I need to render a fridge inoperable

[everman]

Originally posted by: erikiksaz
I'm just hoping to get this archaic thing replaced by our apartment management. I declared war when they sent us a bill for water and trash, even though they told my friend and myself in person that we would not have to pay for water. If we're paying an extra 30 for water, we better be saving that 30 from elsewhere, namely that energy hog of a fridge.

You should review the contract you should have signed when you agreed to rent the property.

Also destruction of property in order commit insurance fraud is illegal.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy
just let the freon out it most likely uses the old type of freon and will be mucho expensive to convert over to the new stuff so they will prolly just buy a new one

bad for the environment, though. i think shorting it out somehow is the way to go with this bad boy.

 

[Eavan]

set it on fire.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: jagec
I don't know what's more sad, that you're willing to break perfectly good equipment and commit fraud just to save $30 or less, or that you can't even think of how to do it by yourself :roll:

how is it perfectly good equipment? it turns everything to ice and uses a lot of electricity?

Is your car always 1-2 years old, to take advantage of the latest technology? Old != broken.

 

[cirthix]

old friges are built to last, be happy it works 20 years later, somethig a new fridge just wont do. breaking sh!t to pollute so you can save a buck is VERY selfish, dont try to whore out the envornment for a tiny fattening of your wallet. i support a ban for this asshat, this is supporting fraud and possiblly breaking envornmental protection laws

 

[erikiksaz]

Here's the issue. If i go to the office and report my fridge to be not working the way it should, ie icebox, ice/water dispenser, and the freezing issue (leaving out the energy deficient problem), what if they choose not to replace the unit?

In doing this, you've limited yourself to virtually no options. If you go ahead and find a way to break the fridge, you've practically incriminated yourself. It'd be wayyy too obvious.

Which is why i stand here, deciding on what i should do before heading off to the office. If you were in my position, would you willingly pay that 70 dollars for the faulty refrigerator alone? As i said, fraud schmaud, what would you do?



(and in posting this thread, i was not serious about needing advice, as i already had my salt water idea. it was more or less in hopes of a fun discussion, that's right f_u_n, remember what that is?)

 

[opticalmace]

Originally posted by: erikiksaz
Here's the issue. If i go to the office and report my fridge to be not working the way it should, ie icebox, ice/water dispenser, and the freezing issue (leaving out the energy deficient problem), what if they choose not to replace the unit?

In doing this, you've limited yourself to virtually no options. If you go ahead and find a way to break the fridge, you've practically incriminated yourself. It'd be wayyy too obvious.

Which is why i stand here, deciding on what i should do before heading off to the office. If you were in my position, would you willingly pay that 70 dollars for the faulty refrigerator alone? As i said, fraud schmaud, what would you do?



(and in posting this thread, i was not serious about needing advice, as i already had my salt water idea. it was more or less in hopes of a fun discussion, that's right f_u_n, remember what that is?)

f_r_a_u_d is f_u_n

 

[erikiksaz]

Originally posted by: cirthix
breaking sh!t to pollute so you can save a buck is VERY selfish, dont try to whore out the envornment for a tiny fattening of your wallet. i support a ban for this asshat, this is supporting fraud and possiblly breaking envornmental protection laws

Breaking and polluting? Where did i ever say i would pollute the environment, that's the last thing i would do. My car is in need of a new a/c compressor. I have one ready to drop in, but you know what's holding me back? Saving up enough cash for a full flush and refill! Did i just open up the lines to release the r12? NO. I would never release the freon in a car, let a lone a refrigerator (as if i even knew how to do so in a fridge).

And a few bucks? Let me calculate a few things for you:

Current fridge - 1700 watts, we'll assume it cools for 30 mins, and idles for 30 mins, so we'll use 850 watts per hour in order to make it a bit easier.

New fridge - 900 watts, we'll assume the same for this new fridge, 30 mins cool, 30 idle, so it's 450 watts per hour

Current - 850x24(hours)x30(days)=612,000 watts --> 612KW @ 0.12c per KW --> $73.44

New - 450x24(hours)x30(days)=324,000 watts --> 324KW @ 0.12c per KW --> $38.88

Price difference is 34.56. Over a course of a year having that older fridge would cost 414.72 dollars! That's a tiny fattening of the wallet? Hell, i'm a college student, i don't know wtf you're talking about. I don't know how much a new fridge costs, but it looks like a new one would pay for itself in 2-3 years.

And as for the definition of fraud:

Deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain while causing injury to another party

Achieving personal gain? Woohoo, how i do love free refrigerators! Seriously though, this is an apartment, we will be long gone after the year is done. In having this replaced, we will gain nothing. In reality, we will have lost that extra $34.56 charge every month. And so will the future tenants. And we live in California, remember that whole electricity fiasco?

this is supporting fraud and possiblly breaking envornmental protection laws

Laughable. I'm sure the environment tears at the thought of Energy Star Compliant appliances!! Oh god no!

