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ivwshane

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Just because Trump is terrible doesn’t automatically make anyone running against him great. Sure Joe is better than Trump but that’s literally the worlds smallest compliment. “Better than Trump” isn’t the metric we should be looking for here, but rather “better than the other Democratic candidates.” Anyone who says that Biden is better than all the other Democratic candidates is either a fool or lying. It’s probably more accurate to say that he’s in the bottom tier of Dem candidates.

Actually because trump is terrible it does make pretty much anyone running against him great (of the Democrat candidates).
 

glenn1

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Actually because trump is terrible it does make pretty much anyone running against him great (of the Democrat candidates).

<shrug> I don’t see Biden as being “great.” Just because soured milk is better than radioactive waste It doesn’t mean either is good.
 

kage69

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Just because Trump is terrible doesn’t automatically make anyone running against him great. Sure Joe is better than Trump but that’s literally the worlds smallest compliment. “Better than Trump” isn’t the metric we should be looking for here, but rather “better than the other Democratic candidates.” Anyone who says that Biden is better than all the other Democratic candidates is either a fool or lying. It’s probably more accurate to say that he’s in the bottom tier of Dem candidates.

Please refer to my earlier post. This is not about politics, this is about saving our way of life and our democracy from a criminal. Period.

Come to think of it, why don't you go read the whole damn thread again and maybe a few others. I think you'll find no shortage of people saying Joe is not their first choice, but that even he is preferable to the traitorous disaster we have now.

If you can't comprehend this, then you are no better than Team Treason yourself and I don't think pretending that others claim Joe Biden to be the best choice is going to change anyone's perspective. Straw is pretty common around here.
 

glenn1

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Please refer to my earlier post. This is not about politics, this is about saving our way of life and our democracy from a criminal. Period.

Come to think of it, why don't you go read the whole damn thread again and maybe a few others. I think you'll find no shortage of people saying Joe is not their first choice, but that even he is preferable to the traitorous disaster we have now.

If you can't comprehend this, then you are no better than Team Treason yourself and I don't think pretending that others claim Joe Biden to be the best choice is going to change anyone's perspective. Straw is pretty common around here.

<shrug> If Dems pick Biden then you deserve what you get.
 

kage69

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<shrug> If Dems pick Biden then you deserve what you get.

Wanting Trump out of the office he is unfit for doesn't make me a Dem, nor does voting for Biden or any other Democrat nominee, sorry.

I think all Americans, regardless of political outlook, even the idiots who voted for him, deserve a president who isn't beholden to Vladimir Putin, one who has an appropriate amount of respect for the Constitution and the rule of law.

Trump obviously doesn't qualify. This has gone beyond politics. If you think he's fit for office, well as I've said, there's something wrong with you. Don't worry about the Dems, worry about the traitors trying to destroy the rule of law at home while trying to start elective wars abroad. Sorry, Biden antipathy doesn't convince me of anything. In the age of Trump, Biden's shortcomings are inconsequential. Let me know when he becomes a Russian asset with a history of pissing on the Constitution and sexual assault.
 
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glenn1

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I'd say Americans, regardless of political outlook, deserve a president who isn't beholden to Vladimir Putin, one who has an appropriate amount of respect for the Constitution and the rule of law.

Trump obviously doesn't qualify. If you think he's fit for office, well as I've said, there's something wrong with you. Don't worry about the Dems, worry about the traitors trying to destroy the rule of law at home while trying to start elective wars abroad. Sorry, antipathy doesn't convince me of anything.

Holy cow is Trump making the left stupid. Do you just need people to ritually denounce Trump before you’ll turn your brain on? No one here including me has said that Biden is worse than Trump. I’m long on record here as strongly opposing Trump but that doesn’t mean that every word from my mouth doesn’t have to be talking about him.

Let’s try it again. Lets get this out of the way so your grey matter can operate - Trump is terrible and he needs to lose in 2020. Now that being said, it still does not mean that Biden among the Democratic candidates is anything but a terrible choice.
 

kage69

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Holy cow is Trump making the left stupid. Do you just need people to ritually denounce Trump before you’ll turn your brain on? No one here including me has said that Biden is worse than Trump. I’m long on record here as strongly opposing Trump but that doesn’t mean that every word from my mouth doesn’t have to be talking about him..

Are you deliberately misrepresenting what was said, or just confused to what sentiment you are responding to, I can't tell.

<shrug> I don’t see Biden as being “great.” Just because soured milk is better than radioactive waste It doesn’t mean either is good.

That was the opinion being addressed glenn. And the point is, once again, no one needs to be great to beat Trump.

"Strongly opposed" heheh no glenn I don't think you are, you have a history of BothSides! and constant spin to put Dems in a bad light. And look at this touchiness about even mentioning his name, the republican running for re-election in 2020 - in a thread about the same coming election season. Yeah some real off track stuff here glenn, we can only hope your feels will recover.
 
