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Skott

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2005
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The problem with Corps is that they want you *after* you completed the trial version. I think alot of people are turned off before Day 14. The game is deep and detailed but also so damn complex. A newbie really needs help during those critical opening days and weeks. Hell, just figuring out the starting stats for a character is a major undertaking IMO. The things that make Eve different than other MMOs is also its achielles heel. Depth and complexity can be good but it can also be bad. Saying it has a steep learning curve is putting it politely. Eve is a game where you definetely want a buddy or buddies to help you figure things out. Otherwise you are going to be fustrated alot. Just my opinion anyway. Visually its probably the most stunning game I have yet to see in a MMO.
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
16,830
3
0
Originally posted by: Skott
The problem with Corps is that they want you *after* you completed the trial version. I think alot of people are turned off before Day 14. The game is deep and detailed but also so damn complex. A newbie really needs help during those critical opening days and weeks. Hell, just figuring out the starting stats for a character is a major undertaking IMO. The things that make Eve different than other MMOs is also its achielles heel. Depth and complexity can be good but it can also be bad. Saying it has a steep learning curve is putting it politely. Eve is a game where you definetely want a buddy or buddies to help you figure things out. Otherwise you are going to be fustrated alot. Just my opinion anyway. Visually its probably the most stunning game I have yet to see in a MMO.

I tried the demo and I got bored after a day of clicking waypoints on the starmap and mining asteroids.
 

Praxis1452

Platinum Member
Jan 31, 2006
2,197
0
0
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Skott
The problem with Corps is that they want you *after* you completed the trial version. I think alot of people are turned off before Day 14. The game is deep and detailed but also so damn complex. A newbie really needs help during those critical opening days and weeks. Hell, just figuring out the starting stats for a character is a major undertaking IMO. The things that make Eve different than other MMOs is also its achielles heel. Depth and complexity can be good but it can also be bad. Saying it has a steep learning curve is putting it politely. Eve is a game where you definetely want a buddy or buddies to help you figure things out. Otherwise you are going to be fustrated alot. Just my opinion anyway. Visually its probably the most stunning game I have yet to see in a MMO.

I tried the demo and I got bored after a day of clicking waypoints on the starmap and mining asteroids.

I don't believe I even have a mining skill.
 

nsafreak

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 2001
7,093
3
81
Some buds of mine have formed up a corp just for taking new players in and teaching them the ropes. I may put an alt in the corp myself not sure yet as I'm so busy on my main. In any case the name of the corp is Antimatter Enterprises. Yeah I know there are a bunch of corps that do the same thing but I just wanted to let you guys know there's another one around.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
82,854
17,365
136
This is why I prefer Single Player.
Yes, I know that Freelancer is not even in the same league as EVE, and I know I'd get my ass handed to me immediately if I went up against 13 year olds with no lives who play online constantly. I accept that.

What I cant accept is working my ass off for a year and then some mean fucker comes along and wipes it all out inside a minute. That would drive me nuts.
If I screw up or get screwed over, I need to be able to load up an old save file and try again or do something else if I'm not ready.

Thats why the only online game I kept is Guild Wars. Its free to play and nothing bad is ever permanent.
 

JRich

Platinum Member
Jun 7, 2005
2,717
1
71
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Awesome. I just bought a Raven, and having a blast hitting things 75km away

I would be about 15km outside your range with my Megathron
 

Riverhound777

Diamond Member
Aug 13, 2003
3,363
61
91
Originally posted by: shortylickens
This is why I prefer Single Player.
Yes, I know that Freelancer is not even in the same league as EVE, and I know I'd get my ass handed to me immediately if I went up against 13 year olds with no lives who play online constantly. I accept that.
What I cant accept is working my ass off for a year and then some mean fucker comes along and wipes it all out inside a minute. That would drive me nuts.
If I screw up or get screwed over, I need to be able to load up an old save file and try again or do something else if I'm not ready.

Thats why the only online game I kept is Guild Wars. Its free to play and nothing bad is ever permanent.


Actually there are very few kids under 18 that play EVE. At least when I was playing. I think the average Eve player was 28. Of course there are some young ones, but they tend to be few and far between, and much more mature in my experience (players for 3 years, had 42mill skillpoint char when I quit).
 

Skott

Diamond Member
Oct 4, 2005
5,730
1
76
Its not kids who ruin MMO game play. Its the idiot adults that act like little hooligans that ruin it for others IMO. Anywho... I didnt meet any in EvE during my trial sojourn. Lucky for me. The EvE people I spoke to were pretty nice actually. I didnt get into PvP though.
 

