I was caught ‘walking while black’ by cops - A dean at University of N. Texas said so

umbrella39

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I think it's ridiculous you can't exercise without being questioned.
I think it's ridiculous you can't walk/run on the right side of a road in certain circles(been doing it for 40+ years and have never been questioned by Dearborn cops who by nature are very curious).

I think she is lucky George Zimmerman wasn't patrolling that sub instead...
 

realibrad

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I think that was totally unnecessary. Wasting her time and the cops time.

What? All they did was ask her to walk on the other side of the road so she could see cars coming. She then tried to make it a race thing. If those cops had wanted to, they could have given her a ticket, and would have been fully in their right to do so. Instead they just asked her to be safe.
 

realibrad

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I think it's ridiculous you can't exercise without being questioned.
I think it's ridiculous you can't walk/run on the right side of a road in certain circles(been doing it for 40+ years and have never been questioned by Dearborn cops who by nature are very curious).

I think she is lucky George Zimmerman wasn't patrolling that sub instead...

Did you watch the video? All they said was to walk on the other side of the road, that way she could see oncoming traffic.
 

umbrella39

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Did you watch the video? All they said was to walk on the other side of the road, that way she could see oncoming traffic.

Yes I saw it and I related my own experiences with it. I was born and raised in Dearborn, Michigan. Arguably the most racist city in America when I was growing up. I lived in an affluent sub. I walked, rode, ran on the right side of the street my entire life and have never once been questioned or told to use the other side of the street by the 1000's of cops that have driven by. I have also never worn a hoodie in my life.
 

HumblePie

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I think she should not walk on the street and should be on the side walk.


Her story and the response from the police chief is at the bottom of the article = http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/l...hy-bland-i-was-caught-walking-while-black.ece


Video of the encounter = http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/l...-chief-no-officers-were-doing-their-jobs..ece

What do ya'll think?

What is up with the recent idiots trying to turn every officer encounter into viral media bonanza on supposed faked racial bias of the officers?

Crying wolf too much is just going to do more harm than good. There are actual legitimate problems that have made it to the media, but this seriously is not one of them.
 

HumblePie

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Yes I saw it and I related my own experiences with it. I was born and raised in Dearborn, Michigan. Arguably the most racist city in America when I was growing up. I lived in an affluent sub. I walked, rode, ran on the right side of the street my entire life and have never once been questioned or told to use the other side of the street by the 1000's of cops that have driven by. I have also never worn a hoodie in my life.

She wasn't on the right side next to the sidewalk, she was in the direct path of traffic and making traffic stop behind her. As noted by the police that is a class C misdemeanor offense. Which is technically a crime.
 

umbrella39

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I also think if she were a hot blonde running with micro shorts and had big bouncing boobs, the odds of them bothering to do anything other than perform a drive by ogle would have been greatly reduced...
 

HumblePie

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I think the issue was running her ID, which is pretty ridiculous for that situation.

No, she was committed a crime and the cops wanted to run her ID because that is SOP when investigating a crime. Even then, they decided to let her go and tell her how to do her walk/run safely and without breaking the law further instead. They could have given her a ticket for impeding traffic but they didn't.
 

umbrella39

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She wasn't on the right side next to the sidewalk, she was in the direct path of traffic and making traffic stop behind her. As noted by the police that is a class C misdemeanor offense. Which is technically a crime.

The word sidewalk is no where in any of my posts... As stated, I have done exactly as she was doing so many times it's impossible to count and have never been told to move to the other side of the street.
 

realibrad

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I think the issue was running her ID, which is pretty ridiculous for that situation.

You know that I dont like that they ask for ID, but they are trained and advised to do so. When she said no, it was fine. The reason they do this is for the incidence report that they have to fill out. I think that is a shit policy, but it was not an indication that they were profiling her.
 

realibrad

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The word sidewalk is no where in any of my posts... As stated, I have done exactly as she was doing so many times it's impossible to count and have never been told to move to the other side of the street.

So, your argument is that they really were not concerned for her safety or the impact to drive, but they wanted to harass her by politely talking to her and suggesting that she walk on the other side of the road for safety?

If that is racism, then I wish people were more racist.
 

umbrella39

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So, your argument is that they really were not concerned for her safety or the impact to drive, but they wanted to harass her by politely talking to her and suggesting that she walk on the other side of the road for safety?

If that is racism, then I wish people were more racist.

