I was hit. :-o

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
I'm 17, she's 15.

We weren't on a date or anything, we just went to a mutual friends house.

We stopped outside her house, and out of nowhere he hit me with this toy or something.

No discussion or anything.

ehh..ur 17, she's 15..both of u minors...both of came home late...dude, if i had a daughter who's 15...and some stupid kid took her out 'till late w/o my contention...i'll kick his ass as well......he just punched u..that's it...that's nothing..i woulda done worse....there's dads out there who woulda done worse...BE THANKFUL that he didn't do worse u stupid dumb@ss.....

yeah,...maybe the dad overreacted...but you should grow up....suing over this? give me a break........ur 17 and you're acting like 10...suck it up

 

[CChaos]

Thraxen--It's not something that needs to involve the criminal justice system. Are you saying it's alright for kids to do whatever they want with no repurcussions. Do you think this guy was happy to find his 15 year old daughter was not at home? What's his recourse? No one is advocating violence, but drawing this in black and white is ridiculous. No one is in the right in this situation as so often happens when real people have conflicts.

ScottyB--Idealism is cute.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Rogue
ScottyB,

You have no idea what it's like, none. This case is a no brainer. I suppose I should write a traffic citation for every time I see someone speeding then? Or every time someone is playing their music too loud? Or every time someone breaks a law that is on the books, right? At the all knowing age of 19 in college and with a page title of "Deranged Fool" and an aspiring actor, I'm gonna put a lot of faith in your views on the real world, yeah, that's what I'll do. I've been a cop for over 8 years now. You've been a cop for, never, so I guess you know what you're talking about. Hey, maybe you played a cop in a play about a 15 year old girl taken out of her home by a 17 year old and you arrested the father and put the bastard away for life for simply thinking out loud about throwing a plastic toy at someone? That must be it. Speak not of something you know nothing about. Oh wait, that's what actors do, sorry. Yes, I'm making this personal now.

Actually I am 20, want to be a producer/writer or director and I think hitting a minor is a very serious offence. The guy didn't even ask him what they were doing. The least you could do would be to check into it, not laugh at him and tell him to go home.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
I called police. They said they cant do report over phone, come in tommorow morning.

I did nothing to provoke the attack. He was asleep, she snuck out with no permission. We came back, stopped, and then he approached from the left side of the car and hit me, called me an asshole, I pressed gas slightly, he tried to grab key, I drove up road and stopped, she got out, I left.

If she is 15, all he will do is have YOU arrested. You can't pick up a 15 year old after they snuck out. Somethign along the line of depriviety of a minor or something. So when you file that police report you will also be confessing.

Good job corky, not only are you a idiot, but you are giving the father and police a confession.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: Rogue
ScottyB,

You have no idea what it's like, none. This case is a no brainer. I suppose I should write a traffic citation for every time I see someone speeding then? Or every time someone is playing their music too loud? Or every time someone breaks a law that is on the books, right? At the all knowing age of 19 in college and with a page title of "Deranged Fool" and an aspiring actor, I'm gonna put a lot of faith in your views on the real world, yeah, that's what I'll do. I've been a cop for over 8 years now. You've been a cop for, never, so I guess you know what you're talking about. Hey, maybe you played a cop in a play about a 15 year old girl taken out of her home by a 17 year old and you arrested the father and put the bastard away for life for simply thinking out loud about throwing a plastic toy at someone? That must be it. Speak not of something you know nothing about. Oh wait, that's what actors do, sorry. Yes, I'm making this personal now.

