I this good gaming rig?

Patrickn29

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Hey I'm building this gaming pc and i wanted know if the parts are good together or do i need to change anything. I was also wondering if these parts will let games perform at 1080p 60fps.

Processor - Intel® Core™ i5-4690 Processor (4x 3.50GHz/6MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling - Corsair Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid CPU Cooler - Standard 120mm Fan
Memory/RAM - 16GB DDR3-2133
Video Card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 - 4GB - Single Card
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3
Power Supply - 650 Watt - EVGA SuperNOVA NEX650G - 80 PLUS Gold
Primary Hard Drive - TB Western Digital Caviar Blue Hard Drive -- 64MB Cache, 7200RPM
Optical Drive - Blu-ray Re-Writer
Operating System - Windows 10 Home 64 bit
 

Majcric

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Most games yes, every game no.

Switch that i5 with an i7 k series. I'd also get the WD black over the blue.
 

Aikouka

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Most games yes, every game no.

Switch that i5 with an i7 k series. I'd also get the WD black over the blue.

Why waste $100 on an upgrade from an i5 to an i7? I'd rather see him put $100 into an SSD and a better HDD. You can pick up a decent SSD and upgrade the HDD to a better model for around $120 or so (assuming smart shopping for a good deal on the SSD).
 

Majcric

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Games are utilizing more cores/threads now. They actually have been for a while. A few off the top of my head are Crysis 3, The Witcher 3, and GTA 5. I would not buy an i5 at this point forward.
 

Aikouka

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Games are utilizing more cores/threads now. They actually have been for a while. A few off the top of my head are Crysis 3, The Witcher 3, and GTA 5. I would not buy an i5 at this point forward.

Can you show me some benchmarks to highlight this? I'm not really seeing anything like that using Anandtech's benchmarks.... From what I can see, the benchmarks are pretty much inconsequential between the two. At least in my experience, the main boon for an i7 is still compression and (code) compilation as they can both be parallelized fairly well.
 

TheVrolok

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Just to echo the others, primary drive should absolutely be a SSD. As far as WD drives go - Blue (everyday drive, but not primary for a gaming rig), Black (faster drive), Green (slower lower power using), Red (storage drive).
 

Sniper82

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Like others have said definitely get a SSD. If your not getting a k series and overclocking I'd go with a much cheaper motherboard unless your getting it for looks.
 

Aikouka

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Like others have said definitely get a SSD. If your not getting a k series and overclocking I'd go with a much cheaper motherboard unless your getting it for looks.

Honestly, sometimes I go for better boards simply because they have more features. The biggest thing is usually more USB ports since I always seem to have way too much crap that needs to be plugged in! D:
 

mmntech

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An SSD is probably the single best upgrade you can do for your computer right now. Even if you just get a smaller capacity one for the OS and commonly used programs. After using one for awhile, it's painful going back to a PC with only a hard drive.

Speaking of drives, I'd ditch the Bluray writer unless you're burning home movies or something. Multi TB external hard drives are cheap enough now if you're doing backups. BD-ROM drives are cheaper if you're just ripping / watching movies.

I've been pretty vocal about my dislike of Windows 10. I know this is a controversial opinion, but until Microsoft straightens out their privacy policy, I wouldn't pay for it. Let alone pay $100 for it. Going to be awhile before DX12 games become the norm so get Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 instead.

Can you show me some benchmarks to highlight this? I'm not really seeing anything like that using Anandtech's benchmarks.... From what I can see, the benchmarks are pretty much inconsequential between the two. At least in my experience, the main boon for an i7 is still compression and (code) compilation as they can both be parallelized fairly well.

It's a bit like the debate over SLI a few years back. There's a point of diminishing returns by adding more cores. Simply because a lot of games aren't optimized for that level of multi-threading. The i5 is cheaper and the OP can always upgrade in the future if he's looking to keep costs down.
 

Aikouka

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An SSD is probably the single best upgrade you can do for your computer right now. Even if you just get a smaller capacity one for the OS and commonly used programs. After using one for awhile, it's painful going back to a PC with only a hard drive.

Yup. SSDs are pretty much the best upgrade for an older computer, but just to note, you'll want to make sure that older PC can use Windows 7 or at least buy a SSD that doesn't really "need" TRIM support. That's because Windows 7 is the first Windows OS that supports TRIM.

Speaking of drives, I'd ditch the Bluray writer unless you're burning home movies or something. Multi TB external hard drives are cheap enough now if you're doing backups. BD-ROM drives are cheaper if you're just ripping / watching movies.

Yeah, I have a Blu-ray writer, and all I use it for is ripping my own movies. Although, if that is your purpose, you really need to be careful about what drive you buy, because some drives list a high read speed, but actually reduce their read speed to avoid rippers. For example, I had a Pioneer BD206 drive, and it ripped at about 2x no matter what. My LG drive can rip up to 8x or more (depending on disc position).

