i want to delid my 5960x

[Magic Carpet]

BUT NO YOUTUBE TUTORIAL.


anyone did it before and give me some advice? I think the razor blade method is dangerous if I don't understand the chip's layout.

Thanks

You could use a blowtorch to desolder the IHS, but I doubt you would gain a lot by going topless.

EDIT: In other news, Advanced Micro Devices Q4 14 Earnings Conference Call At 5:30 PM ET.

 

[AdamK47]

I vote delid.

 

[Shehriazad]

If you want better results then try lapping it.

Do not try to delid it. If you are asking for advice then that means you are obviously not at a professional level at this either. You will only rip apart the soldered chip...just don't do it.

Lapping can provide the advantages you're looking for and actually has a realistic chance of success.

I mean sure...you could try heating the CPU enough so the solder melts lmfao.

 

[Ketchup]

Just curious hunkeelin, have you delidded or sanded a CPU before?

Recommendation: start with something that costs a little less than $1,000 USD.

Also, I am curious as to what is running so slow on your computer that you think you need to delid a 5960 to overclock it more.

What kind of overclocks are you getting now, and what cooler are you using?

 

[xthetenth]

To achieve the desired thermals, a bong cooler would likely be an optimal solution, since it seems he has all the ingredients on hand.

 

[hunkeelin]

Just curious hunkeelin, have you delidded or sanded a CPU before?

Recommendation: start with something that costs a little less than $1,000 USD.

Also, I am curious as to what is running so slow on your computer that you think you need to delid a 5960 to overclock it more.

What kind of overclocks are you getting now, and what cooler are you using?

h240-x 4.3ghz 90C the first second when I run prime 95.

 

[Techhog]

very tiny soldiers, problem is they revert to regular size after 60 minutes. also, soviets.

Yes, I made a typo. I must have inhaled too many fumes last time I soldiered.

(Why is that a real word?)

 

[EightySix Four]

h240-x 4.3ghz 90C the first second when I run prime 95.

With or without AVX?

 

[Techhog]

Thanks. So I was thinking to sand down the lid CAREFULLY, then apply liquid pro then put a new cpu lid on. Do you guys think it will improve my oc results? Or soldier > liquid pro.

What are your current overclocking results?

h240-x 4.3ghz 90C the first second when I run prime 95.

Oh. Is that with adaptive voltage? And what is your voltage set to?

 

[EightySix Four]

What are you current overclocking results?

He mentioned that already, 4.3ghz, but his concern comes from hitting 90c in the first few seconds of Prime95. He is probably using AVX and getting the voltage boost...

 

[flexy]

h240-x 4.3ghz 90C the first second when I run prime 95.

Yeah welcome to Haswell Irony, since yours is SOLDERED it's basically already "delidded" and CLU-ed, or who tells you CLU would improve something? Solder == Metal, obviously.

 

[Ketchup]

h240-x 4.3ghz 90C the first second when I run prime 95.

So a 1.3 GHz overclock isn't enough? These chips are very fast, but very hot. But you would be buying this for the 8 cores more than straight-up clock speed anyway.

 

[tolis626]

Don't let anyone here talk you away from chasing your dream. They all fell victim to those lying and saying you cannot delid a 5960x. You can and by delidding you can drop your temps by up to 50% on the same cooler! 50%! So what if stripping the IHS from the die damages the die? Melt the thing! Nuke it! WAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! (In generic evil guy voice) :ninja:

In other news, cancer is caused by fungi and is 100% curable. Sports at 9:30pm.

 

[DrMrLordX]

OP, the main things you should be asking are: how much good should I expect from a delid, and what else can I do to improve my temps?

If you are running Prime95 28.5, you are getting AVX2 voltage levels, so that needs to factor into your decision as to whether or not you are thermally-limited. That aside, delidding a soldered CPU has always been a "hardcore" option that is mostly reserved for those willing to take big risks while taking a fairly considerable amount of technical skill and careful preparation to the table. Personally, I would not attempt the delid of a soldered chip. Yes, direct cooling of the die via a custom water loop does offer advantages, though you would do well to upgrade your cooling before attempting something such as a delid of a soldered CPU.

As good as is a h240-x, I'm fairly certain that's your bottleneck right there. Hitting any speed higher than 4.3 ghz on a 5960x is going to require more serious cooling. Lapping might help.

 

[hunkeelin]

^ So I need a custom loop. So i'm probably going expand my h240 + 1 more pump + 1 res + 1 radiator then.

 

[Techhog]

^ So I need a custom loop.

No, you need to answer my question on if you have it set to use adaptive voltage. If you do, either set the voltage to fixed when using Prime95, or don't use Prime95. You also need to tell us how much voltage you're using.

You seem to really want to use enthusiast methods though, so if that's really what you're fixed on doing, go for it.

 

[buklau]

I would go head and delid your chip. I did that to my 4690k, with CLU/MX2 combination, my prime95 temperatures drop from 100c to 83c on my hyper 212 evo cooler.

 

[hunkeelin]

No, you need to answer my question on if you have it set to use adaptive voltage. If you do, either set the voltage to fixed when using Prime95, or don't use Prime95. You also need to tell us how much voltage you're using.

You seem to really want to use enthusiast methods though, so if that's really what you're fixed on doing, go for it.

I don't know about adaptive voltage. I manually set my votlage to be 1.285v in bios.

 

[hunkeelin]

Do anyone whether my swiftech mcp30 pump can support a long res? Is it good enough to do that or it's garbage pump.

 

[Lepton87]

Do anyone whether my swiftech mcp30 pump can support a long res? Is it good enough to do that or it's garbage pump.

All you have is garbage, go buy a proper loop. Seriously, if you can afford a 1000$ CPU you can spent a 500$ for a proper cooling.

 

[mrpiggy]

If you paint it with primer between the CPU and water block and add a fart can exhaust to the fan, you will get a good 200Mhz extra, but only after you de-lid it of course! Ignore these naysayers! You can prove them wrong!

 

[Headfoot]

I heard if you put a spoiler on your case it goes faster. Same thing if you paint it red

 

[xthetenth]

I'm pretty sure a properly done delid can drop those temperatures to ambient. Stability's gonna take a nosedive though.

 

[Lepton87]

I'm pretty sure a properly done delid can drop those temperatures to ambient. Stability's gonna take a nosedive though.

The best way to drop the temperature that low is to turn off the computer. Unless there's an earthquake nearby the system should be rock stable.

 

[Ketchup]

h240-x 4.3ghz 90C the first second when I run prime 95.

That is a pretty good cooling setup. I have seen some claim that the Cooler Master performs slightly better, but at that point I would assume the difference is pretty marginal.