I think they wanted to see who was under the hood any why their arms were flailing, not to protect her. I would be curious, too. So yes, I say her safety was none of their concern. Not so sure race had anything to do with it since they didn't know that behind her. But again I think that if it were just a hot blonde jogger not wearing a hoodie and not flailing their arms they wouldn't have bothered and would have drove right by.
 

realibrad

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I think they wanted to see who was under the hood any why their arms were flailing, not to protect her. So yes, I say her safety was none of their concern. Not so sure race had anything to do with it since they didn't know that behind her.

Why do you think they cared who was under the hood? What about their actions do you believe showed there was something more than her safety and the impact to drivers?
 

umbrella39

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Why do you think they cared who was under the hood? What about their actions do you believe showed there was something more than her safety and the impact to drivers?

FGS, I can't tell you any more clearly I done exactly as she was doing and have witnessed countless others doing the same think in my sub my entire life never seeing anyone stopped by the Dearborn police nor told to cross over to the other side of the street.

Someone with a hoodie acting like she was looks suspicious of possible crazy person or someone on drugs. I would have been curious, too, as a cop and would have used the same excuse they did for questioning her. Just looking out for your safety mame... yeah... whatever... It's really not rocket science.
 

umbrella39

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Prediction

This thread will go in many ugly directions.

I'm out

Same. I stated my opinion based on the only thing I can relate it to, my own real world experiences with a police department ran by the king of racists, Orville Hubbard and never needing to be protected from myself while on the street. I really doubt they questioned her because of her color, I think they questioned her because her actions did look somewhat suspicious.
 

trenchfoot

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Have the cops been disciplined or fired yet? /s

Amazing how, in her effort to somehow "defend her rights" she had to spin the whole incident into a racially motivated confrontation so as to come out the "winner".

I'd like to hear from a learned psychiatrist as to what motivated her to defend herself in the manner that she had during the stop and what was it in her that motivated her to share her side of the story in the way she did.

I'm really curious as to how she could interpret the incident in the way that she described it. I mean, did she actually think in her mind that her version of the incident was the honest truth, or was it her way of "standing her ground" and defending her rights as a "woman of color" in order to justify her being publicly humiliated and harassed "for no damn reason at all"?

Taking pictures of the cops? Really? Paranoid any? Watching too many white cops on blacks videos or something?

I mean it's like she was all set and prepared in her mind just for that kind of incident to happen.

Must be pretty scary to have to think and live that way.
 

senseamp

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I was jogging at night and a cop drove by and asked me if I broke up with my girlfriend... I was going to tell him, "no, me and your mom are still cool," but thought better of it.
 

trenchfoot

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I was jogging at night and a cop drove by and asked me if I broke up with my girlfriend... I was going to tell him, "no, me and your mom are still cool," but thought better of it.

Growing up in the neighborhood I lived in with the kind of friends I had, by the time I was in my early teens us guys and the cops were on a first name basis. If any of us had told the cops what you had in mind, they would have laughed it off as a pretty good joke and then take us for a ride a few miles down the road and make us walk back home.
 

realibrad

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FGS, I can't tell you any more clearly I done exactly as she was doing and have witnessed countless others doing the same think in my sub my entire life never seeing anyone stopped by the Dearborn police nor told to cross over to the other side of the street.

Someone with a hoodie acting like she was looks suspicious of possible crazy person or someone on drugs. I would have been curious, too, as a cop and would have used the same excuse they did for questioning her. Just looking out for your safety mame... yeah... whatever... It's really not rocket science.

So you think she was acting suspicious and that you would have stopped her too?

They why did yous say this with the implication this was a bad thing?

I think it's ridiculous you can't exercise without being questioned.

Its not ridiculous to you because you feel there was a valid logical reason, but your first comment seems to conflict with that.
 

senseamp

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Growing up in the neighborhood I lived in with the kind of friends I had, by the time I was in my early teens us guys and the cops were on a first name basis. If any of us had told the cops what you had in mind, they would have laughed it off as a pretty good joke and then take us for a ride a few miles down the road and make us walk back home.

It's a more urban area here
 

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Uhm, not seeing any issue. Seemed like a pleasant stop to me. They even shook hands at the end. She had a hoodie up with full sleeves and long pants when they were behind her so they wouldn't have known she was black until she turned around after the stop was initiated.

I would consider that it may have been an exploratory stop due to how she was moving. Flapping her arms and walking right at the point of a jog. As soon as he notices she was exercising and it wasn't a mental health issue, their guard drops.
 
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