I was caught ‘walking while black’ by cops - A dean at University of N. Texas said so

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FerrelGeek

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She's training the kids to work at CNN, CNBC, or MSNBC.

"Dorothy Bland is the dean of the Frank W. and Sue Mayborn School of Journalism and the director for the Frank W. Mayborn Graduate Institute of Journalism at the University of North Texas."

If her diatribe was any indication of the kind of journalism she once taught and now promotes as Dean of Journalism, then all I can say is I pity those students that look to her as a role model.

She embellished, she lied, she misrepresented, she misinterpreted to forward a cause that deserves much better than what she alleged in her fairy tale.

Yellow journalism at its finest.
 

realibrad

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Sorry.
Communication breakdown I guess.

So are you saying that you would have been mad at first until you realized that you had done something wrong, or are you saying that you would be mad because you think its not something worth correcting?
 

HumblePie

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roflmfao!

Not that this would apply to you humble, you are "humble" after all.

When it comes to statements about laws I have not.

Also read the sig about where humblepie comes from.

You however have been shown to be wrong multiple times in many threads and have sent of vacation for intentional trolling in some cases.

Now my statement above isn't the same as stating I've never been wrong on these forums, I have and come out even afterward and state where I was wrong. Very easy to find that with the search engine. I also try not to argue in the absolute unless I'm pretty much 100% certain about it being an absolute. I know I just made a couple of absolute statements here but then again that's because I am 100% certain about them.

Just like eski was wrong in this thread here after not only I, but several others have pointed out the law in Texas in this scenario of this topic.
 

Blanky

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I think the issue was running her ID, which is pretty ridiculous for that situation.
No, that isn't the issue and isn't how she represented it.

She was stopped because she was actually walking dead center in the street at one point. Asking for ID was unnecessary but the reason for the stop was because she was walking while stupid, not while black.

I have also been stopped by police when running on the right side of the road, for the exact same reason.
 

Ackmed

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From the Chief;

If we didn’t have the video, these officers would have serious allegations against them," Walthall added. "It would be their word against hers. Every white officer that stops an African-American does not constitute racial profiling.

This is exactly true, these cops would be dragged through the mud. Instead video proves they were right. In fact, the woman did everything wrong. Lying, insinuating, and acting like an ass. Very glad this backfired on her. It is extremely sad to see people here even think the cops did wrong at all. REALLY shows bias and proves they can't be taken seriously in other threads. Very hypocritical of them, but also typical.
 

Humpy

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From the Chief;



This is exactly true, these cops would be dragged through the mud. Instead video proves they were right. In fact, the woman did everything wrong. Lying, insinuating, and acting like an ass. Very glad this backfired on her. It is extremely sad to see people here even think the cops did wrong at all. REALLY shows bias and proves they can't be taken seriously in other threads. Very hypocritical of them, but also typical.

Good point. You'd think that police officers nationwide would have long ago unanimously embraced the power of video to prevent being unfairly dragged through the mud by all the outlandish lies and insinuations. :\
 
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One of the reasons why some folks prefer street over sidewalk is that sidewalks can be uneven. All the little dips as rises for driveways and streets + whatever roots might cause subtle variation can throw you off. Plus over time\distance those little "step ups" to sidewalks add up. since you can't exact pick the leg you do the step up with you end up with one leg taking the brunt of it. Streets offer a more consistent surface.

I'll agree to a certain extent but here are a few points:

1. Sidewalks are ONLY uneven if the neighborhood (like mine) does INCREDIBLY STUPID SHIT like putting trees in the gap between the side-walk and the street. Roots grow underneath and (naturally) it makes cracks and will make the ground HORRIBLY uneven. Othertimes, sidewalks are absolutely fine. So that's not always the case.

2. If you're WALKING and not RUNNING. There is no reason to worry about twisting your ankle. You are going slow enough to be able to react, let alone see anything ahead of time.

3. I'll take an ankle sprain over being close to the stupid shithead drivers I see in my neighborhood.
 
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Calling in her Name and DOB was complete unnecessary under normal circumstances but in a training scenario I can see why they took her info because paper work. I can't fault the officers on this one. This is coming from someone who thinks a lot of cops are dickheads with an entitlement complex

How is calling in someones name/dob EVER unnecessary? We have an absolute SHITLOAD of people out walking around on the streets all the time, proper protocol says run them to see if they are on any lists (sex offenders, people with warrants, unpaid tickets, etc...). All of that is this thing called... uhmmm... What was it again?

Oh yeah, USEFUL INFORMATION.

For the record, as an oppressed white male - I have NEVER been pulled over by an officer and not had my license/registration not been taken. It must have been racism!
 

Double Trouble

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Another lying social justice warrior dipshit exposed. Glad those cops had video of the event.