 

[cirthix]

Originally posted by: erikiksaz

Originally posted by: cirthix
breaking sh!t to pollute so you can save a buck is VERY selfish, dont try to whore out the envornment for a tiny fattening of your wallet. i support a ban for this asshat, this is supporting fraud and possiblly breaking envornmental protection laws

Breaking and polluting? Where did i ever say i would pollute the environment, that's the last thing i would do. My car is in need of a new a/c compressor. I have one ready to drop in, but you know what's holding me back? Saving up enough cash for a full flush and refill! Did i just open up the lines to release the r12? NO. I would never release the freon in a car, let a lone a refrigerator (as if i even knew how to do so in a fridge).

And a few bucks? Let me calculate a few things for you:

Current fridge - 1700 watts, we'll assume it cools for 30 mins, and idles for 30 mins, so we'll use 850 watts per hour in order to make it a bit easier.

New fridge - 900 watts, we'll assume the same for this new fridge, 30 mins cool, 30 idle, so it's 450 watts per hour

Current - 850x24(hours)x30(days)=612,000 watts --> 612KW @ 0.12c per KW --> $73.44

New - 450x24(hours)x30(days)=324,000 watts --> 324KW @ 0.12c per KW --> $38.88

Price difference is 34.56. Over a course of a year having that older fridge would cost 414.72 dollars! That's a tiny fattening of the wallet? Hell, i'm a college student, i don't know wtf you're talking about. I don't know how much a new fridge costs, but it looks like a new one would pay for itself in 2-3 years.

And as for the definition of fraud:

Deception carried out for the purpose of achieving personal gain while causing injury to another party

Achieving personal gain? Woohoo, how i do love free refrigerators! Seriously though, this is an apartment, we will be long gone after the year is done. In having this replaced, we will gain nothing. In reality, we will have lost that extra $34.56 charge every month. And so will the future tenants. And we live in California, remember that whole electricity fiasco?

this is supporting fraud and possiblly breaking envornmental protection laws

Laughable. I'm sure the environment tears at the thought of Energy Star Compliant appliances!! Oh god no!

hey, i'm not saying you will let loose the refrigerant, just responding to other people who suggested it. I'm not really arguing about the energy savings. btw, the fridge would probably 'pay for itself' somewhere between 3 and 4 years

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: erikiksaz
Current - 850x24(hours)x30(days)=612,000 watts --> 612KW @ 0.12c per KW --> $73.44

New - 450x24(hours)x30(days)=324,000 watts --> 324KW @ 0.12c per KW --> $38.88

Price difference is 34.56. Over a course of a year having that older fridge would cost 414.72 dollars! That's a tiny fattening of the wallet? Hell, i'm a college student, i don't know wtf you're talking about. I don't know how much a new fridge costs, but it looks like a new one would pay for itself in 2-3 years.

Achieving personal gain? Woohoo, how i do love free refrigerators! Seriously though, this is an apartment, we will be long gone after the year is done. In having this replaced, we will gain nothing. In reality, we will have lost that extra $34.56 charge every month. And so will the future tenants. And we live in California, remember that whole electricity fiasco?

you make a very good argument. However, I'd go to the apartment managers with those figures; if you can convince them to change the fridge without having to break the old one everyone wins.

 

[Kibbo]

Or, you can take the landlord to the rent tribunal regarding the water charge.

 

[gsaldivar]

Lay it on it's side and plug it in.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

i think he should mince the fridge, i mean to me sounds like its not really useful anymore.....20+yrs old, in-efficient, freezes stuff, bust ice maker, and wouldnt be worth a dime anyway. the landlord guy sounds abit tight fisted if u ask me...if i was in charge of that apartment and renting it out id be sure to have fairly modern appliences that work and dont consume energy like its going out of fashion....oh and the sneaky $30 water charge doesnt help....

i say get one back on him, you'l enjoy a new fridge, get somethingn back off the extra 30 u have to pay, and you'll be doing the world a favour by having a more energy efficient fridge

totall fair in my veiw

all those with the insurance fraud claims i think should jus zip it

tho i live in england an u are in us where tbh the legal system is just crazy! tho your compensation culture is swiftly moving our way

 

[DivideBYZero]

BAN! Due to intarweb forum pack culture.

 

[GonzoCircus]

Kill the fridge. It is abusing energy and making it more expensive for everyone.

 

[woowoo]

Buy your own fridge!

Then drill a hole in the old one and put a keg in it.
Only use the old one for parties

Take the new fridge with you when you leave

 

[J0hnny]

Don't listen to the holier-than-thou ATOT idiots.

I'm going to give you real advice because if I was in the same exact situation and my landlord would not replace it, I wouldn't just let it slide, and hammering that water charge on you is even worse.