Actually I am 20, want to be a producer/writer or director and I think hitting a minor is a very serious offence. The guy didn't even ask him what they were doing. The least you could do would be to check into it, not laugh at him and tell him to go home.

i'd beat the crap out of a minor any day if he took my daughter out for the night w/o me knowing.....

amdforever2...why'd u even post this..u knw that u deserved what u recieved.......pshhh...stupid idiot

 

[Izzo]

Preach on Rogue! If I were Max Kellerman, I'd give you about 100 points for those last few arguments. :beer:

You get bonus points for:

Don't give me your whiny little, "But, but he hit me" bull$hit either, I'm not buying it. To the rest of you condoning his actions and encouraging him to press charges and/or sue. I hope to god you never have a teenage daughter because if and when you do, you'd beat the $hit out of this little piss ant yourself. All he did was damage your tiny, little juvenile ego a bit, get over it and move on.

and

Third, you are obviously a part of either this current generation or a generation past that insists on taking no responsibility for their own irresponsible actions.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: Izzo
Preach on Rogue! If I were Max Kellerman, I'd give you about 100 points for those last few arguments. :beer:

You get bonus points for:

Don't give me your whiny little, "But, but he hit me" bull$hit either, I'm not buying it. To the rest of you condoning his actions and encouraging him to press charges and/or sue. I hope to god you never have a teenage daughter because if and when you do, you'd beat the $hit out of this little piss ant yourself. All he did was damage your tiny, little juvenile ego a bit, get over it and move on.

and

Third, you are obviously a part of either this current generation or a generation past that insists on taking no responsibility for their own irresponsible actions.

:beer:

amen to that

 

[Thraxen]

Thraxen--It's not something that needs to involve the criminal justice system. Are you saying it's alright for kids to do whatever they want with no repurcussions. Do you think this guy was happy to find his 15 year old daughter was not at home? What's his recourse? No one is advocating violence, but drawing this in black and white is ridiculous. No one is in the right in this situation as so often happens when real people have conflicts.

What's his recourse? How about grounding his daughter and/or taking away other privileges and making a call to the boy's parents right then in the early hours of the morning and letting them know what he did? I mean, really, does no one know how to parent anymore?

And, again, we obviously don't have all the facts so you can't just dismiss what the father did. Has he done this before? Does he often react with physical violence... perhaps even toward his daughter? He also made a grab for the guy's cars keys, what would he have done had he actually taken them? I'm not drawing this in back and white, in fact, I'm one of the only one's who isn't!

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Gargle with some vinegar and water and get over it you pussy.

 

[Amused]

Sorry, but you're not going to get much sympathy from me. If a whiny little sh!t like you brought my daughter home late, I'd want to knock you upside the head, too.

 

[Falcon2k]

I just read the first part of the post and damn that was dissapointing. First thing i saw, SUE. This is not court material dude. You took his daughter out without his permission late at night. Hell, he could have been sitting in his house, found out that his daughter was gone, been biting his fingernails off for the past 2 hours in worry and then you show up with his daughter. Wont u be angry? True, it was a bit hasty of him to hit u straight up, but think about it. If you want his daughter, you gotta be friendly with him too. You dont sue anyone who calls you an asshole. Forget about it, life goes on. If you cant take that kind of thing, then how the hell are you going to live with the rest of life? Immoral things happen in the workplace on a regular basis (trust me, i know, my dad bitches about it every day after work and i have to help him write his reports cuz his english is crap). So live with it, take it like a man and move on. Push dosnt always have to come to shove. Sometimes it does, but avoid it as much as possible.

 

[CChaos]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

What's his recourse? How about grounding his daughter and/or taking away other privileges and making a call to the boy's parents right then in the early hours of the morning and letting them know what he did? I mean, really, does no one know how to parent anymore?

And, again, we obviously don't have all the facts so you can't just dismiss what the father did. Has he done this before? Does he often react with physical violence... perhaps even toward his daughter? He also made a grab for the guy's cars keys, what would he have done had he actually taken them? I'm not drawing this in back and white, in fact, I'm one of the only one's who isn't!

Ah I see now. This situation demands a full investigation of the violent tendencies of this gentleman. After all he could be beating his daughter! Clearly this is all about bad parenting and our hero amdforever2 is an innocent bystander.

