I was thinking about incest and gay people and brain-conditioning earlier

[JDrake]

k:
Let's say that you were born and your mom put you up for adoption...
a coupleish years later, your mom has another child (same father).. however this time, she has a baby of the opposite sex and 'it' was adopted out (or raised, it doesn't matter) and both of you grew up separately and didn't know each other

fast-forward 20 or so years....
you two see each other in a bar or w/e.. you could easily find the other one attractive/start up a relationship

however, you would never find your ACTUAL sister/brother attractive if you've grown up with them
Was your brain like conditioned to not find your sibling attractive, just because that's wrong or whatnot?

now the gay people:
in a similar sense, if a 'normal' person chooses they want to be gay, couldn't they condition themselves to find the same sex attractive?
people might say that being gay, however, is 'part of your genetics' because gay people only get aroused physically around people of their same sex whom they find attractive.. well
people are the same way with their family members...
most men will find a naked lady attractive and get aroused, however, if they saw their sister/sibiling naked they would just be disgusted/the least bit aroused

I guess, technically, incest would ruin this, but that is such a small portion and those people probably grow up in an environment where it is more acceptable to incesticize and might not be conditioned
any thoughts?

/thinking out loud

 

[Inspector Jihad]

stop trying to peek in on your sister.

 

[TBone48]

Dude, maybe you shouldn't think so much. Or at least keep it to yourself like I do.
This will ignite quickly, I believe.

 

[Mucho]

Sharing your innermost thoughts with 60,000 of your online friends is not a very good idea.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Mucho
Sharing your innermost thoughts with 60,000 of your online friends is not a very good idea.

Yeah, that's what myspace and it's millions are for:laugh:

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: Mucho
Sharing your innermost thoughts with 60,000 of your online friends is not a very good idea.

Pfft.. you .0001% are insignificant

 

[Stumps]

ahhh Incest, A game the whole family can play

 

[0roo0roo]

no, because studies of orphanages in europe have shown that intermarriage within family group like structures are very very low, regardless of genetics.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
no, because studies of orphanages in europe have shown that intermarriage within family group like structures are very very low, regardless of genetics.

that's not the reason why I wouldn't fvck my mom...

 

[JLGatsby]

This thread is filthy. Ewwwww.

 

[Throwmeabone]

Originally posted by: joedrake
k:
Let's say that you were born and your mom put you up for adoption...
a coupleish years later, your mom has another child (same father).. however this time, she has a baby of the opposite sex and 'it' was adopted out (or raised, it doesn't matter) and both of you grew up separately and didn't know each other

fast-forward 20 or so years....
you two see each other in a bar or w/e.. you could easily find the other one attractive/start up a relationship

however, you would never find your ACTUAL sister/brother attractive if you've grown up with them
Was your brain like conditioned to not find your sibling attractive, just because that's wrong or whatnot?

now the gay people:
in a similar sense, if a 'normal' person chooses they want to be gay, couldn't they condition themselves to find the same sex attractive?
people might say that being gay, however, is 'part of your genetics' because gay people only get aroused physically around people of their same sex whom they find attractive.. well
people are the same way with their family members...
most men will find a naked lady attractive and get aroused, however, if they saw their sister/sibiling naked they would just be disgusted/the least bit aroused

I guess, technically, incest would ruin this, but that is such a small portion and those people probably grow up in an environment where it is more acceptable to incesticize and might not be conditioned
any thoughts?

/thinking out loud

You're onto something which I have hypothesized all along. Homosexuality IMO, is a mental disorder. I think a lot of it is about seeking attention. I'm willing to bet my paycheck that even if a "gay" dude sees an attractive woman completely naked he will get a boner.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: Throwmeabone

Originally posted by: joedrake
k:
Let's say that you were born and your mom put you up for adoption...
a coupleish years later, your mom has another child (same father).. however this time, she has a baby of the opposite sex and 'it' was adopted out (or raised, it doesn't matter) and both of you grew up separately and didn't know each other

fast-forward 20 or so years....
you two see each other in a bar or w/e.. you could easily find the other one attractive/start up a relationship

however, you would never find your ACTUAL sister/brother attractive if you've grown up with them
Was your brain like conditioned to not find your sibling attractive, just because that's wrong or whatnot?

now the gay people:
in a similar sense, if a 'normal' person chooses they want to be gay, couldn't they condition themselves to find the same sex attractive?
people might say that being gay, however, is 'part of your genetics' because gay people only get aroused physically around people of their same sex whom they find attractive.. well
people are the same way with their family members...
most men will find a naked lady attractive and get aroused, however, if they saw their sister/sibiling naked they would just be disgusted/the least bit aroused

I guess, technically, incest would ruin this, but that is such a small portion and those people probably grow up in an environment where it is more acceptable to incesticize and might not be conditioned
any thoughts?

/thinking out loud

You're onto something which I have hypothesized all along. Homosexuality IMO, is a mental disorder. I think a lot of it is about seeking attention. I'm willing to bet my paycheck that even if a "gay" dude sees an attractive woman completely naked he will get a boner.

Actually it's a choice. I won't argue what those choices are influenced by, but they are choices.

EDIT: Don't take it as a flame.

