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CitizenKain

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Absolutely, from what I gather PP is pretty much exclusively an abortion clinic, they seem to offer some other services but as you said they are all offered elsewhere, and from a few reports it seems they aren't even close to as big of business as abortions are for PP...

If the company has a solid stream of revenue and is profitable I just can't see why we as taxpayers need to fund this.

I'm sure if you make assumptions that come exclusively from people making shit up and lying you could say that.
 
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Planned Parenthood performs 40% of all abortions in the US.

So? He stated that they pretty much exclusively do abortions and that is also where they make most of their money. Here in reality, abortions make up 3% of PP's services, not > 50%, and the amount of revenue from that 3% of services is also not > 50% of their total revenue.
 

bozack

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Facts don't sway people of his mindset

See my reply above, all services one can now get via Obama care from any healthcare provider, thus the only unique service they offer is abortion...so why again do they need federal funding considering they turn a healthy profit

Also factcheck.org and politifact...so much for objective sources.
 
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See my reply above, all services one can now get via Obama care from any healthcare provider, thus the only unique service they offer is abortion...so why again do they need federal funding considering they turn a healthy profit
They've always handled Medicaid stuff and other insurances for services they've provided. On top of that, there are many states that are still not joining the club on expanded Medicaid, leaving a gap of people making too much to qualify for Medicaid and too little to qualify for a subsidy.

On top of it all, there are areas that are simply underserved with respect to family planning services and associated medical care. They're filling that niche. Things can be covered, but it does no one any good if they can't actually find a place to provide the service.

Also factcheck.org and politifact...so much for objective sources.
It's more than you provided for your assertions.
 

bozack

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They've always handled Medicaid stuff and other insurances for services they've provided. On top of that, there are many states that are still not joining the club on expanded Medicaid, leaving a gap of people making too much to qualify for Medicaid and too little to qualify for a subsidy.

On top of it all, there are areas that are simply underserved with respect to family planning services and associated medical care. They're filling that niche. Things can be covered, but it does no one any good if they can't actually find a place to provide the service.

It's more than you provided for your assertions.

1. how does any of that have to do with why a profitable private entity would get federal funding...they turn a profit, they don't need federal assistance.

2. its not on me to prove my assertions as you're the one disagreeing, I fail to see how to less than objective sources should be taken as "fact" when its easily determined that the services planned parenthood offers outside of abortion are available via a number of sources at this point and covered for all who want them...burden of proof is on you buddy boy.

3. How much in federal taxpayer funding does Planned Parenthood get...hint, its a lot....can't see why so many here who love the concept of profitable businesses paying their own way are seemingly ok with footing the bill for this one when they clearly don't need it.
 
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ivwshane

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1. how does any of that have to do with why a profitable private entity would get federal funding...they turn a profit, they don't need federal assistance.

Last time I checked there wasn't a requirement that entities receiving federal funding had to be non profit. Do you even understand why PP would receive federal funding and what it's used for? It appears you don't.

2. its not on me to prove my assertions as you're the one disagreeing, I fail to see how to less than objective sources should be taken as "fact" when its easily determined that the services planned parenthood offers outside of abortion are available via a number of sources at this point and covered for all who want them...burden of proof is on you buddy boy.

You made a claim about his sources being biased despite providing any evidence that they were. You either dispute the claims his sources made or show why they should be ignored.
What does it matter if the services PP provides are also provided by other sources?


3. How much in federal taxpayer funding does Planned Parenthood get...hint, its a lot....can't see why so many here who love the concept of profitable businesses paying their own way are seemingly ok with footing the bill for this one when they clearly don't need it.

Again, you seem to be clueless as to just what PP does and why, like thousands of other entities like it, it receives any federal money.

Btw, PP received roughly $500 million in federal AND state funding, out of about $160 billion of total federal spending that goes to health care providers.

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/22/9013565/planned-parenthood-government-funding

http://kff.org/medicare/fact-sheet/medicare-spending-and-financing-fact-sheet/
 

CitizenKain

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1. how does any of that have to do with why a profitable private entity would get federal funding...they turn a profit, they don't need federal assistance.

2. its not on me to prove my assertions as you're the one disagreeing, I fail to see how to less than objective sources should be taken as "fact" when its easily determined that the services planned parenthood offers outside of abortion are available via a number of sources at this point and covered for all who want them...burden of proof is on you buddy boy.

3. How much in federal taxpayer funding does Planned Parenthood get...hint, its a lot....can't see why so many here who love the concept of profitable businesses paying their own way are seemingly ok with footing the bill for this one when they clearly don't need it.

You can say you are are clueless and don't know shit with a lot less words. Saves everyone a lot of time.
 

Nebor

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1. how does any of that have to do with why a profitable private entity would get federal funding...they turn a profit, they don't need federal assistance.

2. its not on me to prove my assertions as you're the one disagreeing, I fail to see how to less than objective sources should be taken as "fact" when its easily determined that the services planned parenthood offers outside of abortion are available via a number of sources at this point and covered for all who want them...burden of proof is on you buddy boy.

3. How much in federal taxpayer funding does Planned Parenthood get...hint, its a lot....can't see why so many here who love the concept of profitable businesses paying their own way are seemingly ok with footing the bill for this one when they clearly don't need it.

Because the people on the right (not the far right that bombs clinics) realize that PP is a cheap way to reduce the amount of poors and browns.
 

senseamp

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Looks like GOP whipped themselves up into a Frenzy and may shut down the government over defunding Planned Parenthood. That will go over like a lead balloon.
 

soundforbjt

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1. how does any of that have to do with why a profitable private entity would get federal funding...they turn a profit, they don't need federal assistance.

2. its not on me to prove my assertions as you're the one disagreeing, I fail to see how to less than objective sources should be taken as "fact" when its easily determined that the services planned parenthood offers outside of abortion are available via a number of sources at this point and covered for all who want them...burden of proof is on you buddy boy.

3. How much in federal taxpayer funding does Planned Parenthood get...hint, its a lot....can't see why so many here who love the concept of profitable businesses paying their own way are seemingly ok with footing the bill for this one when they clearly don't need it.

Tell that to the oil companies, corporate farmers, etc...Hint they get way more than PP.
 

piasabird

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If planned parenthood is paid by the government and paid by the people who buy dead baby parts, then they must not be a non-profit. Sounds like to me they are a for profit group.
 

senseamp

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If planned parenthood is paid by the government and paid by the people who buy dead baby parts, then they must not be a non-profit. Sounds like to me they are a for profit group.

You are really ramping the stupid up to 11.
Do you understand the difference between revenue and profit?
 

Genx87

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Do you understand the meaning of "non-" attached in front of something? What's wrong with you? Are you a Republican?

You cant be this daft. The NFL was a non-profit for fucks sake. You going to tell us they werent generating massive profits?
 

FelixDeCat

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Do you understand the meaning of "non-" attached in front of something? What's wrong with you? Are you a Republican?

Do you think that's air you're breathing? This is not a partisan issue. This is an issue about life itself.
 
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Jaskalas

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Do you think that's air you're breathing? This is not a partisan issue. This is an issue about life itself.

Your defense of baby killing is sad and soon the practice will be defunded.

Deal with it.

How is a core tenant of the Democrat Party going to be defunded?
Republicans do not hold a 60+ majority required to pass legislation, and especially not the even higher standard to pass a veto from Obama.

The Congressional majority is powerless.
 

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Who is it that has been preventing the vote on this subject? Every time the states have voted against it the Federal government has discarded the will of the people.
 
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