JRich

Platinum Member
Jun 7, 2005
2,717
1
71
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Awesome. I just bought a Raven, and having a blast hitting things 75km away

I would be about 15km outside your range with my Megathron

MWD + Torp Owns Megathron.

Screw that, I'm warping ---------------->
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
44,303
15
81
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Awesome. I just bought a Raven, and having a blast hitting things 75km away

I would be about 15km outside your range with my Megathron

At which point the Raven warps off because you can't tackle him.
 

JRich

Platinum Member
Jun 7, 2005
2,717
1
71
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Awesome. I just bought a Raven, and having a blast hitting things 75km away

I would be about 15km outside your range with my Megathron

At which point the Raven warps off because you can't tackle him.

That's alright. I'm set up for PvE right now a la Sniperthron.
 

nsafreak

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 2001
7,093
3
81
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Awesome. I just bought a Raven, and having a blast hitting things 75km away

I would be about 15km outside your range with my Megathron

At which point the Raven warps off because you can't tackle him.

That's alright. I'm set up for PvE right now a la Sniperthron.

I still want a Kronos to fit my T2 Blaster Cannons on, too bad those ships are still so dang expensive.
 
Oct 25, 2006
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Originally posted by: nsafreak
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: JRich
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Awesome. I just bought a Raven, and having a blast hitting things 75km away

I would be about 15km outside your range with my Megathron

At which point the Raven warps off because you can't tackle him.

That's alright. I'm set up for PvE right now a la Sniperthron.

I still want a Kronos to fit my T2 Blaster Cannons on, too bad those ships are still so dang expensive.

You think that's expensive? Try looking at Golems. Godly for everything except your wallet.
 

Drift3r

Guest
Jun 3, 2003
3,572
0
0
Originally posted by: shortylickens
This is why I prefer Single Player.
Yes, I know that Freelancer is not even in the same league as EVE, and I know I'd get my ass handed to me immediately if I went up against 13 year olds with no lives who play online constantly. I accept that.

What I cant accept is working my ass off for a year and then some mean fucker comes along and wipes it all out inside a minute. That would drive me nuts.
If I screw up or get screwed over, I need to be able to load up an old save file and try again or do something else if I'm not ready.

Thats why the only online game I kept is Guild Wars. Its free to play and nothing bad is ever permanent.

It's call calculated risk. You only offer up what you can offered to lose instead of dumping all your eggs in one basket. Use that strategy in EVE/life and you should have no problems taking on risks and any loss that you may incur.
 

imported_Truenofan

Golden Member
May 6, 2005
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sucks for the loss. it happens sometimes. I've lost countless ships in wars. frigs, crusers, and two battleships. a domi and a megathron.
 

SunnyD

Belgian Waffler
Jan 2, 2001
32,674
145
106
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Could be what happened to me... my alliance set up shop in a quiet end of 0-space. All was nice for a while, then we attracted the attention of some corp that wanted revenge on us for something. So they "hired" about 3 merc corps and took siege on us for a few weeks after we set up a base. They ended up taking the system and the base...

I had a Raven in the hangar at the base along with probably 50-70mil isk worth of goods...
 

lozina

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
11,709
8
81
Yeah there are alot of aspects I miss about EVE too.. it had a great atmosphere to it which was quite immersive. but that skill system... DAYYYYAMMMN. Vowed never to get involved with a timed skill system again
 

hooflung

Golden Member
Dec 31, 2004
1,190
1
0
Originally posted by: Riverhound777
Originally posted by: shortylickens
This is why I prefer Single Player.
Yes, I know that Freelancer is not even in the same league as EVE, and I know I'd get my ass handed to me immediately if I went up against 13 year olds with no lives who play online constantly. I accept that.
What I cant accept is working my ass off for a year and then some mean fucker comes along and wipes it all out inside a minute. That would drive me nuts.
If I screw up or get screwed over, I need to be able to load up an old save file and try again or do something else if I'm not ready.

Thats why the only online game I kept is Guild Wars. Its free to play and nothing bad is ever permanent.


Actually there are very few kids under 18 that play EVE. At least when I was playing. I think the average Eve player was 28. Of course there are some young ones, but they tend to be few and far between, and much more mature in my experience (players for 3 years, had 42mill skillpoint char when I quit).

Yeah I am on my 5th year of EVE and I have played just about every other major MMO on the market too. But I have consistently played EVE. I've met one 13 year old and one 15 year old in my days. I was the vice president of a 2500 man alliance for months as well.

Kids are just too easy to weed out especially in PVP. Voice comms and all you know.

