]

For an uncompressed AVI, a fast video card or fast CPU won't help. You need an extremely fast HDD, a 7200RPM HDD will barely be able to sustain 640x480 @ 30fps fully uncompressed.

 

[xMax]

and what if i run the animation(s) from a ramdisk, which pretty much doesnt use a hard drive at all, and as i have already witnessed, runs the bloody thing at least 3 to 4 times smoother than a hard disk. no hickups, no freezes. well... obviously there was, but thats because my current computer is 5 years old and just doesnt have what it takes.

but in case the cpu still accesses the hard disk even when using the ram disk, then i will certainly go all the way with a hard disk. the only problem is this, i hate scsi. i just had a bad experience a long time ago and i dont think it naturally fits into my system. that is, the intel D955xbk that im planning on getting probably doesnt natively support scsi, and requires an adapter in the pci slot or something.

but 15 000RPMs hey...this is going to require some thinking.

Max

 

[RussianSensation]

If you got money, just get

A64 4800+ X2
4 gigs of ram
2x 512mb GTX
and hook up 2x Maxtor Atlas 15k II SCSI drives in RAID?

If you have a bottleneck somewhere for this task, it'll be addessed "somewhere." hehe Once you solve your emergency issue....you spend a week or so figuring out what components you really need for good playback next time around.....whatever you dont need you send to me for providing advice

 

[Ripper294]

Amd would be the way to go as far as saving money and they are indeed faster. I myself like intel but thats me. If you do indeed go intel wait for the 975X chipset . should be out in DEC. GiGabyte already has one out ' I would go with the Corsair 5400UL memory. The raptor 10,000RPM HD shoulds serve you well. Keep in find that with AMD you will spend less $$$ but the feature set is not as good as intel . If you buy the latest and greast sound card from creative there seem,s to be a compatability issue with this sound card with nvidia chipset. Whatever you do Buy what you want as both AMD and Intel will do the job.