Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
im just saying tradition has nothing to do with it
traditionalism vs. secularism; Do we have a right to have and vote on views that disagree with a purely secular agenda?
YOU MEAN AGREE WITH A PERFECTLY RELIGIOUS AGENDA I.E. CAST A BIGOTED VOTE OR TRY TO PASS BIGOTED LAW. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRY AND THEN THAT MEAN NASTY PROACTIVE SUPREME COURT WILL STEP IN AND TELL YOU YOU VOTED UNCONSTITUTIONALLY FOR BIGOTRY AND YOU MUST TURN THE AMERICA INTO AFGHANISTAN FOR YOUR VOTE TO BECOME LAW. AFTER YOU DESTROY OUR WAY OF GOVERNMENT, THEN YOU CAN VOTE TO BAN GAYS AND STONE THEM TO DEATH TOO, WHICH YOU WILL BECAUSE YOU NO NOT YOUR OWN EVIL.
It's not an 'American ideal' to expand the powers of the government to approve of more activities, especially unethical activities.
IT IS THE AMERICAN WAY TO DO EXACTLY THAT. THAT IS HOW WE HAVE EVOLVED FORM A BACKWARD BIGOTED SLAVE HOLDING, NO WOMEN VOTING, DENY GAY PEOPLE EQUAL RIGHTS, TO THE FINER MORE MORAL NATION WE ARE TODAY AND WE HAD TO DO IT AGAINST BIGOTS LIKE YOU AT EVERY TURN WHO HAD AS THEIR ONLY ARGUMENT A FEELING THAT SLAVES WOMEN AND GAYS ARE INFERIOR TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE BIGOTRY IN THE BIBLE AND OTHER TRADITIONAL SO CALLED RELIGIOUS ETHICS.
You understand the government-involvement expansionary effects that such expansion of government power would have across the board, right? much like other countries that have done this the meaning of marriage will decay.
NO MORE THAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT STATEMENT TO BE BIGOTED FOOLISHNESS UTTERED AS TRUTH WITHOUT THE SLIGHTEST REFERENCE IN FACT TO REALITY. YOU ARE A BIGOTED FEAR MONGER TRYING TO SELL YOUR PARANOID FEAR STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF YOUR STOMACH. SEE A DOCTOR, A PSYCHIATRIST. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. YOUR BIGOTRY ISA A BLINDNESS. YOU CAN'T SELL IT TO PEOPLE WHO CAN SEE.
you think government should take a paternalistic posture. I don't, under ANY circumstances.
then why do you argue for the expansion of the role of government?
HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE EXPANSIONIST HORSE CRAP THAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN LIFE. WE ARE NOT THE TALIBAN YOU WANT US TO BE. WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MORE THE GOVERNMENT PREVENTS BIGOTS LIKE YOU FROM DETERMINING WHAT OUR LAWS MEAN THE FREER WE WILL ALL BE.
Why did the government expand itself and approve of black people being freed as slaves.
because slavery is unethical, such that many where willing to die to change the situation.
BUT THE BIGOTS LIKE YOU SAID IT WAS ETHICAL TO HOLD SLAVES. THEY SAID THE GOVERNMENT WAS EXPANDING ITSELF TO LEGISLATE LAWS THAT WERE UNPOPULAR AND UNETHICAL TO THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD DISRUPT SOCIETY AND RUIN THE ECONOMY AND LET THE DEVIL LOOSE ON THE LAND. THOSE BIGOTS WERE EXACTLY LIKE YOU AND HAD TO BE ROLLED OVER WITH GUNS. THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN AGAIN WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU NOW. THE NEANDERTHALS IN A FREE SOCIETY GO EXTINCT. YOU ARE A RACIST BIGOT TURNED HOMOPHOBE. THERE ISN'T A DIMES WORTH OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EVILS THEY SOUGHT TO PRESERVE IN SOCIETY AND THE EVIL YOU SEEK TO PRESERVE. YOU ARE MENTALLY SICK IN THE HEAD, INFECTED WITH RELIGIOUSLY INSPIRED BIGOTED HATE WHICH IN YOUR PSYCHOTIC DELUSION YOU CALL LOVE FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN, AND PROTECTING US FROM THE HORRIBLE MONSTERS THAT LIVE IN THE PIT OF YOUR STOMACH READY TO EAT THE WORLD. YOU ARE TRAPPED IN AN ENDLESS CIRCULAR LIE THAT BEGINS AND ENDS WITH YOUR FEAR. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU HAVE A GAY KID WHO INVITES YOU TO HIS OR HER WEDDING, EXCEPT FOR THE PITY WE'D HAVE TO EXTEND TO THE KID FOR HAVING A FATHER WHOSE A BIGOT WHOSE SO PROUD OF HIS BIGOTRY HE COULDN'T GO TO THE WEDDING.
debunked again and again,
my support is un-failing, my response to your mindless stereotyping is without hole; that you yell bigot consistently doesn't make you right.
