if your morals are those reflected by GWB then please keep them to yourself. as a non-christian my moral standards seem to quite a bit higher then those passed as such over the past decade. your God would love for you to learn from those mistakes. instead of praying for Obama, get out and do something productive to be a part of the new vision.Originally posted by: tealk
My heart was broken this morning. Not because Obama was elected president, but of the way ?Christians? are reacting to the news. God?s word calls us to lift up our leaders ? regardless of their political race.
I was praying on the way to work this morning ? praying for our new president-to-be and America. When I was done, I turned on the radio to a local Christian radio station and just listened to what was being said. The radio hosts ? bless their hearts - were doing their best to remind us as Christians what we are called to. We are called to simply trust in the Lord. I began to sob in the car and I really don?t even know why. I?ve never been this emotional about politics before. But I truly believe the Lord was breaking my heart. The radio hosts were talking about how some of their closest ?Christian? friends are being so terribly bitter and angry toward the results of the election. My heart broke! A woman called into the show and expressed that she had voted for McCain and how terribly sad she was that America had lost sight of what really matters on issues such as human life, marriage, and stem cell research.
I don?t think I really grasped what America has come to until this morning. Aaron and I were talking a couple weeks ago about how it seems that American?s ? especially the younger generation ? think ?it?s cool? to be liberal and forget about everything this country was founded on.
Again, I am not upset that Obama was elected president. I vow, as a Christian, to pray for him as I would any president. The thing that saddens me is how ?Christians? are reacting, and how Americans just don?t seem to care about moral issues. I think that?s why I was sobbing on the way to work today. I truly believe the Lord was breaking my heart and reminding me more than ever, that in today?s world, it?s time to be BOLD and to stand for what is right!
The radio host said something that I want to send out to all of you. He said, ?America may have a new president, and he may not stand for the issues we as Christians stand for, but we still have a King! And He is seated at the right hand of God!? Amen!
Please join me in lifting up in prayer our country, and our new president, Barack Obama, remembering the Lord is still in control!
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: tealk
My heart was broken this morning. Not because Obama was elected president, but of the way ?Christians? are reacting to the news. God?s word calls us to lift up our leaders ? regardless of their political race.
I was praying on the way to work this morning ? praying for our new president-to-be and America. When I was done, I turned on the radio to a local Christian radio station and just listened to what was being said. The radio hosts ? bless their hearts - were doing their best to remind us as Christians what we are called to. We are called to simply trust in the Lord. I began to sob in the car and I really don?t even know why. I?ve never been this emotional about politics before. But I truly believe the Lord was breaking my heart. The radio hosts were talking about how some of their closest ?Christian? friends are being so terribly bitter and angry toward the results of the election. My heart broke! A woman called into the show and expressed that she had voted for McCain and how terribly sad she was that America had lost sight of what really matters on issues such as human life, marriage, and stem cell research.
I don?t think I really grasped what America has come to until this morning. Aaron and I were talking a couple weeks ago about how it seems that American?s ? especially the younger generation ? think ?it?s cool? to be liberal and forget about everything this country was founded on.
Again, I am not upset that Obama was elected president. I vow, as a Christian, to pray for him as I would any president. The thing that saddens me is how ?Christians? are reacting, and how Americans just don?t seem to care about moral issues. I think that?s why I was sobbing on the way to work today. I truly believe the Lord was breaking my heart and reminding me more than ever, that in today?s world, it?s time to be BOLD and to stand for what is right!
The radio host said something that I want to send out to all of you. He said, ?America may have a new president, and he may not stand for the issues we as Christians stand for, but we still have a King! And He is seated at the right hand of God!? Amen!
Please join me in lifting up in prayer our country, and our new president, Barack Obama, remembering the Lord is still in control!
Interesting perspective -- I thought Obama was the Messiah...
:roll: Glad I'm an Atheist so I don't have to deal with this irrational nonsense.Originally posted by: tealk
My heart was broken this morning. Not because Obama was elected president, but of the way ?Christians? are reacting to the news. God?s word calls us to lift up our leaders ? regardless of their political race.
I was praying on the way to work this morning ? praying for our new president-to-be and America. When I was done, I turned on the radio to a local Christian radio station and just listened to what was being said. The radio hosts ? bless their hearts - were doing their best to remind us as Christians what we are called to. We are called to simply trust in the Lord. I began to sob in the car and I really don?t even know why. I?ve never been this emotional about politics before. But I truly believe the Lord was breaking my heart. The radio hosts were talking about how some of their closest ?Christian? friends are being so terribly bitter and angry toward the results of the election. My heart broke! A woman called into the show and expressed that she had voted for McCain and how terribly sad she was that America had lost sight of what really matters on issues such as human life, marriage, and stem cell research.
