I Think If A Man Never Agreed To Have A Baby With A Woman He Shouldn't Have To Pay Child Support

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Viper1j

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But if the man DID agree to have a baby I don't think he should be able to "Change his mind" and say he doesn't want to take care of the baby anymore.

If the man agrees to have a baby, that's a lifelong commitment and he can't run from it.

I think women should have to have a man sign a contract saying he would care for the baby.

What do you think?

Just find a girl that swallows.
 

emperus

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I think this whole arguments stems from the child support decisions men are getting. I also find the disjointed arguments about it pretty nutz. On one end, a lot of these men complaining will argue that a woman's place is to be the care giver and nurturer and the man the provider. Fine, let's use that narrative. So a woman does that and takes work/roles that allow her to do so. But when they divorce/have to pay child support, they are upset and then argue the woman should have made more money and been more successful like them. They they both had the same opportunities..
 

Greenman

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What’s weird is the seeming lack of realization that the child support is for the child, not the mother. You made a kid, you help support it.
Seems fair enough to me. But the issue appears to be one of choice. Man and woman have a fun night, suffer a structural failure of properly utilized safety equipment, child is produced from the catastrophic failure. Woman then has total control of the outcome and places unforeseen finical responsibility on the male. Where is his choice? Why does the male assume a minimum of eighteen years of payments for an accident?
Seems to me that what's needed here is insurance, not forced compliance with a decision that the male doesn't agree with.
 
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brycejones

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Seems fair enough to me. But the issue appears to be one of choice. Man and woman have a fun night, suffer a structural failure of properly utilized safety equipment, child is produced from the catastrophic failure. Woman then has total control of the outcome and places unforeseen finical responsibility on the male. Where is his choice? Why does the male assume a minimum of eighteen years of payments for an accident?
Seems to me that what's needed here is insurance, not forced compliance with a decision that the male doesn't agree with.

Pregnancy is a foreseeable and assumed risk of sex. The male had a choice and made it.
 

Lezunto

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If a man gets a woman pregnant and she wants to have the baby, I believe the man is partly responsible for the child's financial obligations. But so many men run from their responsibilities, monetary and emotional.

It's a touchy subject for a lot of people. But should a woman force a man to sign a contract that obligates his financial support? The document may not hold up in family courts, depending on state laws.

But judge overseeing a child support case will likely have the final say unless the parties can work out their own arrangement. No matter what, the child's wellbeing should be paramount.
 
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brycejones

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If a man gets a woman pregnant and she wants to have the baby, I believe the man is partly responsible for the child's financial obligations. But so many men run from their responsibilities, monetary and emotional.

It's a touchy subject for a lot of people. But should a woman force a man to sign a contract that obligates his financial support? The document may not hold up in family courts, depending on state laws.

But judge overseeing a child support case will likely have the final say unless the parties can work out their own arrangement. No matter what, the child's wellbeing should be paramount.

Make up your mind man.
 
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Lezunto

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I just did. I read the initial post wrong. What I believe the thread is about is a man's responsibility for an unplanned pregnancy and birth.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Seems fair enough to me. But the issue appears to be one of choice. Man and woman have a fun night, suffer a structural failure of properly utilized safety equipment, child is produced from the catastrophic failure. Woman then has total control of the outcome and places unforeseen finical responsibility on the male. Where is his choice? Why does the male assume a minimum of eighteen years of payments for an accident?
Seems to me that what's needed here is insurance, not forced compliance with a decision that the male doesn't agree with.

don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
 

Greenman

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If you thought it was tough and expensive to get car insurance for a teenager.... Yea. Good luck with that.
Think it will cost more than 18 years of child support?

I don't have any answers, but I'm not a fan of a life changing decision that you have no say in. I'm also not a fan of men abounding their children.
 
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cytg111

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Think it will cost more than 18 years of child support?

I don't have any answers, but I'm not a fan of a life changing decision that you have no say in. I'm also not a fan of men abounding their children.
You know how insurance companies make profit right?
 

DaaQ

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You guys don't think it's weird that a contract is involved when you get married, a contract for buying a house, a contract when buying a car,....but no contract involved when having a baby?
you don't accidentally buy a house, you choose to get married not accidentally say I do in front of Church or State, and last but not least you don't accidentally just end up in a contract.
 

Greenman

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You know how insurance companies make profit right?
I have medical insurance, home insurance, employee insurance, car insurance, business insurance, pet insurance, liability insurance. I think I've cracked the code on how insurances company's make money. OFF OF ME!
 
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