I solemnly admit my defeat...

[johnjohn320]

I'm meeting with my counselor tomorrow morning to discuss dropping Physics AP at the semester. I'm not really sure what compelled me to take it, I'm going to be a music major next year, so I have no real practical use for it. I liked physics last year, and thought what the heck, I'll take the 2-hour AP course this year. Big mistake. I'm getting pwned, big time.

I tried, I really tried. I've studied probably twice as much for this class as I have for all the rest of my classes combined. I'm pretty much a straight A student otherwise, but I'm hovering between a low C and a high D in this class.

You win, physics. You win.

 

[Electric Amish]

I love physics.....if only there was some money in it.

 

[CarlKillerMiller]

I'm taking it now, and I agree, it's a tough course.

ESPECIALLY newtonian physics

 

[Platypus]

Grades are nothing but a number (or a letter in some cases). Don't let it get you down, it doesn't reflect the kind of person you are, or how much you know.

 

[johnjohn320]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Grades are nothing but a number (or a letter in some cases). Don't let it get you down, it doesn't reflect the kind of person you are, or how much you know.

I know, and like I said, I'm going into a music major, no college is gonna give half a damn at how good of a science student I am. I guess I'm just disappointed, cause I worked so hard and just couldn't make it happen. I can't help but feel like I'm not getting something that I should. Oh well.

 

[Darien]

Originally posted by: Chraticn
I'm taking it now, and I agree, it's a tough course.

ESPECIALLY newtonian physics

Do you mean classical mechanics or solving problems via the newtonian way?

Lagrangians simplify a lot when you do messy problems.



EDIT: said something different -- I get names of techniques mixed up often

 

[Darien]

Originally posted by: johnjohn320

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Grades are nothing but a number (or a letter in some cases). Don't let it get you down, it doesn't reflect the kind of person you are, or how much you know.

I know, and like I said, I'm going into a music major, no college is gonna give half a damn at how good of a science student I am. I guess I'm just disappointed, cause I worked so hard and just couldn't make it happen. I can't help but feel like I'm not getting something that I should. Oh well.

Physics is one of those things that not everyone can do, mad studying or not. I should know, as I just bombed my mechanics final

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: Darien

Originally posted by: Chraticn
I'm taking it now, and I agree, it's a tough course.

ESPECIALLY newtonian physics

Do you mean classical mechanics or solving problems via the newtonian way?

Lagrange multipliers simplify a lot when you do messy problems.

hhahahaha you think he has any idea what a langrange multiplier is?

i garuntee hes talking about plain jane non-calculas based kinematics

 

[johnjohn320]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Darien

Originally posted by: Chraticn
I'm taking it now, and I agree, it's a tough course.

ESPECIALLY newtonian physics

Do you mean classical mechanics or solving problems via the newtonian way?

Lagrange multipliers simplify a lot when you do messy problems.

hhahahaha you think he has any idea what a langrange multiplier is?

i garuntee hes talking about plain jane non-calculas based kinematics

You "garuntee" it, eh? At least I'm still getting an A in English... hehe. But you're right, I have no idea what he's talking about. We've used calculus, but it's hardly calculus-based.

 

[Legendary]

Physics B or C? If C, mechanics, E&M or both?

 

[Darien]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Darien

Originally posted by: Chraticn
I'm taking it now, and I agree, it's a tough course.

ESPECIALLY newtonian physics

Do you mean classical mechanics or solving problems via the newtonian way?

Lagrange multipliers simplify a lot when you do messy problems.

hhahahaha you think he has any idea what a langrange multiplier is?

i garuntee hes talking about plain jane non-calculas based kinematics

mmm woops. I meant to say lagragians. lagrange multipliers are a completely different beast, but they have their uses .

Though, can't use lagrangians without calculus either.

>me shudders at non-calculus kinematics.<

long live the lagrangian way of doing things!