There are plenty of asshole cops and even criminal cops. We don't need to besmirch normal cops doing their job.
 

momeNt

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running on the left or right side of the street is probably worse than the sidewalk.

Unless the sidewalk is heaved from nearby trees or freeze/thaw cycles or wasn't on properly compacted subgrade, it is going to be flatter than a typical street. Streets are pitched 1-2% for drainage, so the foot towards the curb is constantly lower than the foot towards the center. Increased ankle strain, knee strain, hip and back strain. all that against just paying attention to cracks in the sidewalk.

But hey, chiropractors and joint specialists need to make their money somehow, so walk in the street idiots.
 

pauldun170

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How is calling in someones name/dob EVER unnecessary? We have an absolute SHITLOAD of people out walking around on the streets all the time, proper protocol says run them to see if they are on any lists (sex offenders, people with warrants, unpaid tickets, etc...). All of that is this thing called... uhmmm... What was it again?

Oh yeah, USEFUL INFORMATION.

For the record, as an oppressed white male - I have NEVER been pulled over by an officer and not had my license/registration not been taken. It must have been racism!

The officers that spoke to her was a rookie and a trainer.
Most likely called it in because that's the official procedure and in a training situation everything would be by the book.
 

pauldun170

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I'll agree to a certain extent but here are a few points:

1. Sidewalks are ONLY uneven if the neighborhood (like mine) does INCREDIBLY STUPID SHIT like putting trees in the gap between the side-walk and the street. Roots grow underneath and (naturally) it makes cracks and will make the ground HORRIBLY uneven. Othertimes, sidewalks are absolutely fine. So that's not always the case.

2. If you're WALKING and not RUNNING. There is no reason to worry about twisting your ankle. You are going slow enough to be able to react, let alone see anything ahead of time.

3. I'll take an ankle sprain over being close to the stupid shithead drivers I see in my neighborhood.

Once you go street, you never go back (or something like that)
 

cubby1223

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Once you go street, you never go back (or something like that)

And once you go street you immediately learn the benefits of walking on the left side.

Someone running on the right side, if the person has a phone playing music into earbuds, this person cannot hear cars coming up behind, and all it takes is an inadvertent veer into the center (which this woman in the video did do) and BAM!
 

Humpy

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I'll agree to a certain extent but here are a few points:

1. Sidewalks are ONLY uneven if the neighborhood (like mine) does INCREDIBLY STUPID SHIT like putting trees in the gap between the side-walk and the street. Roots grow underneath and (naturally) it makes cracks and will make the ground HORRIBLY uneven. Othertimes, sidewalks are absolutely fine. So that's not always the case.

Capitalizing "ONLY" and "INCREDIBLY STUPID SHIT" did a nice job of drawing attention to your nonsense. Sidewalks also move quite a bit from frost heave, thermal expansion, and settling, not to mention the intentional unevenness at driveways.

Everything else you post is just as dumb.
 

momeNt

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Capitalizing "ONLY" and "INCREDIBLY STUPID SHIT" did a nice job of drawing attention to your nonsense. Sidewalks also move quite a bit from frost heave, thermal expansion, and settling, not to mention the intentional unevenness at driveways.

Everything else you post is just as dumb.

It's dynamically uneven, which brings about its own benefits as a form of cross training. Blind people walk on the sidewalk, is trying to run on the sidewalk more difficult than trying to walk while blind? Stop being an idiot.

Running on a cambered surface is not worth the risk of stress injuries.
 

Humpy

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And once you go street you immediately learn the benefits of walking on the left side.

Someone running on the right side, if the person has a phone playing music into earbuds, this person cannot hear cars coming up behind, and all it takes is an inadvertent veer into the center (which this woman in the video did do) and BAM!

I guess everyone has different experiences and expectations of how things are in residential neighborhoods. My experience is that the importance of operating a motor vehicle unimpeded through the streets falls a distant last behind use by walkers, joggers, children riding bikes, parents pushing strollers, yappy dogs running around, playing catch with friends, ladies gossiping, and pant-less old guys cursing at clouds.

If a driver in a residential area isn't expecting any and all of that to occur, and drives in a manner unable to avoid the expected and unexpected, he is being negligent and needs to GTFO.

I don't get how so many place such a high value on driving. What the fuck kind of life do you want to live where pedestrians should rightly be hassled to preserve your freedom to drive your fat ass to whatever insignificant place you're going to.
 

Humpy

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It's dynamically uneven, which brings about its own benefits as a form of cross training. Blind people walk on the sidewalk, is trying to run on the sidewalk more difficult than trying to walk while blind? Stop being an idiot.

Running on a cambered surface is not worth the risk of stress injuries.