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glenn1

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You can't even help yourself bullshitting when doing the backpeddle, haha. You are deliberately misrepresenting what was said, just can't drop that straw can you?



Maybe less time shruggin and more time following the point glenn?

You must be stupid. Let me try it again. In the post you quoted Trump is the what I said is radioactive and Biden is the spoiled milk.

Yes I think Biden is terrible. And I think Trump is worse but that still does not make Biden good. It will never make Biden good even if he is the nominee. A Biden presidency would be better than a Trump presidency but worse than almost every other democratic alternative.

You need to turn your brain back on because Trump is making you stupid.
 

kage69

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Ignore bolded portions added for emphasis, act indignant, lather rinse repeat, that's about it from you I guess. Ok.

At least you're over the anguish of seeing Trumps name now. Little steps there glenn.
 

glenn1

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Ignore bolded portions added for emphasis, act indignant, lather rinse repeat, that's about it from you I guess. Ok.

At least you're over the anguish of seeing Trumps name now. Little steps there glenn.

OK you win. Biden is the greatest candidate ever and you should totally nominate him. Everyone else on the Dem side is totally inferior. We’ll have to carve George Washington’s face off Mt. Rushmore to put Biden up instead. Literally the only reason I said he was bad is because I’m trying to reverse psychology Democrats into not nominating him because I know he’s the only Democrat who is better than Trump.
 

kage69

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OK you win. Biden is the greatest candidate ever and you should totally nominate him. Everyone else on the Dem side is totally inferior. We’ll have to carve George Washington’s face off Mt. Rushmore to put Biden up instead. Literally the only reason I said he was bad is because I’m trying to reverse psychology Democrats into not nominating him because I know he’s the only Democrat who is better than Trump.

*sigh*

This is why people think you're a joke. You only see what you want see, that and you drunk the Hillary Koolaid with a smile. Take your comprehension issue back to Page 1, post #14, and be sure to pound that Biden hyperbole back up your ass where you got it. Thanks.
 
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glenn1

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*sigh*

This is why people think you're a joke. You only see what you want see, that and you drunk the Hillary Koolaid with a smile. Take your comprehension issue back to Page 1, post #14, and be sure to pound that Biden hyperbole back up your ass where you got it. Thanks.


Yeah post 14 sure is a ringing endorsement of a “great” candidate. Especially the part about “I see more and more reasons it shouldn’t be him.”

Warren is the way to go, but I will support Biden if he gets the nomination. As time goes on, I see more and more reasons it shouldn't be him, but ultimately he is still magnitudes better than a dementia riddled criminal with a room temp IQ and dictator envy.
 

glenn1

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He's a great candidate compared to trump. This is really hard for you.

Man, if only there was someone else running that could take on Trump.

Honestly if Biden is “great” then you’ll need to invent entire new tiers of comparatives to describe the other Dem candidates. Maybe “ubersuperdoubleplusgreat” or something.
 

ivwshane

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Man, if only there was someone else running that could take on Trump.

Honestly if Biden is “great” then you’ll need to invent entire new tiers of comparatives to describe the other Dem candidates. Maybe “ubersuperdoubleplusgreat” or something.

You can run your dog for all I care and if its between trump and your dog, well, your dog is great compared to trump.

I suspect that the point thats being made here is difficult for you because deep down, you know you will be voting for trump. You along with others like you have been looking for an excuse to vote for trump. If not then it should be pretty easy to understand that anyone compared to trump is pretty great.
 

blankslate

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If he got bruised by Harris it's not going to go well


these words sum up how I saw Kamala Harris mauling Biden's campaign like a movie horror monster attacking a teenage camp victim....

https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...ond-debate-the-murder-of-joe-biden-maria.html
True to her future nickname, “The Biden Murderer,” Harris absolutely field dressed the once and forever Vice President. I am not a Harris stan, to put it mildly. I’ve spent a significant part of the past three years not being a Harris fan. So when I say that it was a pleasure to watch the Senator kneecap Biden, I’m being sincere; I think it’s the only compliment I’ve ever paid Harris. Who knew that the Senator from California was in favor of televised executions?


A joke I heard from an acquaintance about that night is "Kamala might just have to prosecute herself for the murder of Joe Biden's campaign."

I chuckled... and yes I hope his campaign is done.


Joe Biden Once Spoke At Strom Thurmond's Memorial Service. How Do People Feel About That Now?
Thurmond, who lived to 100, was “a product of his time,” Biden said in his eulogy of the South Carolina Republican who built his career on a Dixiecrat campaign for president in 1948 and on his opposition to civil rights. But Thurmond, Biden asserted, had “moved to the good side.”

