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Sukhoi

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Okay, I'm picking up a 12ga Mossberg 500 with synthetic stock. I went to some used gun and pawn stores and I can actually get a new one for just a little more (about $260 for 28"/18" barrels). There's just something I like about a pump shotgun.

Is that a normal Mossberg combo with the 28"/18" barrels or something your store has put together? I'm in the market to buy exactly the same thing but I haven't seen a combo with the barrels.
 

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Okay, I'm picking up a 12ga Mossberg 500 with synthetic stock. I went to some used gun and pawn stores and I can actually get a new one for just a little more (about $260 for 28"/18" barrels). There's just something I like about a pump shotgun.
Good call. You want be disappointed..
 

KillerCharlie

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Is that a normal Mossberg combo with the 28"/18" barrels or something your store has put together? I'm in the market to buy exactly the same thing but I haven't seen a combo with the barrels.

Yeah, the only place I know that has them is Big 5 Sporting Goods, but they're only on the west coast. They regularly have this deal for $279. I went to a few pawn/gun stores in the area and used 500s are going for at least $200 (with only one barrel).
 

Zebo

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I'd go for a Benelli Ultra light. At only 6 lbs you'll appreciate it after a few hours in the field. I'm a big dude 6'4" 250ish and love light guns for field work - actually all work. Improves accuracy and speed as the day goes on. Another option is Browning's gold ultra light - recoil is less being gas but weighs a tad more ~ 7lbs.
 

Zebo

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I've worked at my clubs trap shoot every month, year round, for over 15 years.

All 12 ga. with very few exceptions. Bigger bore = more pellets = more broken birds. The only time you'll feel the difference in recoil is with a 3 1/2" turkey load through a xtra full choke. Even then, suck it up, be a man and grin like you enjoyed it.

As to the make/model, I have a Remington 1187. I'd buy another in a heartbeat. They are often sold as a combination with vent rib (long bird/trap/turkey) and slug (short slug/defenze) barrels. Autoloaders are fun and fast. Gas operation also soaks up some recoil.

Wood or synthetic? Your preference. Wood is mine. I love walnut.

Buy a 12 gauge. Everybody else did.

Not to mention 12ga is most plentiful, widest variety of shot, and cheapest. There should be no other calibers in shotguns. I shot 12ga. John Wayne Style (one handed as a kid when i broke my arm) so I'm not sure what these poster mean by heavy recoil. My 10ga pump has some but nothing like say a 300 winmag.
 

thepd7

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Not to mention 12ga is most plentiful, widest variety of shot, and cheapest. There should be no other calibers in shotguns. I shot 12ga. John Wayne Style (one handed as a kid when i broke my arm) so I'm not sure what these poster mean by heavy recoil. My 10ga pump has some but nothing like say a 300 winmag.

lol I'm from Texas and you are too hick for me.

First off, shotguns are for bird hunting, that's why they were created. The only birds you need 12ga for are geese and maybe turkey.

OP, I ended up buying the cheap ($350 on sale) Stoeger Over/Under from Dick's Sporting Goods. I was in the same boat (wanting to do sporting clays and maybe home defense). I basically decided I would spend a little more for a pure skeet shooting gun and just use my pistols for home defense.

It's a great gun for the price and after shooting 100 shells (full round of sporting clays) I am so much happier I got the 20ga.
 

Zebo

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You're from Austin - That ain't Texas.

PS How many birds you kilt? I have probably shot over 20000. At least 500 a season between Dove, Quail, Pheasant, Duck, turkey etc. Not to mention clays. Trust me 12ga can be underpowered. Need hot express loads to knock down pheasant - Won't kill a tukey unless you hit their heads with shot. And you can buy cheap clay loads for dove. 12ga is most versatile for that reason. #1 buck for HD to slugs for deer to light loads for upland game.

PS #2 nice starter gun BTW but I follow the "buy once, cry once" school of thought after owning a stoeger 12ga.
 
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marvdmartian

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Pretty much, you can't go wrong for general use with a Mossberg500/Maverick 88(same gun, same manufacturer, slightly different features, lower price) or a Remington 870(870 Express model offered at a lower price point).

The mossberg/maverick will probably be more reliable and the remington is probably more popular but we're splitting hairs here(as in 1 jam in 10000 rounds versus no jams). Both are battle tested and work fine.

Price both out, see what you can get them for, the mossberg will probably cost less, so I'd probably go with the mossberg.

