I shot the neighborhood K9 this morning... Cautionary PIC inside.

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Right, wild animals kill for no reason. Generally we are the only wild animals that kill for no good reason.

Actually cats are probably the single biggest (by numbers) killing machines on the planet. And many of their kills are "because they can". They rarely eat what they kill.
 

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i hope you have a DoW tag for the cougar, and im fairly certain hunting wolves (and endangered spices) is prison time. Plus the crap you said about the radio collar is just over the top. you are the type of person the anti hunting crew in this thread should be flaming. it would be fun to find out where you live and forward this info to your Dept of Wildlife for possible poaching activities.

**Edit: your propping of dead animals in yards to freak out your neighbors is unsportsmanlike and just plain disgusting. You sir are a nitwit and i really hope the DoW investigates you and confiscates your vehicles, guns and throws your ass in prison.

He has been called out many times in this thread. I am a firm believer in karma...his actions won't go unpunished for long.
 
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Actually cats are probably the single biggest (by numbers) killing machines on the planet. And many of their kills are "because they can". They rarely eat what they kill.

Domestic cats? That's because we have removed the need to kill by providing them with food, that does not, however, eliminate the killer instinct. Not the same as a wild animal out in the world having to kill to survive.

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That's a legal right, I wasn't talking about legality, but ethically. Legally you can do al sorts of crazy bollocks, that doesn't make it acceptable.


Ethically he had the right also. If you eat meat, you helping to sustain a business that exists just to kill animals. Chances are that animals have been displaced and killed in creating the power that is used to post on the internet or heat your home. Hell, even if you are a strict vegan, do you have the 'right' to kills plants to eat? Where does it end? Other animals kill, not just for food, but kills pests as well. Wolves will kill coyotes that are found in their territory, as an example. The OP may have used very human means to kill a pest, but really he didn't do anything that doesn't happen every day in nature already.
 

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We have some pretty domesticated coyotes here in the city. I worked on a golf course for a several years and there were a few families living just off the course in the woods. They'd wander on the course to eat berries from the bushes and just wander around. The puppies were pretty cute and liked playing in the sand traps.

They were very docile. No one ever fed them or tried to touch them, but they never approached anyone too closely either. When I was going around the course in the morning a curious one or two would often follow me around, about 20 yards back. One time, one even stared at me and shat on the green right in front of me, then trotted off.

Occasionally they'd get someone's pet mini poodle or shitzu or something, and cats went missing on occasion too.

Yes, they were pretty mangey looking in the summer, but got nice full coats by winter time.
 

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Domestic cats? That's because we have removed the need to kill by providing them with food, that does not, however, eliminate the killer instinct. Not the same as a wild animal out in the world having to kill to survive.

KT

Feral(by definition, wild) cat populations are destroying the songbird numbers in some areas. And they aren't killing just to eat. Cats domesticated or wild exist to kill shit. And eat some of it.
 

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Ethically he had the right also. If you eat meat, you helping to sustain a business that exists just to kill animals. Chances are that animals have been displaced and killed in creating the power that is used to post on the internet or heat your home. Hell, even if you are a strict vegan, do you have the 'right' to kills plants to eat? Where does it end? Other animals kill, not just for food, but kills pests as well. Wolves will kill coyotes that are found in their territory, as an example. The OP may have used very human means to kill a pest, but really he didn't do anything that doesn't happen every day in nature already.

A valid point, However personally I don't believe that individuals should go around killing animals for no good reason, killing animals to eat is different.
 

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A valid point, However personally I don't believe that individuals should go around killing animals for no good reason, killing animals to eat is different.

Then please start eating every mosquito you swat or spider you step on. Fairs fair right?
 

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Good shoot on the coyote, now go out and try to kill as many of them as you can.

Its fun to shoot them this time of year, and local farmers and ranchers just love for you do do it on their property (though I typically go to BLM land around here).

I am always hopeful that a cougar will come into my electronic call, but most of the time I just get the retarded coyotes.

I would love to see a really big wol...I mean coyote come into my crosshairs one day, a whole pack preferably. If they have radio collars, I will just have to make sure it gets thrown on a train or something going through, so it can appear it is migrating.

My cougar/coyote gun is a Savage .243/12ga combo over/under. If they come in real close I will use the 12ga barrel, but most of the time I am shooting the .243 with handloaded 55g Nosler Ballistic Tips.


If it is real cold outside, you can prop them up to freak out neighbors, like a friend and I did at his place one winter on a 20 below zero day -

See a psychiatrist. You're not a hunter but a sociopath who gives all sportsman a bad name.
 

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A valid point, However personally I don't believe that individuals should go around killing animals for no good reason, killing animals to eat is different.