 

[yellowperil]

Aren't there physics involved with studying sound waves and harmonics and whatnot? Just looking for the silver lining

 

[EmperorIQ]

i got pwned my first quarter of physics, ended up with a C- (f = ma stuff)
2nd quarter i failed midterm, got 3rd highest on 2nd midterm and B+ on final, ended up with a B- (oscillations, waves, electromagnetics, etc.)
third quarter i got B (use vector calculus to calculate electromagnetic waves)
and finally i ended with B+ (fermi energy, semi conductors, etc.)

just keep going at it dude, don't give up if you enjoy it\!

 

[notfred]

You're dropping a class that you might be getting a C in? It's easy to see why you're a straight A student if you run away and hide whenever anything gets hard. You're not even failing.

 

[ViperMagic]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I love physics.....if only there was some money in it.

Its one of the highest paid professions in the country, i belive

 

[Darien]

Originally posted by: ViperMagic

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I love physics.....if only there was some money in it.

Its one of the highest paid professions in the country, i belive

Physics majors make more than the average person, but there's a lot more money in other professions (engineering, law, medicine, business, pharmacy to name a few)

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Darien

Originally posted by: ViperMagic

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I love physics.....if only there was some money in it.

Its one of the highest paid professions in the country, i belive

Physics majors make more than the average person, but there's a lot more money in other professions (engineering, law, medicine, business, pharmacy to name a few)

Tons of physicists go into engineering...

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: notfred
You're dropping a class that you might be getting a C in? It's easy to see why you're a straight A student if you run away and hide whenever anything gets hard. You're not even failing.

That a good point. John, have you thought about putting in more time on the weekends for studying physics? Its tough, but it can be accomplished, each person just has their own learning time. Oh yeah, many book authors have a website with practice quizzes, tests, experiments, etc. Try those out and try to improve what you have to a C.

 

[johnjohn320]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga

Originally posted by: notfred
You're dropping a class that you might be getting a C in? It's easy to see why you're a straight A student if you run away and hide whenever anything gets hard. You're not even failing.

That a good point. John, have you thought about putting in more time on the weekends for studying physics? Its tough, but it can be accomplished, each person just has their own learning time. Oh yeah, many book authors have a website with practice quizzes, tests, experiments, etc. Try those out and try to improve what you have to a C.

First off, I'm not getting a C. I have a high D right now, and I failed a test today, so it's only getting worse. I'm not "runinng away from something difficult", I've taken plenty of AP courses in the past that were hard for me, and stuck it out. I can't make this one happen. AgaBooga, trust me, I've examined every alternative. I've spent a lot of time on those practice quizzes, gone in before and after school to get extra help from the teacher on a regular basis, I study the stuff CONSTANTLY (not just when I have a test coming up).

While preparing for college auditions, I just can't get this class to work. My parents are ok with it, they know I've been working really hard, trying to make it work.

 

[MisterPants]

Can you suggest a book for Lagrangian/Hamiltonian Classical Mechanics?

 

[Darien]

Originally posted by: MisterPants
Can you suggest a book for Lagrangian/Hamiltonian Classical Mechanics?

Depends on how much math and what level of physics you're comfortable with.



The one I used for my classical mechanics class was Mechanics by Symon. It's rather wordy. The department here seems to like those kinds of books. (My first quantum course used Eisberg and Resnik. Very wordy)

Goldstein is generally considered to be the standard, but you really should be comfortable with math for it.

 

[jmcoreymv]

What is the idea behind using Lagrangian (sp)? I have no idea what it is and Im interested in it, Im taking modern physics in the spring and I think thats part of it.

 

[Deeko]

ouch.

 

[tennisflip]

Physics is the antichrist.

 

[Coquito]

I remember back in hs; getting great grades in ap classes. Then this thing in 10th grade called chemistry hit me. WTF was this?!?! Math? Math was 2nd period, it's already past lunch. This can't be right.

Physics was optional; so was forensics. I would of at least liked to have tried my hands at the second, but none was available to me because I haden't gotten past this math class called chemistry.


Best of luck in music John.