Academy sports has the Remington 870 express for $249 after $30 mail in rebate, this week. That's what I paid for it last year, with the same value rebate, and it came through without any trouble.
 

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Pretty much, you can't go wrong for general use with a Mossberg500/Maverick 88(same gun, same manufacturer, slightly different features, lower price) or a Remington 870(870 Express model offered at a lower price point).

The mossberg/maverick will probably be more reliable and the remington is probably more popular but we're splitting hairs here(as in 1 jam in 10000 rounds versus no jams). Both are battle tested and work fine.

Price both out, see what you can get them for, the mossberg will probably cost less, so I'd probably go with the mossberg.

So what do you base your statement that the 500 is more reliable on? Have you fired 10,000 rounds in each?
 

Sukhoi

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Yeah, the only place I know that has them is Big 5 Sporting Goods, but they're only on the west coast. They regularly have this deal for $279. I went to a few pawn/gun stores in the area and used 500s are going for at least $200 (with only one barrel).

Oooh, I'm in San Jose so plenty of Big 5s around here. I'm driving past a Big 5 today so I'll have to stop and see particular model the combo is based on. I'd rather have a matte finish but I could probably live with blued if the whole combo is $279.
 

KillerCharlie

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The Mossberg I'm looking at I think is 5+1 capacity. Is that enough for a home defense situation? I guess it's only 1 or 2 less than something like a 1911. I just want to make sure in case I use it for that.

EDIT: okay that's probably not a great question since most revolvers are 6 shot.... if you can't hit something with a shotgun in 6 tries you probably shouldn't be using one
 
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Sukhoi

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The Mossberg I'm looking at I think is 5+1 capacity. Is that enough for a home defense situation? I guess it's only 1 or 2 less than something like a 1911. I just want to make sure in case I use it for that.

EDIT: okay that's probably not a great question since most revolvers are 6 shot.... if you can't hit something with a shotgun in 6 tries you probably shouldn't be using one

I stopped by Big 5 last weekend and the Mossberg 500 combo seems like an awesome deal. I'm going to be buying it sometime in January once I get moved into my new apt.

5+1 should be plenty for home defense. Remember with the kind of rounds you're talking about you only need to hit your target once, unlike a lot of handgun calibers. You can also probably get a magazine extension if you want.
 

KillerCharlie

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Well there is a catch with the Mossberg 500 combo - the 28" barrel is a fixed (non-removable) choke. It is a modified choke. Does anyone know, will a modified choke be fine for casual trap shooting?

My plan is to get a cheap pump and shoot singles for a while. If I like it and want to get into more, keep the pump for self-defense and get a semi to use for trap. Is a modified choke okay in the meantime?
 

Jadow

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remington 870 no brainer. Anyone who says mossberg 500 over that is just plain wrong.

You can get an 870 express for about 260 after rebate at walmart. Its a great gun will last you 50 years.
 

Sukhoi

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Well there is a catch with the Mossberg 500 combo - the 28" barrel is a fixed (non-removable) choke. It is a modified choke. Does anyone know, will a modified choke be fine for casual trap shooting?

My plan is to get a cheap pump and shoot singles for a while. If I like it and want to get into more, keep the pump for self-defense and get a semi to use for trap. Is a modified choke okay in the meantime?

I talked to a friend of mine that is quite good at trap and skeet shooting, and he said a modified choke is just fine unless you're in competition shooting or something.
 

KillerCharlie

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I talked to a friend of mine that is quite good at trap and skeet shooting, and he said a modified choke is just fine unless you're in competition shooting or something.

Cool... they also have the Remington 870 for $300 at Big 5 that comes with a removable choke. I like the fit and finish of the 870 better but like the safety position on the mossberg.
 

Sukhoi

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Cool... they also have the Remington 870 for $300 at Big 5 that comes with a removable choke. I like the fit and finish of the 870 better but like the safety position on the mossberg.

The Mossberg also has the receiver pre-drilled for sights in the event you want to add one.

Does that Remington come with 18 & 28 inch barrels?
 

KillerCharlie

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No, the Remington only comes with a 28" barrel (but it has a removable choke). It's actually on sale for $270 at sports authority which is the cheapest I've seen it.

I've noticed that the Remington barrel only has on bead sight at the end of the barrel, while the Mossberg has two beads you can line up. I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes.
 
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