This is what you need to do:

The one component that drives the refrigerator is the compressor. It's usually on the bottom and on the back. Take connector off of the wiring to the compressor. What you want to do is make sure that you take one pin out of the connector. If you have a wiring diagram, or can trace it yourself, preferable the one that goes to the relay or power control circuit. Try to do it so that it's concealable. No repairman will figure it out if you do it right. They'll go crazy and recommend you replace the whole darn thing.

 

[flot]

I just think it'll be funny when you break your own fridge, and then they take 4 days to repair it, and when they're done, you'll have an even worse fridge.

Also, brainiac, there's nothing that says they have to replace it with a brand new fridge. They might have a whole warehouse full of that same model.

And comment #3, grow up. Welcome to apartment life. If you don't like it, buy your own damn fridge. Unless perhaps when you signed the lease, there was a brand new $1500 fridge sitting there, and then suddenly when you moved in there was this old POS.... ? Yeah, riiiiiight.


PS: Your salt water plan is the dumbest idea yet. Somehow you think the little air vent in the back of your refridgerator is tied to something important?

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: erikiksaz
Here's the issue. If i go to the office and report my fridge to be not working the way it should, ie icebox, ice/water dispenser, and the freezing issue (leaving out the energy deficient problem), what if they choose not to replace the unit?

In doing this, you've limited yourself to virtually no options. If you go ahead and find a way to break the fridge, you've practically incriminated yourself. It'd be wayyy too obvious.

Which is why i stand here, deciding on what i should do before heading off to the office. If you were in my position, would you willingly pay that 70 dollars for the faulty refrigerator alone? As i said, fraud schmaud, what would you do?



(and in posting this thread, i was not serious about needing advice, as i already had my salt water idea. it was more or less in hopes of a fun discussion, that's right f_u_n, remember what that is?)

How about using your brain and reading the terms of your lease/read up on the housing laws in your state? This sounds as if it falls under the "failure to provide livable housing" category, but I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on ATOT.

Breaking your fridge just to get a new one is a stupid idea. What if the landlord tells you to suck it up and call a repairman on your own dime? Given that they're already bending you over for the water bill, I wouldn't be surprised if they dicked you around on the refrigerator issue as well, to say nothing of the fraud issues already mentioned.

 

[IamElectro]

Unplug it lay it on its side for a day then stand it up and pkug it back up quickly. This will let the refrigerant which contains the oil drain from the compressor you figure out the rest.

 

[TechnoKid]

Set to max cool on both the freezer and fridge, and leave teh doors wide open. This will most likely burn out the compressor motor.


edit: oh tape up the little switches that make it seem like the door is closed so the fan will run (when the doors are open)


edit: spelling and added something:, this will make your electricity run a little high, but will most likely guarantee a burnt motor.

 

[torpid]

Why don't you offer to help pay for the new fridge since it will save you money? Assuming your crazy math is correct, you could offer to have your rent increased $20/mo [if] he buys you a new fridge.

If your lease states you pay for water, then you pay for water. Did you read your lease before signing it?

 

[40Hands]

Kill the fridge. Its old and consumes too much energy. People in here yelling for a ban are the ones that need to get a life.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: TechnoKid
Set to max cool on both the freezer and fridge, and leave teh doors wide open. THis will most likely burn out the conmpressor motor.


edit: oh tape up the little switches that make it seem like the door is closed do the fan will run.

what he said

 

[brtspears2]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: erikiksaz
Current - 850x24(hours)x30(days)=612,000 watts --> 612KW @ 0.12c per KW --> $73.44

New - 450x24(hours)x30(days)=324,000 watts --> 324KW @ 0.12c per KW --> $38.88

Price difference is 34.56. Over a course of a year having that older fridge would cost 414.72 dollars! That's a tiny fattening of the wallet? Hell, i'm a college student, i don't know wtf you're talking about. I don't know how much a new fridge costs, but it looks like a new one would pay for itself in 2-3 years.

Achieving personal gain? Woohoo, how i do love free refrigerators! Seriously though, this is an apartment, we will be long gone after the year is done. In having this replaced, we will gain nothing. In reality, we will have lost that extra $34.56 charge every month. And so will the future tenants. And we live in California, remember that whole electricity fiasco?

you make a very good argument. However, I'd go to the apartment managers with those figures; if you can convince them to change the fridge without having to break the old one everyone wins.

Interesting math. I have TWO fridges, one 2003 Model Frigidair and one 1985 model GE whatever the heck it is, and with 2 computers, a huge ass tv, and all the other junk in my condo, I use only 15KW a day, roughly 450KW. Riverside Pub. Util. charges 0.0899 per KW for the first 250KW, and 0.1299 per KW after that. My 19 yr old fridge still working great, if not colder and better than the newer fridge (for beer and other beverages of a refreshing nature)

EDIT: Make that three fridges, add a 2002 Sanyo Minifridge to the mix.