Dude he got hit with a toy for being a dumbass. Speculate all you want.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
So what... do we actually have people here practically advocating hitting minors with hard objects everytime they break curfew or cause a friend to do so?? WTF? Who the hell didn't break a curfew growing up? The fact that he was hit with a toy is totally irrelevant... don't think so? I'll be glad to whack any of you with a Tonka truck and see what you think. Granted, we don't really have all the facts (i.e. how hard was he hit, etc...), but that is exactly the reason you shouldn't be dismissing it like it was nothing. And, no, I'm not advocating suing.

It's amazing seeing the # of people up here willing to assault a minor.

Amazing....

Sad, really.

So, to you who would punch/beat up/kick the ass of a minor, you would rather spend some time in jail, have to post bail, go to court, etc. because you lost your temper and beat up a KID?

You're no better than the people you bash who beat up umpires at t-ball games or hit kids there, too. What's the difference there? Hmmm????

Grow some brains! I'd be willing to bet most aren't parents. A good parent would know what to do in a situation like this. And, heck, I'll offer up that a good parent wouldn't even BE in this situation with their daughter/son.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Thraxen
So what... do we actually have people here practically advocating hitting minors with hard objects everytime they break curfew or cause a friend to do so?? WTF? Who the hell didn't break a curfew growing up? The fact that he was hit with a toy is totally irrelevant... don't think so? I'll be glad to whack any of you with a Tonka truck and see what you think. Granted, we don't really have all the facts (i.e. how hard was he hit, etc...), but that is exactly the reason you shouldn't be dismissing it like it was nothing. And, no, I'm not advocating suing.

It's amazing seeing the # of people up here willing to assault a minor.

Amazing....

Sad, really.

So, to you who would punch/beat up/kick the ass of a minor, you would rather spend some time in jail, have to post bail, go to court, etc. because you lost your temper and beat up a KID?

You're no better than the people you bash who beat up umpires at t-ball games or hit kids there, too. What's the difference there? Hmmm????

Grow some brains! I'd be willing to bet most aren't parents. A good parent would know what to do in a situation like this. And, heck, I'll offer up that a good parent wouldn't even BE in this situation with their daughter/son.

I have to agree. You people are being fvcking retarded.

Having your daughter out past her curfew does NOT give you the right to assault a 17 year old kid. Your daughter willingly chose to break your rules, not the kid. He may have known that she was doing this, but it still doesn't give you the right to take an "eye for a finger nail" or some other distorted punishment.

 

[Kev]

after reading this stupid-assed thread, i'm glad you got hit. i hope he hits you again

 

[Falcon2k]

Humans are creatures of emotion...

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Thraxen
So what... do we actually have people here practically advocating hitting minors with hard objects everytime they break curfew or cause a friend to do so?? WTF? Who the hell didn't break a curfew growing up? The fact that he was hit with a toy is totally irrelevant... don't think so? I'll be glad to whack any of you with a Tonka truck and see what you think. Granted, we don't really have all the facts (i.e. how hard was he hit, etc...), but that is exactly the reason you shouldn't be dismissing it like it was nothing. And, no, I'm not advocating suing.

It's amazing seeing the # of people up here willing to assault a minor.

Amazing....

Sad, really.

So, to you who would punch/beat up/kick the ass of a minor, you would rather spend some time in jail, have to post bail, go to court, etc. because you lost your temper and beat up a KID?

You're no better than the people you bash who beat up umpires at t-ball games or hit kids there, too. What's the difference there? Hmmm????

Grow some brains! I'd be willing to bet most aren't parents. A good parent would know what to do in a situation like this. And, heck, I'll offer up that a good parent wouldn't even BE in this situation with their daughter/son.

I have to agree. You people are being fvcking retarded.

Having your daughter out past her curfew does NOT give you the right to assault a 17 year old kid. Your daughter willingly chose to break your rules, not the kid. He may have known that she was doing this, but it still doesn't give you the right to take an "eye for a finger nail" or some other distorted punishment.

sooo i c..YOU WON'T GET MAD AND AGITATED WHEN THIS HAPPENS TO YOUR DAUGHTER I SEE...