What's the point of replying to my post about causes of sidewalk unevenness with some shit about blind people and cross training?

Also, many runners prefer asphalt to concrete because they feel it reduces injury potential.
 
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momeNt

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Your opinions mean nothing to me.

Nice attention span. What's the point of replying to my post about causes of sidewalk unevenness with some shit about blind people and cross training?

Also, many runners prefer asphalt to concrete because they feel it reduces injury potential.

Yea, they would be wrong.

Not only does your opinion mean nothing to ME, but you as a person mean nothing to me. It's an internet forum, nobody gives a shit about anybody or anything they say. It's part of the rules of engagement.
 

Ackmed

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I guess everyone has different experiences and expectations of how things are in residential neighborhoods. My experience is that the importance of operating a motor vehicle unimpeded through the streets falls a distant last behind use by walkers, joggers, children riding bikes, parents pushing strollers, yappy dogs running around, playing catch with friends, ladies gossiping, and pant-less old guys cursing at clouds.

If a driver in a residential area isn't expecting any and all of that to occur, and drives in a manner unable to avoid the expected and unexpected, he is being negligent and needs to GTFO.

I don't get how so many place such a high value on driving. What the fuck kind of life do you want to live where pedestrians should rightly be hassled to preserve your freedom to drive your fat ass to whatever insignificant place you're going to.

This is pretty hilarious. You can't always tell what a person is going to do. Someone can dart in front of a vehicle before you can do anything. She could have, and did very easily get right into the road. You don't know that the person was going somewhere insignificant, or that they were fat. She was acting suspicious, and causing a traffic problem. The cops were very polite, even when she was acting an ass. It was a completely legal stop, that she tried to make racial and it backfired on the bitch.
 

momeNt

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This is pretty hilarious. You can't always tell what a person is going to do. Someone can dart in front of a vehicle before you can do anything. She could have, and did very easily get right into the road. You don't know that the person was going somewhere insignificant, or that they were fat. She was acting suspicious, and causing a traffic problem. The cops were very polite, even when she was acting an ass. It was a completely legal stop, that she tried to make racial and it backfired on the bitch.

The point he is trying to make is that

walkers, joggers, children riding bikes, parents pushing strollers, yappy dogs running around, playing catch with friends, ladies gossiping, and pant-less old guys cursing at clouds.

they have just as much a right, if not more to use the road. Especially in a residential neighborhood. PASSING them, is never advisable, you can never hit them, regardless of how much they veer into the center of the road, if you never attempt to pass them. "Whatever insignificant place you're going to" is never worth the potential danger of passing a fellow resident, in a RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD!!!

Don't just get off my lawn, get off my street you pesky driver.
 

Ackmed

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I understand what his attempted point was. That was not the only reason for the stop. She was acting suspicious, or perhaps mentally ill. Checking on her, advising her that running on the other side of the road is completely logically and reasonable. This isn't about any of those other examples he used, this is a very specific example.

I am also never going to drive 4mph behind someone for any length of time. I will pass them, giving plenty of room. That doesn't mean rocky there couldn't juke and jive right in my way again.
 

Humpy

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Yea, they would be wrong.

Whenever the discussion of running on asphalt/concrete has come up the other 96 million times people will often point to the study from "Human Movement and Science" showing asphalt is significantly easier on the body than concrete. They will also point to simple compression test results of the two materials to show that concrete is "softer". Since the large majority of sidewalks are concrete and a large majority of paved roads are asphalt one might understand why it is so common to see runners on roads rather than sidewalks.

Not only does your opinion mean nothing to ME, but you as a person mean nothing to me. It's an internet forum, nobody gives a shit about anybody or anything they say. It's part of the rules of engagement.

I wish I wouldn't have posted that comment. It was dumb.
 

NoCreativity

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I guess everyone has different experiences and expectations of how things are in residential neighborhoods. My experience is that the importance of operating a motor vehicle unimpeded through the streets falls a distant last behind use by walkers, joggers, children riding bikes, parents pushing strollers, yappy dogs running around, playing catch with friends, ladies gossiping, and pant-less old guys cursing at clouds.

If a driver in a residential area isn't expecting any and all of that to occur, and drives in a manner unable to avoid the expected and unexpected, he is being negligent and needs to GTFO.

I don't get how so many place such a high value on driving. What the fuck kind of life do you want to live where pedestrians should rightly be hassled to preserve your freedom to drive your fat ass to whatever insignificant place you're going to.

Sounds like you live in a neighborhood full of selfish assholes.

I expect courtesy from both drivers and pedestrians. My experience from the neighborhoods I have lived in is that most pedestrians try not to impede the flow of traffic. And most drivers give pedestrians plenty of room while passing.
 
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