I shot the neighborhood K9 this morning... Cautionary PIC inside.

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HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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This thread sure got pants on head retarded.

FFS, it's just a wild animal. I guess it's just from growing up in a rural area, but if you have an animal that's a nuisance, you just shoot it. It's not a big deal at all. Feral cat attacking some of your own domestic cats, for example, shoot it. Or a coyote attacking livestock, shoot it, problem solved. I mean shit it's not like they're endangered species, sometimes the department of wildlife will even encourage hunting of species like this because their population has been unchecked and a quick death from a rifle is actually more humane that starvation and other "natural" means of population control.

Not around here we dont. On a side not you're right about the direction this thread is heading.

I'm out.
 

frostedflakes

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
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It's like the idiot environmentalists in places like California that don't believe in controlled burns and other methods of managing their forests. Then the underbrush grows without check and all you need is a little lightning or some careless person tossing a lit cigarette, and you have a huge, deadly, and uncontrollable forest fire. People need to stop trying to inject their stupid, feel-good, idealistic crap into wildlife management policies. Nature isn't always nice and happy and sunshine and rainbows, and many times man's solutions (such as shooting overpopulated pests like coyotes) is actually better and more humane than how nature would deal with the problem if you continue to leave it unchecked. Sometimes you have to burn some land or shoot some pests or do stuff like this. May seem kind of destructive, but if you look at the big picture, it's actually for the best.
 

Lemon law

Lifer
Nov 6, 2005
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Controlled burns are still mankind playing God. Forest fires touched off by naturally occurring lightening bolts are the end outcome either way. Especially in places like California where naturally occurring Santa Anna Winds can spread sparks far and wide.

But still, where does mankind come in shooting Alpha predator like coyotes? This country used to have some wolves and mountain lions that used to fill the biological niche of alpha predator but those are by in large gone. Once a area loses its coyotes
because they are hunted out, what animal can assume the role of alpha predator?
Actually the controlled hunting argument better fits prey species like deer, that can denude a forest of all ground vegetation when their numbers get out of control.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Yeah I think he gave up after I corrected him though...

Sad part is without spelling (and I am sure many are running grammar checkers now) checkers, most that bitch would be totally incoherent.

I don't run anything like that as on a forum I am usually posting from work or while doing 3 million other things around the house. I come in and post something quick and don't bother to proofread it.

It's easy to be typing and listening to something/one else and typo a close word you are hearing as you type.

The funny part is it becomes the focus of the thread in an effort to prove they are right by default.

So sad these little men are. We all know in the 'real world' they keep their mouths shut like the bitches they are.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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Sad part is without spelling (and I am sure many are running grammar checkers now) checkers, most that bitch would be totally incoherent.

I don't run anything like that as on a forum I am usually posting from work or while doing 3 million other things around the house. I come in and post something quick and don't bother to proofread it.

It's easy to be typing and listening to something/one else and typo a close word you are hearing as you type.

The funny part is it becomes the focus of the thread in an effort to prove they are right by default.

So sad these little men are. We all know in the 'real world' they keep their mouths shut like the bitches they are.

It's great when they get caught out correcting someone with an incorrect correction though.

You're right they are little bitches though.
 

frostedflakes

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
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Controlled burns are still mankind playing God. Forest fires touched off by naturally occurring lightening bolts are the end outcome either way. Especially in places like California where naturally occurring Santa Anna Winds can spread sparks far and wide.

But still, where does mankind come in shooting Alpha predator like coyotes? This country used to have some wolves and mountain lions that used to fill the biological niche of alpha predator but those are by in large gone. Once a area loses its coyotes
because they are hunted out, what animal can assume the role of alpha predator?
Actually the controlled hunting argument better fits prey species like deer, that can denude a forest of all ground vegetation when their numbers get out of control.
As you point out if we don't do it nature eventually will. So in the end it's a question of which you prefer: Controlled burns that can be planned and managed, or unplanned and uncontrolled burns that can cause significant damage to property and loss of life. I don't know how any reasonable person could prefer the latter.

But we'll just have to agree to disagree on this I guess. It wasn't my intention to drag this thread too far off topic.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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This thread sure got pants on head retarded.

FFS, it's just a wild animal. I guess it's just from growing up in a rural area, but if you have an animal that's a nuisance, you just shoot it. It's not a big deal at all. Feral cat attacking some of your own domestic cats, for example, shoot it. Or a coyote attacking livestock, shoot it, problem solved. I mean shit it's not like they're endangered species, sometimes the department of wildlife will even encourage hunting of species like this because their population has been unchecked and a quick death from a rifle is actually more humane that starvation and other "natural" means of population control.

except our members are just shooting things that came their way.

Someone mentioned cougars in this thread I believe. Down here in Florida our Panther is endangered yet every once in a while some asshat makes the news shooting one when they left an animal carcass or open garbage in their yard.

If you are going to invade an animal's territory you need to respect that.