Yeah if Joe Biden is right about Strom Thurmond moving to the good side I'm more attractive than Bratt Pitt, Ryan Gosling, and Bradley Cooper and each of the 2 plus women I sleep with every night (sometimes at once) all tell me so....


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Jaskalas

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Will the dear posters of P&N deride these articles as Russian propaganda, or railroad their authors the way they have Glenn1?

What statement was made, worthy of such repetitivee chewing? That the other Democrat candidates are better. That Biden is "bottom tier". I dunno about bottom.... bottom half, perhaps. He's a nice guy, just frail and with a mile long record he'll need to be agile in standing up for. Harris had a moment to prove herself a better fighter. If she continues that performance, is there any reason to nominate another?

I digress. Point is I take exception to this whole last page of "discussion" where a single poster is being railroaded for saying the exact same thing everyone else is saying. From this and other topics, some of you are quickly climbing my list of favorite thread shitters. Have you no sense about you?
 

kage69

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Yeah post 14 sure is a ringing endorsement of a “great” candidate. Especially the part about “I see more and more reasons it shouldn’t be him.”

Very good glenn, now apply that to post #187 and you've finally figured out how stupid you sound acting like I and others just love Joe Biden. Atta boy. All it took was having it spelled out for you repeatedly, multiple attempts of processing it, then having to be directed right to my initial post for it to truly sink in. You are as dumb as you accuse others to be, good grief and holy projecting fail Batman. Maybe next time take my advice, peruse the thread one more time, make yourself look less special in the long run.

Someone give glenn a cookie. This kind of growth deserves a reward.
 
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kage69

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these words sum up how I saw Kamala Harris mauling Biden's campaign like a movie horror monster attacking a teenage camp victim....

https://www.pastemagazine.com/artic...ond-debate-the-murder-of-joe-biden-maria.html



A joke I heard from an acquaintance about that night is "Kamala might just have to prosecute herself for the murder of Joe Biden's campaign."

I chuckled... and yes I hope his campaign is done.


Joe Biden Once Spoke At Strom Thurmond's Memorial Service. How Do People Feel About That Now?


Yeah if Joe Biden is right about Strom Thurmond moving to the good side I'm more attractive than Bratt Pitt, Ryan Gosling, and Bradley Cooper and each of the 2 plus women I sleep with every night (sometimes at once) all tell me so....


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"Field dressed" lol

Yeah, kinda accurate. Salwell starts up by punching an old man right in the wind pipe. Then Harris comes over and puts a loop around his ankles, begins to hoist...

Just stop Joe, this race ain't for you. If that didn't just lose you the primary already, you are close to it now.
 
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glenn1

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Very good glenn, you've finally figured out how stupid you sound insinuating that I and others just love Joe Biden. All it took was having it spelled out for you repeatedly, multiple attempts of pointing it out to you.

You are as dumb as you complain others are, good grief and holy projecting fail Batman. Please tell us you haven't procreated.

For someone who claims to not love Biden you seem to have a major issue about someone not ritualistically calling Biden "great" when Trump is mentioned first. It's like a verbal tic where in church where the pastor says "may the lord be with you" and everyone automatically answers "and also with you" on autopilot. Only it's like your call and response is like "Trump is the worst" followed by "Biden is great!" and without the response you want you jump straight to burn the heretic mode.
 

kage69

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For someone who claims to not love Biden you seem to have a major issue about someone not ritualistically calling Biden "great" when Trump is mentioned first. It's like a verbal tic where in church where the pastor says "may the lord be with you" and everyone automatically answers "and also with you" on autopilot. Only it's like your call and response is like "Trump is the worst" followed by "Biden is great!" and without the response you want you jump straight to burn the heretic mode.

You're the only one displaying a major issue here glenn, and still projecting I might add. Your posts bear that out. It's a pity you can't swallow your pride, examine the thread in chronological order and get over your raw nerve of Trump being mentioned. Your mention of autopilot still shows you are refusing to comprehend your fail here, but whatever. While I definetely appreciate the irony it adds to the statement, ultimately my interest in holding your hand and drawing you pictures has come to an end. I think this exchange has shown me I pay your concern trolling too much notice. Maybe some sleep will help me avoid that moving forward.
 

evident

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Holy cow is Trump making the left stupid. Do you just need people to ritually denounce Trump before you’ll turn your brain on? No one here including me has said that Biden is worse than Trump. I’m long on record here as strongly opposing Trump but that doesn’t mean that every word from my mouth doesn’t have to be talking about him.

Let’s try it again. Lets get this out of the way so your grey matter can operate - Trump is terrible and he needs to lose in 2020. Now that being said, it still does not mean that Biden among the Democratic candidates is anything but a terrible choice.

seriously quit acting like you're not a trump fluffer as you've already proven over and over in other threads, specifically the citizenship question thread
 
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