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: Throwmeabone

Originally posted by: joedrake
k:
Let's say that you were born and your mom put you up for adoption...
a coupleish years later, your mom has another child (same father).. however this time, she has a baby of the opposite sex and 'it' was adopted out (or raised, it doesn't matter) and both of you grew up separately and didn't know each other

fast-forward 20 or so years....
you two see each other in a bar or w/e.. you could easily find the other one attractive/start up a relationship

however, you would never find your ACTUAL sister/brother attractive if you've grown up with them
Was your brain like conditioned to not find your sibling attractive, just because that's wrong or whatnot?

now the gay people:
in a similar sense, if a 'normal' person chooses they want to be gay, couldn't they condition themselves to find the same sex attractive?
people might say that being gay, however, is 'part of your genetics' because gay people only get aroused physically around people of their same sex whom they find attractive.. well
people are the same way with their family members...
most men will find a naked lady attractive and get aroused, however, if they saw their sister/sibiling naked they would just be disgusted/the least bit aroused

I guess, technically, incest would ruin this, but that is such a small portion and those people probably grow up in an environment where it is more acceptable to incesticize and might not be conditioned
any thoughts?

/thinking out loud

You're onto something which I have hypothesized all along. Homosexuality IMO, is a mental disorder. I think a lot of it is about seeking attention. I'm willing to bet my paycheck that even if a "gay" dude sees an attractive woman completely naked he will get a boner.

You can feel free to come watch me, naked, watch female porn. I guarantee I will not have a boner.

I think that sexuality is both physical & mental. Everyone can be whoever they want to be, but I think that they are born with their "default" sexuality. They could be "brainwashed" (for lack of a better term) into being anything or anyone else. I suppose I *could* be straight, if I subjected myself to extreme amounts of females and removed males from the equation altogether, but that would be completely stupid -- I'm happy being who I am; with my sexuality. I do not feel like subjecting myself to years and years of conditioning, just to change my sexuality.

That said, I did not know *any* open gays before I came out of the closet -- so I strongly disagree with the fact that exposure to sexuality suggests the sexuality that you become.

Oh, and have you read the studies that have linked body size (i.e. being overweight) to genetics? Anyone can pretty much be any size, but it takes much more work for some people than it does others. What if it's the same with sexuality? Anyone could be anybody they want, but it's easier & more comfortable for them to be a certain way.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
stop trying to peek in on your sister.

/thread

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Throwmeabone
I think a lot of it is about seeking attention. I'm willing to bet my paycheck that even if a "gay" dude sees an attractive woman completely naked he will get a boner.

lol, shows how much you know.

 

[Wahsapa]

ever consider genetics? it pretty much explains your whole problem.

 

[RapidSnail]

XX ? XY

 

[LiquidImpulse]

Originally posted by: Mucho
Sharing your innermost thoughts with 60,000 of your online friends is not a very good idea.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Throwmeabone
I think a lot of it is about seeking attention. I'm willing to bet my paycheck that even if a "gay" dude sees an attractive woman completely naked he will get a boner.

lol, shows how much you know.

Buy him a ticket to Australia so you two can sit down with a hot Aussie hooker. Tell him to bring the paycheck though.

 

[Moonbeam]

Brother and sister mice are far far less attracted to each other than they are to mice they are not related to and are genetically much more different.

 

[Nebor]

Sexuality is largely mental, though few have the clarity of mind to make it a choice.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Brother and sister mice are far far less attracted to each other than they are to mice they are not related to and are genetically much more different.

I saw a show about cheetahs which said that because of a low cheetah population in a certain areas the cats were resorting to inbreeding. This was leading to problems with recurring disease problems in them, but the point is the animals still want to have sex in the end, even if it's with their siblings or parents. They still prefer non-related partners though.

 

[LcarsSystem]

Originally posted by: joedrake
k:
Let's say that you were born and your mom put you up for adoption...
a coupleish years later, your mom has another child (same father).. however this time, she has a baby of the opposite sex and 'it' was adopted out (or raised, it doesn't matter) and both of you grew up separately and didn't know each other

fast-forward 20 or so years....
you two see each other in a bar or w/e.. you could easily find the other one attractive/start up a relationship

however, you would never find your ACTUAL sister/brother attractive if you've grown up with them
Was your brain like conditioned to not find your sibling attractive, just because that's wrong or whatnot?

now the gay people:
in a similar sense, if a 'normal' person chooses they want to be gay, couldn't they condition themselves to find the same sex attractive?
people might say that being gay, however, is 'part of your genetics' because gay people only get aroused physically around people of their same sex whom they find attractive.. well
people are the same way with their family members...
most men will find a naked lady attractive and get aroused, however, if they saw their sister/sibiling naked they would just be disgusted/the least bit aroused

I guess, technically, incest would ruin this, but that is such a small portion and those people probably grow up in an environment where it is more acceptable to incesticize and might not be conditioned
any thoughts?

/thinking out loud

They proved being gay is genetic on 60 Minutes. Can't find link though =/

I also think the reason a person might not find a brother/sister attractive is because they know eachother so well or have been around them too long. However if this doesn't occur and that person has no idea who their brother or sister is much less that they even have one is interesting to say the least. I guess everyone would be none-the-wiser unless you had a DNA test done.

 

[biggestmuff]

wtf? why are you sharing this with us? did your boyfriend fall asleep?

 

[Powermoloch]

Wasn't there a movie with those two blond locked up bro and sis in a house. Later on having to boink around and bearing a child?