All that said, we are heading directly towards destroying our world because we don't want to live in harmony with anything else.

We want:

6am: wake up
: pee
: check email
: check news/weather
: get ready
8am: leave for work
: drive 50-60 in your neighborhood 30mph posted zone because your time is more valuable.
: nearly run down some guy walking his dog, blow horn for effect.
: repeat for 6 kids walking to the bus stop.
: stop by local coffee shop.
: spin your tires in reverse and almost hit old lady. Yell at her to start her day after 9am. (later on bitch at that same old lady getting a panini at noon).
9am--12pm: check email, check facebook, check myspace, get more coffee....bitch how the office coffee is nothing like starbucks even after they installed a Keurig or other uber rig. Burn your toast in the oven. Tell those that ran to the kitchen to see what was burning to "Mind your own damn business!!!!"

Lunch!

fast forward 40 years

8am: leave for coffee
: drive 10-20mph in your neighborhood 30mph posted zone because "you know this is the safe speed, why don't they!"
: nearly run down some guy walking his dog, blow horn for effect.
: repeat for 6 kids walking to the bus stop.
: stop by local coffee shop.
: reverse and almost hit some young lady with her 2 rugrats. Yell at her to get a job!


etc
 

frostedflakes

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
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except our members are just shooting things that came their way.

Someone mentioned cougars in this thread I believe. Down here in Florida our Panther is endangered yet every once in a while some asshat makes the news shooting one when they left an animal carcass or open garbage in their yard.

If you are going to invade an animal's territory you need to respect that.

All that said, we are heading directly towards destroying our world because we don't want to live in harmony with anything else.

We want:

6am: wake up
: pee
: check email
: check news/weather
: get ready
8am: leave for work
: drive 50-60 in your neighborhood 30mph posted zone because your time is more valuable.
: nearly run down some guy walking his dog, blow horn for effect.
: repeat for 6 kids walking to the bus stop.
: stop by local coffee shop.
: spin your tires in reverse and almost hit old lady. Yell at her to start her day after 9am. (later on bitch at that same old lady getting a panini at noon).
9am--12pm: check email, check facebook, check myspace, get more coffee....bitch how the office coffee is nothing like starbucks even after they installed a Keurig or other uber rig. Burn your toast in the oven. Tell those that ran to the kitchen to see what was burning to "Mind your own damn business!!!!"

Lunch!

fast forward 40 years

8am: leave for coffee
: drive 10-20mph in your neighborhood 30mph posted zone because "you know this is the safe speed, why don't they!"
: nearly run down some guy walking his dog, blow horn for effect.
: repeat for 6 kids walking to the bus stop.
: stop by local coffee shop.
: reverse and almost hit some young lady with her 2 rugrats. Yell at her to get a job!


etc
OP's case was helping out a neighbor, who has had problems with pets and livestock disappearing, probably due to coyotes.

I'm not necessarily condoning what others in the thread have done. Shooting any endangered species without a valid reason (such as self defense from an attack) is obviously pretty stupid. And I don't disagree with you that taking reasonable measures (such as not leaving open trash in your yard) to avoid attracting wild animals is something that should probably be done before taking other action. But in rural areas especially that isn't always enough to keep them away. We certainly don't have trash or carcasses lying around our lawn, and it isn't uncommon to hear coyotes howling not far outside the house late at night. Sometimes they just wander close to where people live.
 
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Dr. Zaus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2008
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Outraged over the ending of a life that was going to end someday anyway?

Outrageous!

WE are nothing, nothing matters, murder, hope, love, death: just words we use to describe the transitory movement of energy.

Nothing matters; why get up in arms about getting up in arms?
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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You guys that have to shoot animals for no reason probably answered you sit down to pee in the other thread.
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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If a K9 comes and eats my neighbors chickens, I will be the first one to stab the bitch to death. One quick slice through its neck. It'll be painless. How dare they feast on chickens!
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the OP loves nascar just as much as he loves hunting critters. OP will deny it cause I'm calling him out on it but I know it without a doubt. I know his type all too well. Grew up in Texas all my life.

lol who's the white trash redneck, an uneducated douchebag internet armchair general loliberal who thinks he's smart because he can read Paul Krugman and looks down on hunting while living on the left coast (hell in Texas no less!), or a guy who knows have to shoot a rifle from a distance and has the knowledge and instinct to calculate and take a shot and take down his target in a short period of time?
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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Controlled burns are still mankind playing God.

I hate this idiotic saying I hear people spout off all the time. "Playing God." Don't flatter yourself sir. You are woefully unqualified. You could no more play God than an ant can play brain surgeon. Heck you can barely play human of average intelligence never mind God.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
Oct 17, 2010
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I hate this idiotic saying I hear people spout off all the time. "Playing God." Don't flatter yourself sir. You are woefully unqualified. You could no more play God than an ant can play brain surgeon. Heck you can barely play human of average intelligence never mind God.

I disagree, I exist so I'm already one up on God...
 
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