I put someone in prison for life today . . .

[GoodRevrnd]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: bleckywelcky
Oh great, our problems are solved now. Now that we've put this guy in prison everything will be great. He'll spend his life in prison and come out rehabilitated in the end (if he makes it), so he can live a great life for a couple days contributing to society what he has not done for the other parts of his life. I can't fathom how great of an investment the tax payer's $10,000+ a year towards keeping just this guy in prison will be.

Prison is a joke and a waste of money. I don't condone the sorts of acts that would lead to someone being put in prison, but the idea of putting someone in prison is ridiculous. Some people actually believe (and some of the origins of prison sentences are based on the idea) that people sent to prison for a couple years will come out better people for society in the end, rehabilitated - I sure hope all of you are smart enough to see that crock of bull.

There needs to be some serious prison reform in the United States - this system of just throwing people in cells to make them think about what they have done and to provide satisfaction to the harmed families is ridiculously flawed. I think at the heart of a new system of prison ideals would be that people who have violated our society need to make contributions back to society, not just suck more from society by sitting in a prison - soaking up our money while they rot away. Perhaps some basic reforms could involve putting prisoners on farms or plantations to work off their debt, several hundred or thousand prisoners manually harvesting products at each location, perhaps even donating it to starving countries, etc. I don't have all the answers for a new system, but there definitely needs to be some work done here.

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No offense but I fail to see how you have even begun to address the issue of the dangerousness of these people. A lot of prisoners are there for no reason more noble than that they need to be warehoused for the protection of society. In this instance, I believe the convict is staggeringly dangerous, and I am happy to pay to keep him behind bars.

I'd rather have him put away then out doing that to more people. On a related note, however, I think work camps are an excellent ideas. I believe some prisons where they have instituted these systems actually pay for themselves. PLUS you teach the prisoners some degree of work ethic, the miniscule amount of money they do earn (I read between $.40 and $1.50/hr) does serve as some motivation, and since they have some direction, prison violence tends to be lower.

 

[Skibby9]

Those incarcerated should earn their keep. You work in order to eat, enjoy cable tv, attend school, and have clean clothes. And you should foot the bill to pay for the guards and the physicians and so forth. You don't earn, then you sleep and live naked and exposed to the elements (in an enclosed area, of course) like anyone else who refuses to work.

For those who earned captital punishment (and surely this person did), those folks gotta do their part to help out, too. I say give them a shovel and make them dig their own grave. Let them buy or even make their own grave marker, (give them 24 hours to work out the details)...

But ropes, bullets, syringes, electrons--- these all cost money, time, and effort on the part of the rest of society. I say make the person walk/run to their gravesite, and dig their own grave, and lay down and wait for the earth to be replaced. I guess society could grant them the favor of covering their body.

I mean, really, why should anyone drop a dime to pay for someone who couldn't act responsibly? I say the guilty help in every conceivable way to mete out their punishment.

Anyways, good job sir!

 

[Mountain]

as my little brother would say, "Almost life in prison, plus the death penalty".

 

[Smolek]

good job

 

[everman]

Death penalty would be too light for him, he'll have a very painful and terrible time in jail. Basically what he deserved (unless you could ship him to a jail in N.Korea or something)

 

[mandatory]

Good job Don, I'm glad he's no longer in the free society and a threat to us and ours.

Having said that, I'll also say there's no way that I think he should ever mingle with a general population in a prison, either. To put him there would virtually be saying to the inmates it's ok to have his a$$. He'd probably end up dead. Hardly worthwhile rehabilitation for them. Some of them will live on the outside someday, and that's hardly the kind of responsibility society needs to convey to them. It's two faced and reprehensible. It really concerns me that some of you think it's OK. Frankly I'd rather see them (child rapists) get the death penalty than to allow all that.

Eventually I hope we'll develop a successful treatment for this madness. Until then they need to be separated from society and the general populace in prisons. Vigillanteism and rape and lynch mob mentality just ain't right, even when it happens in a prison.

Pray for their victims and their recovery, but pray for them too.

 

[Information21]

Sorry I can't read all of this thread. Tons of good conversation and many long posts, I just don't have time.

I feel that those who cause suffering should suffer. If you harm someone in a cruel and unusual manner you should in turn be punished in a cruel and unusual way. With this guy they should find out what scares him or what will cause him pain and exploit it.

I don't like our society but since we have to live in it the way it is I feel this is how it should be. Call me wrong, but that's the way I see it.

A big thank you to all those who help fight the sick bastards out there. Later.