It's pretty obvious you're a city boy.

You would be amazed how many different insects, mice, rats, birds, coyotes, and other vermin that were killed when I was growing up, but I guess it would have been better to let the crops and livestock get eaten .
 

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Feral(by definition, wild) cat populations are destroying the songbird numbers in some areas. And they aren't killing just to eat. Cats domesticated or wild exist to kill shit. And eat some of it.

Heh, I know what feral means, thanks man.

I don't know, I have not seen that anywhere. Most wild animals kill out of need (whether food or self defense or whatever) but I'll have to take your word on what you are saying as I have not encountered it.

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Unless its in self defense its not.

Really, stop, you have no idea what you're talking about. Every coyote I see near the cabin catches a bullet, we are over populated with them, they're killing livestock, game, and pets.

They are pests, we dispatch them to a reasonable number, that's life. Deal with it.
 

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yeah, you're an ignorant douchenozzle.

game hunting is one thing. legal bounty hunting is just fine, of course.

but setting up an electric perimeter around your house to lure in critters just so you can pop them from your bedroom window to get your dumb redneck rocks off is the epitome of de-volution.

also, taking out protected wolves and destroying the evidence in a "fuck you" sort of glee places you just south of Michael Vick in the human chart of scummy dickscarves.
 

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See a psychiatrist. You're not a hunter but a sociopath who gives all sportsman a bad name.

exactly. 90% of his threads are "look at this critter I killed!" He's posted pics of how he's posed his "kills" (squirrels, iirc) before.

This guy has repeatedly expressed that he simply likes to kill--not out of use or necessity.
 

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exactly. 90% of his threads are "look at this critter I killed!" He's posted pics of how he's posed his "kills" (squirrels, iirc) before.

This guy has repeatedly expressed that he simply likes to kill--not out of use or necessity.

He's also admitting to a felony, the mods need to report him.

Edit, re-read his post, hasn't admitted to anything, bummer.
 
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exactly. 90% of his threads are "look at this critter I killed!" He's posted pics of how he's posed his "kills" (squirrels, iirc) before.

This guy has repeatedly expressed that he simply likes to kill--not out of use or necessity.

Cuntweasles like this fuckstick do more damage than any PETA nut ever could to reasonable wildlife management and the honorable sportsman who participate. I hope some mod forwards his IP to BLM/DoW to investigate his illegal and immoral activities he describes.
 

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I don't know, I have not seen that anywhere. Most wild animals kill out of need (whether food or self defense or whatever) but I'll have to take your word on what you are saying as I have not encountered it.

I'm trying to find it, but I swear I read a study from Wisconsin dealing with their feral cat population. In that I think they tracked a cat over a couple year period and killed over 48,000 birds and mice. It was crazy.
 

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I'm trying to find it, but I swear I read a study from Wisconsin dealing with their feral cat population. In that I think they tracked a cat over a couple year period and killed over 48,000 birds and mice. It was crazy.

You sure that wasn't Iowa?
 

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You sure that wasn't Iowa?

I was pretty sure it was WI because you guys were mulling over the idea of an "open season" on feral cats a few years back and that was one of the studies they used "for" the argument to hunt them.

It might have been an article in a Fur, Fish and Game that my Dad had...I can't seem to find it anywhere online.
 

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Cuntweasles like this fuckstick do more damage than any PETA nut ever could to reasonable wildlife management and the honorable sportsman who participate. I hope some mod forwards his IP to BLM/DoW to investigate his illegal and immoral activities he describes.

I messaged the mods this morning to do exactly that.
 

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Have them check the stop signs by his house too.


Just some basics from someone who has had a lifetime hunting and fishing license since I was 7 and everyone I know observes these rules.

Hunt and fish only whats in season with proper armament, no deer hunting with a 22!
Killing pests is okay if they are causing you economic damage for sport delves into sociopath behavior
Otherwise you should only kill what you eat and of course observe limits biologists have set.
And kill fast and painless as possible. Wounded birds? tear off head. Wouldned deer. Kill it.
Can't find deer? I don't care if it takes you all day it's your obligation to not let animal suffer for weeks in woods. Find it.
 
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And? I wouldn't care if he buttfucked the corpse and posted here to brag about it, he's doing all of us a favor by killing pests.

A coyote is not a pest necessarily.

The guy bragging about attracting cougars is definitely going over the line. He's posted crap like this before...somehow I think he thinks it makes him more "USMC". Arranging kills in a front yard is psychopathic and very unsportsmanlike. He probably shoots to maim and lets them die out in the wild.

Just like people think cats are fair game. A feral cat is usually only part of those rules and only if being a pest. You shoot someone's pet, that is a crime.
 
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