I've been pretty vocal about my dislike of Windows 10. I know this is a controversial opinion, but until Microsoft straightens out their privacy policy, I wouldn't pay for it. Let alone pay $100 for it. Going to be awhile before DX12 games become the norm so get Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 instead.

Windows 10 is okay. I mean... if you aren't sure if you'll like it, just get Windows 7 and upgrade. You can always fall back to Windows 7 if you end up not liking 10. However, if you do want to upgrade, you've only got that year window.


It's a bit like the debate over SLI a few years back. There's a point of diminishing returns by adding more cores. Simply because a lot of games aren't optimized for that level of multi-threading. The i5 is cheaper and the OP can always upgrade in the future if he's looking to keep costs down.

I don't think it really compares to SLI, because SLI usually does provide pretty tangible benefits. Albeit, the biggest complaint about SLI is that the scaling isn't as good as people would prefer (i.e. 100% boost with the same card added). However, they are similar in that both SLI and the i7 have had issues in the past of actually hurting performance. If your game lacks an SLI profile, you may see no benefit or slightly less performance, but if your game's threads execute on the HT cores, you may see reduced performance. Apart from that, in most games, you'll see about a 1-2 FPS increase from the extra faux cores.
 

Ventanni

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I've loved Windows 10 so far. Nice product, and I have it on all my machines.

i5 vs i7? There are maybe an extremely small handful of games that benefit from an i7, but otherwise there's no difference. The primary performance benefit of an i7 is found outside of gaming. The only reason I bought an i7 is because I considered the dual core vs quad core factor back in 2006 when the first Core 2's came out. In the end, it would have been more advantageous had I spent more money and purchase the quad core over the dual core. So I applied the same logic to the i7. So far though, the i5 vs i7 debate hasn't paralleled the Core 2 Duo vs Core 2 Quad debate, and I'd be just as happy with an i5 if I had bought one.

SSD all the way man. Cannot stress enough the difference.
 

Patrickn29

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Why waste $100 on an upgrade from an i5 to an i7? I'd rather see him put $100 into an SSD and a better HDD. You can pick up a decent SSD and upgrade the HDD to a better model for around $120 or so (assuming smart shopping for a good deal on the SSD).
So should i add a 128GB SANDISK Z400S SSD and upgrade my HDD to a better one and Im good to go?
 

Aikouka

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So should i add a 128GB SANDISK Z400S SSD and upgrade my HDD to a better one and Im good to go?

I'm not too sure how good that Sandisk drive is. I can't seem to find a single review on the drive and Newegg only has two reviews on its site.

Personally, since you're building this as your main rig, I'd probably go for something a little more tried and true. Sandisk does make higher end SSDs that Anandtech has rated quite well. Samsung also makes good SSDs. You can get a 250GB Samsung 850 EVO for $89 at Newegg and Amazon. Depending on your overall focus, a slightly larger SSD might not be a bad idea as you may have a few games that you want to store on the faster medium.
 

PrincessFrosty

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An SSD is probably the single best upgrade you can do for your computer right now. Even if you just get a smaller capacity one for the OS and commonly used programs. After using one for awhile, it's painful going back to a PC with only a hard drive.

Yes do this, a small and super fast SSD for the primary OS drive will make your day to day usability in windows just a lot faster and more responsive. Use larger HDDs as a 2ndry drive to store your media and things which aren't limited by read/write speed.

You can store your most used games on the SSD and the rest you can just install to the HDD if you happen to have a big library, this is what I do in steam.
 

HumblePie

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256 GB SSD or larger as others have recommended is a massive improvement to gaming in general as well as the general responsiveness of the OS. The rest of your rig for games is seriously fine as long as you aren't trying to do something crazy like 1440P across 3 monitors or even greater resolution. Then it's not going to handle it well.

Otherwise it is a pretty darn good system for gaming. I have put together a few similar systems recently for friends for their upgrades. They haven't had any complaints.
 

Midwayman

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If you were talking a hex core i7 over a quad i5 it might be worth it. The thing is dx12 is set to make your CPU even less important in gaming in the next few years.

As others have said, get a SSD. If you've never had one, you are in for a treat. I'll never build a system without one again. Even a slow SSD is magnitudes of order faster than a HDD. If you do get a HDD in addition, get the caviar black, not the blue. If you're not planning on overclocking you can save some money by using the OEM cpu cooler. They're fine even for mild overclocks.
 

werepossum

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Can you show me some benchmarks to highlight this? I'm not really seeing anything like that using Anandtech's benchmarks.... From what I can see, the benchmarks are pretty much inconsequential between the two. At least in my experience, the main boon for an i7 is still compression and (code) compilation as they can both be parallelized fairly well.
Agreed, especially if the choice is between an i7 or an i5 with SSD and/or a better GPU. Given how much more powerful is a good i5 compared to a console, I don't see the lower thread capacity becoming an issue over the next three years.
 
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