I don?t think I really grasped what America has come to until this morning. Aaron and I were talking a couple weeks ago about how it seems that American?s ? especially the younger generation ? think ?it?s cool? to be liberal and forget about everything this country was founded on.
Again, I am not upset that Obama was elected president. I vow, as a Christian, to pray for him as I would any president. The thing that saddens me is how ?Christians? are reacting, and how Americans just don?t seem to care about moral issues. I think that?s why I was sobbing on the way to work today. I truly believe the Lord was breaking my heart and reminding me more than ever, that in today?s world, it?s time to be BOLD and to stand for what is right!
The radio host said something that I want to send out to all of you. He said, ?America may have a new president, and he may not stand for the issues we as Christians stand for, but we still have a King! And He is seated at the right hand of God!? Amen!
Please join me in lifting up in prayer our country, and our new president, Barack Obama, remembering the Lord is still in control!
Originally posted by: PotatoMAN
I really wish there wasn't so much hatred on this forum. I think the problem is that people tend to get blinded with the tasks and occurrences at hand and fail to take a step back and look at the situation. Christians/non-christians all have a part in this failure.
The problem is America has a tainted democracy that is running on a two party system. I feel this needs to be reworked, that the current voting practices are dated, and people are generally more educated or have more access to information than ever before. We need to embrace this power in the people and we need a government that does right by it.
Tealk is simply a product of the two party system. As is are most of us. The Christians tend to get clumped under the Republican umbrella because it is a huge demographic. And, unfortunately, because they tend to be followers and less of questioners. This doesn't have to be this way, tealk, and I beg you to always ask questions. You can shift them into your understanding of the world through your beliefs, but if you stop searching for the truth you will never find it. A wonderful guy I saw on the Colbert Report (I suck, I get my news from here) is Peter Gomes - a Harvard theologian that is one of the few guests I felt could keep up with Colbert. He is smart, Christian (sorry if I get my denominations all grouped up under "Christian" - I also suck with this knowledge; I tend to assume all followers of Christ are Christian), and witty.
Those of us who attack tealk for supporting his beliefs in a major party platform because of unrelated policy measures are also wrong. I have a hard time drawing the connection from followers of Christ and the Bible to our current Republican party's agenda of propagating capitalism at all costs. Then again, I am not Christian nor have I read the whole Bible, so maybe those connections are there and I missed them. I just think it is an emergent characteristic of a two party platform that doesn't work very well.
I didn't vote for McCain, or Obama. In fact, I didn't vote (shoot me please, I forgot to re-register where I live). Anyway, I am happy and confident that America did choose a new, smart, brave, and awesome new leader for her. If I did vote, I probably would have voted for Ron Paul, but I really think we can do better.
Originally posted by: Xavier434
The child is the responsibility of his family. I am the head of his family. Therefore, I am in charge of him and am very much responsible for him. His mother is obviously more responsible according to the law, but not according to my family. His mother cannot afford to provide him with health insurance let alone insurance for herself without my help.
Hey! But that's ok right? It's not like I have to worry because now I can just take him to the emergency room which costs the people of America a shit ton more than it would if they continue to allow me to insure him through my employer or through something like Obama's future healthcare plan.
Actually I think he's a product of fanatical Religious Fundamentalism.Originally posted by: PotatoMAN
Tealk is simply a product of the two party system.
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Xavier434
The child is the responsibility of his family. I am the head of his family. Therefore, I am in charge of him and am very much responsible for him. His mother is obviously more responsible according to the law, but not according to my family. His mother cannot afford to provide him with health insurance let alone insurance for herself without my help.
Hey! But that's ok right? It's not like I have to worry because now I can just take him to the emergency room which costs the people of America a shit ton more than it would if they continue to allow me to insure him through my employer or through something like Obama's future healthcare plan.
Woah there, el tigre. I commented on and asked about semantics being used and about some proposition that I have no idea about (as I may be an east coaster, but I am quite far away from Florida).
I'm looking at some information online about Domestic Partnerships in Florida ( http://www.pbcountyclerk.com/c...il/domesticpartner.htm ) and wow... this sounds rather odd. It literally sounds like it's not much more than a glorified roommate based on the criteria to establish one.
To be honest, after reading those simplistic criteria, I'm really not so sure it's a good idea either.... My initial reaction has nothing to do with homosexuals at all, but rather possible exploitation to get easy insurance from someone. I'll have to think about it.
Originally posted by: ThePresence
And I would again, if he were running against an unknown such as Obama.
However, I must say I have never seen such emotion, such an outpouring of fervor for a man. I missed JFK, so I have never seen a man able to move so many so much with his words. He has an inborn power to move people, even if he were white. It's not his color, it's his skill and talent. I am fearful of what he will do but I hope he does well. All Americans should hope for that, regardless of party and color.