PVP in EVE is fantastic. I've killed about 130 ships this month including capitals and expensive NPC farmers. My current corp is NRDS ( not blue don't shoot ) which is a dying art in EVE. [blue being an onscreen display for friendly players] We only shoot people who shoot back and we have over 100 reds so we are never want for PVP. We also wardec actively to make sure when we are in low number timezones that people have something to do instead of trying to solo in 0.0.

Killing is our buisiness, being an all PVP corp. And business is good. No other game like EVE and the only reason people get bored with it is because they don't have good guides to help them get set.

If anyone is thinking about trying the game or coming back to it to be serious about it...

Try EVE-University corp. They help noobs out and teach you the ropes and have voice comms. Good stuff they bring to the game. 10 man gangs are where its at right now though in 0.0. Also, 3 days of skilling up some basic PVP stuff and a patient group can make any noob a good PVPer in the first week. That is far from the doom and gloom a lot of people preach about EVE. Its the only game where a noob can kill a vet in a dog fight if one knows the game mechanics better than the other.
 

hooflung

Golden Member
Dec 31, 2004
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Originally posted by: lozina
Yeah there are alot of aspects I miss about EVE too.. it had a great atmosphere to it which was quite immersive. but that skill system... DAYYYYAMMMN. Vowed never to get involved with a timed skill system again

I think that is more about you having your heart set on a ship class well before you should. Don't get into the rat race and don't put high expectations. Get a cruiser, get into a localized corporation that doesn't travel 50 jumps for 10 minutes of fighting ( because you'll probably have a skirmish you'll die on before you get there ).

Too many people blame the skills in EVE. You get 800k starting off now. That is... you can start a character off with Tech 2 small guns from the start. Or VERY good missile skills. OR drones 5 to where a gallente cruiser that does 200dps is obtainable within the first week.

 

Sentrosi2121

Platinum Member
Aug 8, 2004
2,568
2
81
Relatively new Eve player. Been playing for a couple of months.

I like the game. Right now I'm still building up skills toward a nicely geared EWAR cruiser (Blackbird for now). But it took me about a month to figure out what direction I wanted to go. I've got a Drake and a Caracal right now for PvEing, and an Osprey/Badger II for basic mining ops/corp mining operations.

We got WarDec'd a week ago so now my main is sitting in base training up skills. Bunch of us from my corp decided on getting 14 day trial keys and just screw around a bit. Made a Minnie and flying around Heck in my nicely geared up Rifter.

Having found a direction that would benefit my corp was one way I'm finding fun with Eve. I figure once I'm done with my EWAR skills I'll start training up Interdictors/Heavy Interdictors.
 

stevty2889

Diamond Member
Dec 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
My T2 Fitted Drake worth about 80 million just got popped by a Rat. I got a urgent call to go somewhere, and I forgot to log off as I was AFK ratting.

I came back, I was 15 million richer and floating in 00 in my Pod.

Even if I can replace it in less than 3 days, I still want to cry. That was my second Drake that I popped and I did it stupidly.

Don't you hate it when that happens?

I lost my alts Domi today in an L3 mission, while my HAC made it out with 5% structure left..and I wasn't even AFK!
 

randay

Lifer
May 30, 2006
11,019
216
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how many of you are EVE vets?
how long have you played?
how much isk do you have now?
 

Praxis1452

Platinum Member
Jan 31, 2006
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Originally posted by: stevty2889
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
My T2 Fitted Drake worth about 80 million just got popped by a Rat. I got a urgent call to go somewhere, and I forgot to log off as I was AFK ratting.

I came back, I was 15 million richer and floating in 00 in my Pod.

Even if I can replace it in less than 3 days, I still want to cry. That was my second Drake that I popped and I did it stupidly.

Don't you hate it when that happens?

I lost my alts Domi today in an L3 mission, while my HAC made it out with 5% structure left..and I wasn't even AFK!

umm drake ftw... I afk solo lvl 3's in my 1.3m sp alt.
 

stevty2889

Diamond Member
Dec 13, 2003
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0
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Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Originally posted by: stevty2889
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
My T2 Fitted Drake worth about 80 million just got popped by a Rat. I got a urgent call to go somewhere, and I forgot to log off as I was AFK ratting.

I came back, I was 15 million richer and floating in 00 in my Pod.

Even if I can replace it in less than 3 days, I still want to cry. That was my second Drake that I popped and I did it stupidly.

Don't you hate it when that happens?

I lost my alts Domi today in an L3 mission, while my HAC made it out with 5% structure left..and I wasn't even AFK!

umm drake ftw... I afk solo lvl 3's in my 1.3m sp alt.

Nah, L3's are usually a breeze for me, I semi-solo L4's(me tanking, with alt doing logistics)this particular mission is insane. My corp mates lost a Rohk and Apoyc working on it together..I think it was part 5 of New Frontiers.
 
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