I really hate "team building" exercises at work...

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TallBill

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I always find ways to cheat, then blame the exercise creators for not specifying certain rules. I had some thing where you could only cross lava when holding blah blah blah and whatever, so I simply enlisted some guy who was walking by and completely not involved to move shit for us.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I wouldn't mind paintball as a team building exercise... anything else is just dumb.

On my old team, the boss was asking for suggestions. Paintball came up. She refused because she thought everyone would gang up on one particularly obnoxious coworker.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Your fat coworker is going to fall backwards with his eyes closed and arms across his che... err stomach, you are to catch him!

We had to stand back-to-back with our partner and then "change something" about ourselves and turn around. We then had to notice what changed about the other person.

Unfortunately for me, my partner was our CIO, who is my boss. :| I couldn't horse around too much because even though he is pretty cool, he does at least have to toe the corporate line in front of his boss, the CFO, who was also there. I did catch him rolling his eyes a few times, however.
 
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Ken g6

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I think we ought to have an IT session next year and make them suffer.

That is a great idea! Teach them things like how to avoid getting viruses! (Don't visit porn sites at work...)
 

Brovane

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We have a team building on Friday afternoon. The rumor is that we are going to Dave & Busters to have lunch and then we are free to have fun playing the games the rest of the afternoon.
 

IndyColtsFan

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We have a team building on Friday afternoon. The rumor is that we are going to Dave & Busters to have lunch and then we are free to have fun playing the games the rest of the afternoon.

As long as free alcohol is involved, that is a GREAT idea!
 

IndyColtsFan

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That is a great idea! Teach them things like how to avoid getting viruses! (Don't visit porn sites at work...)

Seriously, I've often said that one of the big problems we faced as a company (at my last position moreso than this one) was the lack of computer literacy in the end user population. I thought we should've had a mandatory IT training day.
 

Daverino

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On my old team, the boss was asking for suggestions. Paintball came up. She refused because she thought everyone would gang up on one particularly obnoxious coworker.

Wow. . . Eight responses to your own post about how much team building sucks? Yeesh. I believe you're pretty much dead right on your assessment of people and dead wrong on your methods.

Finding leaders in your group of reports is one of the most important things a manager can do. Not everyone is a leader, of course. Not everyone wants to be a leader. But if you want to grow your company organically, instead of going outside and hiring in your leadership, you need to spot those people who can lead. You build up your teams from the bottom. I call that cultivating talent. You can call it blowing sunshine up people's asses if you want, but if you're not doing it you're doing yourself and your company a disservice.

From my point of view, if someone does not want to participate in team building, leadership training, or step outside of their role is not someone that's going to grow to the next level. The same would apply to anyone close-minded enough to consider something like a team building exercise a waste of time from the get-go without seeing whether they could actually learn something from it. That's fine. We need plenty of people at the lower levels who are singularly focused at the tasks they are comfortable with.

If you really are a manager, what an awful example you must be setting for your reports with your attitude. Maybe you are a born leader and team member and get nothing out of these things, but many people are not. If you are going to convey to your coworkers that these things are a waste of your time, did it ever occur that they might not be a waste of their time? That they might really need to develop the skills that team building exercises are for? And that they *would* like to be good team members and leaders but don't know how? OK, you're awesome. . . I get it. If you're a manager and you have such disdain for team building, do you think your reports won't pick up on it? Why sabotage them?
 

DrPizza

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I always find ways to cheat, then blame the exercise creators for not specifying certain rules. I had some thing where you could only cross lava when holding blah blah blah and whatever, so I simply enlisted some guy who was walking by and completely not involved to move shit for us.

lmao, we did a bunch of "fun" activities that were supposed to facilitate team building. They were done by some professional company that specialized in team building exercises for companies. I can only recall a few of the events we participated in, but I do recall most of all, how flustered I had the leader person. I took on a leadership role with my team, and we cheated on every single exercise. My team was the envy of all the other teams who saw those particular "games" as a complete waste of time.

One event - we had to stand in a circle with a balloon. While waiting for instructions, I anticipated that we were (think about this for a second... a bunch of people in a group, and a blown up balloon) going to have to hit the balloon around between us. I took the balloon, and just kept rubbing it on my hair. The leader person explained that we had to hit the balloon and not let it touch the floor. 1 hit later, and the balloon was stuck to the ceiling. We stood around. Leader became slightly flustered and said that it was cheating. "New rule everyone! You can't stick your balloon to the ceiling."

So, we started hitting the balloon back and forth. Within about 3 hits, I walked away from the group, returned with a glass of water from one of the tables and placed it on the floor in the middle of our circle. It only took about 5 seconds for us to hit the balloon into the cup. Leader person was not amused.

Ironically, *I* did more than leader person that day in terms of team building. My group became far more unified because of our collective rebellion against playing very childish games. (And because we were obviously raising team leader's blood pressure.)



Incidentally, several of the faculty I work with have never played paintball and think it would be an awesome activity for the spring as a team building type of thing. It wouldn't be sponsored by the school, but we'll probably be able to get at least 20 or 30 people to participate. I soooooo love to play paintball against noobs.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Wow. . . Eight responses to your own post about how much team building sucks? Yeesh. I believe you're pretty much dead right on your assessment of people and dead wrong on your methods.

Errr, I've been in training all day and had to respond to the posts.

Finding leaders in your group of reports is one of the most important things a manager can do. Not everyone is a leader, of course. Not everyone wants to be a leader. But if you want to grow your company organically, instead of going outside and hiring in your leadership, you need to spot those people who can lead.

That's great in theory, but in practice, it isn't universally applied well. Many "leaders" I've seen "discovered" were incompetent employees who simply sucked up and invited the right people to their parties. Seriously, it was horrible.