..get real dude...of course we don't want to beat anyone up, but get real..amdforever2 deserved that smack.....anyone who's a father of a girl would have done the same....

 

[Nitemare]

Best case scenario. "You apologize to him for sneaking his 15 y/o daughter out and ask for a fresh start"

Worst case scenario You file a report charging him for assault. He spends a night in jail.
When he gets out he files a report that you kidnapped a minor. You spend months in jail getting sodomized by a large hairy man named Bubba.

Choose wisely grasshopper

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: Booty
Well, let's see... if I was a parent and had a 15 year old daughter, I'd be nervous about her dating an older guy in the first place. Then if she snuck out late to be somewhere with him, and I didn't know where they were or what they had been up to... well, just put yourself in his shoes...

What if he went to check on her for some reason and found her gone? And you haven't said anything about what was going on in the car... if I see my daugter coming back from sneaking out, making out with an older guy in his car... well, I probably wouldn't hit him. But I'd be pretty pissed and can't say (without hearing both sides) that I necessarily blame this guy for "assaulting" you (did it even hurt?).

On top of all that, it sounds like you were well-aware that she was sneaking out, which just isn't cool. It's disrespectful... and if you care at all about the girl then you should care about her parents' wishes (which to my knowledge werent' unreasonable). I can't believe you have the nerve to try to sue or press charges after this... that's about as logical as him pressing charges for kidnapping or something. Good lord... what you should be doing is apologizing for taking his daughter out past curfew.

I mean, damn, am I alone here or does anyone else hear crap like this and feel like society's on a downward spiral?

It's always been on a downward spiral. This just emphasizes that.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Thraxen
So what... do we actually have people here practically advocating hitting minors with hard objects everytime they break curfew or cause a friend to do so?? WTF? Who the hell didn't break a curfew growing up? The fact that he was hit with a toy is totally irrelevant... don't think so? I'll be glad to whack any of you with a Tonka truck and see what you think. Granted, we don't really have all the facts (i.e. how hard was he hit, etc...), but that is exactly the reason you shouldn't be dismissing it like it was nothing. And, no, I'm not advocating suing.

It's amazing seeing the # of people up here willing to assault a minor.

Amazing....

Sad, really.

So, to you who would punch/beat up/kick the ass of a minor, you would rather spend some time in jail, have to post bail, go to court, etc. because you lost your temper and beat up a KID?

You're no better than the people you bash who beat up umpires at t-ball games or hit kids there, too. What's the difference there? Hmmm????

Grow some brains! I'd be willing to bet most aren't parents. A good parent would know what to do in a situation like this. And, heck, I'll offer up that a good parent wouldn't even BE in this situation with their daughter/son.

I have to agree. You people are being fvcking retarded.

Having your daughter out past her curfew does NOT give you the right to assault a 17 year old kid. Your daughter willingly chose to break your rules, not the kid. He may have known that she was doing this, but it still doesn't give you the right to take an "eye for a finger nail" or some other distorted punishment.

sooo i c..YOU WON'T GET MAD AND AGITATED WHEN THIS HAPPENS TO YOUR DAUGHTER I SEE...

..get real dude...of course we don't want to beat anyone up, but get real..amdforever2 deserved that smack.....anyone who's a father of a girl would have done the same....

I will say it yet again, in simpler terms.

Deserving does not equal a legal right to do something. It's plain and simple. The father is in the wrong, whether amd was doing the daughter in the butt or not.