I KNOW, YOU ARE A BULLET PROOF BIGOT LIVING IN AN AIR TIGHT DELUSION. YOU HAVE YOUR FEAR IN YOUR STOMACH, YOUR HIDEOUS ARROGANCE THAT YOU LOVE YOUR FELLOW GAY, AND A BIBLE WRITTEN BY BIGOTS THAT SAYS BIGOTRY IS THE ONLY TRUTH. AND NOW THAT FALSE PART OF THE BIBLE IS YOU, THE LIVING WALKING TRUTH THAT GAYNESS IS UNETHICAL BECAUSE YOU SAY IT IS AND AMERICA ISN'T AMERICA BECAUSE YOU SAY IT ISN'T. YOU ARE A WALKING LIVING BREATHING LUNATIC, A BIGOT INCARNATE. AND YOU ARE EVIL BECAUSE YOU CALL OTHERS EVIL ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE INSANE. THE DEVIL HAS GOT YOU GOOD MY FRIEND. HE IS VERY VERY TRICKY. HE TELLS YOU THAT GOD IS A BIGOT AND THEN HE HAS YOU EATING FROM HIS HAND.
Why do you sh!t on gays? Is it so you will go to heaven? Gay bash them in a pile so you can walk up their bodies like a stair?
What's bigoted about wanting it to be a states-rights issue? and God loves us all equally, you, me, homosexuals, and mass-murderers; he wants all of us to spend every day working toward his righteousness, and it's not for any man to judge another's walk.
YOU DO NOTHING BUT JUDGE ANOTHER'S WALK WHEN YOU SAY GAY SEX IS UNETHICAL AND GAY MARRIAGE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED. YOU ARE JUDGE JURY AND VERDICT ALL ROLLED UP IN ONE. YOU JUDGE YOURSELF WHEN YOU TRY TO DUMP YOUR BIGOTED CRAP INTO LAW. YOU BECOME A TOOL OF EVIL.
LMK, tell exactly what in your life will be damaged or injured by allowing same-sex marriages.
marriage between a brother and sister doesn't directly damage or injure me, should we allow it? There are things greater than the 'virtue' of selfishness to be taken into account; Have you no empathy? Have you no love for your fellow man? Why would you want to encourage and approve of people to destroying themselves?
YOU BIGOTED ASS THE DESTROY THEMSELVES IN YOUR MIND. TO BE MARRIED IN A LOVING RELATIONSHIP COMMITTED BEFORE ALL IS GOOD. YOU ARE DESTROYING YOURSELF WITH YOUR BIGOTRY AND DUPLICITOUS LIES. AND YOU SEEK TO DESTROY THE AMERICAN WAY THAT PROTECTS PEOPLES FREEDOM WITH JUSTICE AND TRUTH IN LAW.
When the meaning of marriage decays
THE DECAY IS YOUR BIGOTRY THINKING THE FEAR IN YOUR STOMACH WILL RISE AND CONSUME THE WORLD. YOU ARE ONLY MENTALLY ILL AND HAVING A BAD HAIR DAY. THE DECAY IS A REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT YOUR MORALITY HAS BEEN REPLACED BY BIGOTRY AND YOU FEAR THE WORLD WILL BECOME AS SICK AS YOU. DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY, RELAX, GOD LOVES GAY SEX OR HE WOULDN'T HAVE CREATED GAYS. I KNOW THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE IT SAY SO IN THE JOURNAL OF PSYCHIATRY AND THEY ARE NEVER WRONG. IT SAYS SO IN THE JOURNAL. to a social institution that has little to no meaning at all,
AND YOU WANT TO GIVE IT LESS BY PASSING BIGOTED LAW THAT EXCLUDES GAYS BECAUSE GAYS ARE EVIL, DESTRUCTIVE AND GET SICK AND OTHER VARIOUS HORSE POO.
then you stop you encouragement for heterosexual monogamy,
HEHE, LIKE PEOPLE ARE REALLY QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT TO GET OR TO STAY MARRIED AS THE CASE MAY BE BECAUSE SOMEBODY IN SAN FRANCISCO JUST MARRIED SOMEBODY OF THE SAME SEX. THE ONLY THOUGHT I HAVE, BEING THE BETTER CHRISTIAN THAT I AM IS I WISH THEM ALL THE BEST IN LONG LIFE AND GOOD LUCK AND MAY THEY LIVE FOREVER TOGETHER IN HEAVEN, NO. OF COURSE YOU ARE THE ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT REAL LOVE IS CAUSE YOU HAVE A BOOK AND ALL I GOT IS MY HEART THAT CRIES FRO THE EVIL HYPOCRITES LIKE YOU BRING TO THE WORLD.
have a higher divorce rate, more children from broken homes, more children who grow up in poverty, and more children that are a blight instead of a boon.
THAT'S RIGHT LET THAT DEVIL MANIPULATE YOUR FEAR AND SPEW FORTH YOUR JUDGMENTALISM AND PHONY LIES ABOUT THE DISASTER GOING ON IN THE PIT OF YOUR STOMACH. THE DEVIL HAS HIS HAND UP YOUR ASS AND IS MOVING YOUR LIPS. TALK ABOUT GAY SEX.
When medical costs and supply's are less we pay more for everything from a doctors visit to car insurance. When premarital sex increases we have higher teen pregnancy, again with children born poor and without a stable home. you can call any fact i put fort 'BS' but I've supplied resources you are welcome to look up for yourself. Expanding government to approve of activity that hurts the vast majority of people is irrational and the
WHAT IS IRRATIONAL IS YOUR NUT CASE UNSUBSTANTIATED FEAR. YOU FEAR BECAUSE YOU ARE STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF HELL SEEING ALL AROUND YOU YOUR OWN FEAR AND BIGOTRY.
antithesis of 'providing for the common welfare' as defined in the constitution.
ANTITHESIS AS SELF DEFINED BY YOU STRAIGHT OUT OF THE DEVIL'S MOUTH. Doing it by the judiciary instead of our elected legislature is nothing less than un-elected
judicial tyranny.