You build up your teams from the bottom. I call that cultivating talent. You can call it blowing sunshine up people's asses if you want, but if you're not doing it you're doing yourself and your company a disservice.

As a manager, your primary job is to achieve the goals set forth for you by your organization. In doing so, your job is to recognize deficiencies in your team and rectify that along the way, along with identifying growth potential for your employees.

The key component here is to ASK your employees what their goals are. Forcing someone to take "leadership training" when they have no desire to be a "leader" is a waste of your time, their time, and the company's time and money. That is what I take exception to.

From my point of view, if someone does not want to participate in team building, leadership training, or step outside of their role is not someone that's going to grow to the next level. The same would apply to anyone close-minded enough to consider something like a team building exercise a waste of time from the get-go without seeing whether they could actually learn something from it. That's fine. We need plenty of people at the lower levels who are singularly focused at the tasks they are comfortable with.

That is such a condescending tone. Many of those folks laugh at people like you, leave, and go on to be consultants making more money than you doing their "singularly focused tasks." Just because you're a manager doesn't mean you're automatically better than everyone else, nor does it mean that you automatically have some special, other-worldly ability to "know what's best" for your employees.

If you really are a manager, what an awful example you must be setting for your reports with your attitude. Maybe you are a born leader and team member and get nothing out of these things, but many people are not.

Who says I openly display animosity towards these sessions except on ATOT? Believe me, I know how to play the game and know office politics. I smiled, acted interested, and put in my time at these sessions.

You're right -- I am a born leader. Seriously, read up on the DiSC assessment if you haven't already done so. To me, it is all common sense. Also read "Strengths Finder 2.0," which was one of the few good training sessions I've had from HR. Again, common sense, but I am interested if our company will REALLY follow what the book says. I suspect it won't.

If you are going to convey to your coworkers that these things are a waste of your time, did it ever occur that they might not be a waste of their time? That they might really need to develop the skills that team building exercises are for? And that they *would* like to be good team members and leaders but don't know how? OK, you're awesome. . . I get it. If you're a manager and you have such disdain for team building, do you think your reports won't pick up on it? Why sabotage them?

Read the excerpt from the article Yllus posted.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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Also, let's think about this more globally. Let's say I'm John Doe, an employee interested in being a manager and no opportunities exist in my current company. If you're looking to prepare John Doe for the future, what do you think would benefit him more on his resume?

1. I took the DiSC assessment training.

or

2. I was the project/team leader on several high-profile projects.
 
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I like team building exersizes, though I've only experienced them in the context of engineering design classes. It allows you to get a feel of leaders, douchebags, followers and idiots pretty well.
 

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The company missed their chance. I took control of the group, thought outside the box, and innovated novel solutions which were far more effective than the solutions being employed by the other groups.

But, I'd rather play paintball. It's hilarious to do a "suicide run" down the side of a speedball field when you're playing against noobs. A few shots in the beginning & they all immediately take cover, allowing you to sprint uncontested. Then, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
 

sactoking

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We had to stand back-to-back with our partner and then "change something" about ourselves and turn around. We then had to notice what changed about the other person.

Unfortunately for me, my partner was our CIO, who is my boss. :| I couldn't horse around too much because even though he is pretty cool, he does at least have to toe the corporate line in front of his boss, the CFO, who was also there. I did catch him rolling his eyes a few times, however.

Ahhh, CIO/CTO, the redheaded step child of the C-level world!
 

zCypher

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We had a paintball activity but it was organized by one of my coworkers and had nothing to do with any team building exercise (lol). Everyone who went had a lot of fun.

I've been told that I'm a team player, but I don't really make a point of it - I just do what I do. Helping other people makes me feel good, makes them feel good and often comes back to help me, so why not? I have never heard of "team building" gimmicks though.

We do have meetings that entail a bunch of corporate buzz words, flow charts and so on to reduce waste and increase efficiency. Meh. To be expected.
 

StinkyPinky

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One time we were given an egg and had to design something that would make it survive a fall from the top of our building with materials we were given. Which was about 100 feet.

That's about the only activity that was slightly interesting. Usually it is just self-assessment crap and other stuff that usually results in embarrassment and loss of bladder control.
 

Throckmorton

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I've only done one, when I worked for the Park Service in Yellowstone. My boss took us rafting and it was awesome. That's all it was, rafting for a day, no mention of the term "team building" except tongue in cheek.
 

BoberFett

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At one job, "team building exercises" was code for "fire up Quake 3 Arena" over lunch.
 

rh71

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I've never met any of my teammates since I've been WFH since maybe 2005. Team-building would be interesting... ummm no. IT stands for introverts.
 

FeuerFrei

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I don't mind "team-building" if it's an excuse to have some fun.

But I tire of management using "team" or "family" labels in the hopes of eliciting that last full measure of devotion from employees. Feels psychologically manipulative.
Calling your company a "family" doesn't make it one, de facto.
 

sdifox

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I don't mind "team-building" if it's an excuse to have some fun.

But I tire of management using "team" or "family" labels in the hopes of eliciting that last full measure of devotion from employees. Feels psychologically manipulative.
Calling your company a "family" doesn't make it one, de facto.


If you work for the mafia or triad it is the real sense :awe:


Is indy still stuck in the same teambuilding exercise from 2010?
 

Exterous

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Team building can be ok but its tough to do well, especially since different people have different ideas about what it should be. Food generally tends to do well as do activities that get you outside the office
 

Linflas

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I don't mind "team-building" if it's an excuse to have some fun.

But I tire of management using "team" or "family" labels in the hopes of eliciting that last full measure of devotion from employees. Feels psychologically manipulative.
Calling your company a "family" doesn't make it one, de facto.
Getting old and crotchety, whenever they start with the family crap I tell them that family are the people I eat supper with on Thanksgiving.
 
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