 

[Rogue]

You two might be right, however, you must take into account the emotion involved with the potential kidnapping and/or abduction of this guy's daughter. It may be the first time she's done it, or the first time she's been caught, either way, you must take the parents emotion into account, as well as the amount of physical harm brought upon the 17 year old under the circumstances. I don't recall condoning violence upon the kid, however, there's no real case here for legal action of any kind. We don't know what the father said to this kid and we don't know that the kid was smug and arrogant, as most 17 year olds can be when confronted for doing something wrong. I would have exercised an immense amount of physical restraint under the circumstances had it been my daughter, but lord knows I would have wanted to lay that kid out for his actions. My daughter would become a modern day Rapunzel for her actions too and I would strike the fear of god into her psyche forever more. As stated by someone else, you're trying to make this situation a black and white ordeal and there's some gray here. Everyone involved was wrong in some way or another. If I wanted to play hardball with this, I'd charge the 15 year old for being out past curfew. The father for assault and the 17 year old for contributing to the delinquency of a minor or some other offense on the books that applies. I know for a fact that there's laws on the books to charge each and every one of them with something, but it would make no sense to do so. This 17 year old should notify his parents of the incident and let the parents settle it amongst themselves. I'm sure his father will be more than willing to take care of his own son's actions in his own way.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Thraxen
So what... do we actually have people here practically advocating hitting minors with hard objects everytime they break curfew or cause a friend to do so?? WTF? Who the hell didn't break a curfew growing up? The fact that he was hit with a toy is totally irrelevant... don't think so? I'll be glad to whack any of you with a Tonka truck and see what you think. Granted, we don't really have all the facts (i.e. how hard was he hit, etc...), but that is exactly the reason you shouldn't be dismissing it like it was nothing. And, no, I'm not advocating suing.

It's amazing seeing the # of people up here willing to assault a minor.

Amazing....

Sad, really.

So, to you who would punch/beat up/kick the ass of a minor, you would rather spend some time in jail, have to post bail, go to court, etc. because you lost your temper and beat up a KID?

You're no better than the people you bash who beat up umpires at t-ball games or hit kids there, too. What's the difference there? Hmmm????

Grow some brains! I'd be willing to bet most aren't parents. A good parent would know what to do in a situation like this. And, heck, I'll offer up that a good parent wouldn't even BE in this situation with their daughter/son.

I have to agree. You people are being fvcking retarded.

Having your daughter out past her curfew does NOT give you the right to assault a 17 year old kid. Your daughter willingly chose to break your rules, not the kid. He may have known that she was doing this, but it still doesn't give you the right to take an "eye for a finger nail" or some other distorted punishment.

sooo i c..YOU WON'T GET MAD AND AGITATED WHEN THIS HAPPENS TO YOUR DAUGHTER I SEE...

..get real dude...of course we don't want to beat anyone up, but get real..amdforever2 deserved that smack.....anyone who's a father of a girl would have done the same....

As I posted before, I would punish my daughter and speak to the boy's parents...in person...not over the phone, not via email. My daughter wouldn't be going out for the rest of summer and I'd be coming home to weekly completed book reviews and daily completed math homework assignments.

To commit an act of violence shows a lack of intelligence (or a rage of emotion so strong as to overcome reason - such as in a jealous rage over a cheating spouse). To commit an act of violence against a KID is completely ridiculous. The father should be charged with assault and battery.

 

[Amused]

The kid is 17. If he's old enough to join the army and die for his country (he is) he's old enough to face the wrath of a 15 year old girl's dad.

When did we become so pussified that a father is screwed for slapping the sh!t out of some stupid kid who took liberties with his daughter??

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Amused
The kid is 17. If he's old enough to join the army and die for his country (he is) he's old enough to face the wrath of a 15 year old girl's dad.

When did we become so pussified that a father is screwed for slapping the sh!t out of some stupid kid who took liberties with his daughter??

Because it's called assault and battery and, last I knew, that was illegal.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Amused
The kid is 17. If he's old enough to join the army and die for his country (he is) he's old enough to face the wrath of a 15 year old girl's dad.

When did we become so pussified that a father is screwed for slapping the sh!t out of some stupid kid who took liberties with his daughter??

Because it's called assault and battery and, last I knew, that was illegal.

Oh boo, fscking hoo. He tossed a toy at the little sh!t. Get over it.

Had he beat the living daylights out of him, I'd agree with you. But he didn't.