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: ThePresence
And I would again, if he were running against an unknown such as Obama.
However, I must say I have never seen such emotion, such an outpouring of fervor for a man. I missed JFK, so I have never seen a man able to move so many so much with his words. He has an inborn power to move people, even if he were white. It's not his color, it's his skill and talent. I am fearful of what he will do but I hope he does well. All Americans should hope for that, regardless of party and color.
How very nice for you. blog.idiot.com is the other way
Originally posted by: brencat
+1Originally posted by: bozack
Voted against Obama and for McCain, would have preferred Romney
Or at the very minimum, Romney as VP to give economic-issue credibility. Because when the sh!t hit the fan 2 months ago, McCain was caught with his pants down.
Originally posted by: Chunkee
How very nice for you. blog.idiot.com is the other way
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: tealk
Lord they know not what they say. Forgive them. Amen
you sir, are the best parody poster.
Originally posted by: Pneumothorax
Finally, Xavier why don't you just marry your GF then?
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Pneumothorax
Finally, Xavier why don't you just marry your GF then?
Several reasons.
1. She would lose all of her financial aid for college.
2. We would lose an additional $3000-$4000 in taxes.
3. There is other insurance that my family has which we would not qualify for if we got married.
There are a few others too, but they are not as important. Believe me. It is not because I don't want to do it and some day I will be able to without making major sacrifices hopefully.
Originally posted by: Xavier434
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bigot evangelical pieces of shit
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The child is the responsibility of his family. I am the head of his family. Therefore, I am in charge of him and am very much responsible for him. His mother is obviously more responsible according to the law, but not according to my family. His mother cannot afford to provide him with health insurance let alone insurance for herself without my help.
Hey! But that's ok right? It's not like I have to worry because now I can just take him to the emergency room which costs the people of America a shit ton more than it would if they continue to allow me to insure him through my employer or through something like Obama's future healthcare plan.
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
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Congrats Obama, now the balls in your court to deliver on your promises please don't let us down.
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Several reasons.
1. She would lose all of her financial aid for college.
2. We would lose an additional $3000-$4000 in taxes.
3. There is other insurance that my family has which we would not qualify for if we got married.
There are a few others too, but they are not as important. Believe me. It is not because I don't want to do it and some day I will hopefully be able to without making major sacrifices.
That kind of money is going towards my stepson's college and other well being.
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: Xavier434
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bigot evangelical pieces of shit
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The child is the responsibility of his family. I am the head of his family. Therefore, I am in charge of him and am very much responsible for him. His mother is obviously more responsible according to the law, but not according to my family. His mother cannot afford to provide him with health insurance let alone insurance for herself without my help.
Hey! But that's ok right? It's not like I have to worry because now I can just take him to the emergency room which costs the people of America a shit ton more than it would if they continue to allow me to insure him through my employer or through something like Obama's future healthcare plan.
Wow, that's one heck of a rant.
So your girlfriend can't afford health insurance for her and it's whose fault again?
I don't consider myself an evangelical or whatever, but I sure as heck don't see why your employer should have to pay for that kids health insurance simply because you *like* the mother and/or it would be nice to have someone else pay for your personal life decisions.
You're in charge of the kid? Umm, no you're not. "Your family's" rules are just that, your family's - you sure seem to think you have the ability to make up *rules* and have everybody else abide by them.
If the mother is a low income earner, Medicaid is available. FL also has an SCHIP program.
IMO, you should stop hating on other people, evangelicals or whomever, for the kid's lack of health insurance. Man-up and get the kid on Medicaid, SCHIP or just buy a policy (health insurance for kids is typically very inexpensive. I googled for my area and the quote was $80 a month).
Oh, and for Chrit's sake, you don't need to go the dang emergency room if that is your complaint - there are plenty of walk-in clinics all over the freakin country. I know, I'm self-employed and self-insured and my family (kid included) use them. There's no need to use the emergency room unless there's a bona-fide emergency.
Fern
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Several reasons.
1. She would lose all of her financial aid for college.
2. We would lose an additional $3000-$4000 in taxes.
3. There is other insurance that my family has which we would not qualify for if we got married.
There are a few others too, but they are not as important. Believe me. It is not because I don't want to do it and some day I will hopefully be able to without making major sacrifices.
That kind of money is going towards my stepson's college and other well being.
So, in other words, "I want some of the benefits (i.e. medical benefits) of marriage without the downsides." Not tryin' to be an ass, but that's really all I see with those points you mentioned....
EDIT: Fumbled up a word or two like Obama and a teleprompter .
Originally posted by: Possessed Freak
3 for 3 voted for losers. I wonder if this is the start of a trend for me. Will I ever pick the winner? Maybe I need to start voting for the worst option so that I hex it and the best is elected in...