I will never buy another XFX product

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Originally posted by: nitromullet
Complaint for what? XFX bending over backwards to replace his card THREE times, and offering an EXACT replacement card but in PCIe which he turned down?

Oh right, and you'd be fine with your tire dealer stating "OK, we have no more 16" tires that don't come apart when you get 100 miles down the road, but don't worry, we can give you these vastly superior 18" tires as 'replacement'. Sure, you'll have to spring for an extra $1200 to replace your 16" wheels, and probably another $2000 to modify your fenders so the tires won't rub...but man it'll be off the hook! You good wit dat?"

Or "We don't have any more Socket 939 processors but here you go - a brand new Pentium Dual-Core! A new motherboard and RAM will only set you back $100 or so. Oh, and you'll probably have to replace your perfectly good AGP video card with a PCI Express model, so figure another $100. We good?"

How is it that you don't see any problems with these scenarios, and still have enough brain cells to rub together in order to use a computer so that we might be graced with your idiocy?

Look, we can slice this up any number of different ways...

Indeed, we can:

Slice 1. you = idiot
Slice 2. you = imbecile
Slice 3. you = moron

Take your pick. They're all pretty good to me, but you may have your own personal preference.

but I can almost guarantee you that this is user error or a hardware problem on his end. I'm sorry, but anyone running AGP this close to 2008 doesn't exactly have my vote as "most likely to have the best PSU" or other components.

Right...because people who purchased current hardware three years ago surely must be less technically competent than those who purchased current hardware last month. The more time that passes since a hardware purchase, the less competent people become. Similarly, those who purchased hardware today will magically become incompetent if they are still hanging on to that hardware three years from now.

Your powers of reasoning and logic are nothing short of stunning.

by the way... the difference between those two 7900GS cards is the memory clocks... One is clocked at 1200 and the other at 1320.

And yet have remarkably disparate ratings, as well as an equally remarkable consistency among the problems described by reviewers giving poor and very poor ratings.

Nice job with the personal attacks.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: Lower
Just the one I am speaking about (and there are rumors that the other AGP ported card, the 7950GT, is just as bad).
At any rate, please take this as a warning against this product line.
I refuse to deal with XFX ever again due to my issues.

That's really too bad. Can't believe you got so many bad cards in a row? That's some bad luck Dude. In my last AGP Rig I was using a 7950GT AGP and didn't have any problems at all. Got a few friends who bought the same card and they'd say the same. So I think the rumors you mentioned are just that....rumors. Good luck with your 4th or 5th card, or whatever it is. Hopefully you get it all resolved between the posts you made on Hardforum, Toms Hardware Forum, and here.

Also, Regarding XFX as a company in general, they're on my short list of outstanding companies to deal with. They have an excellent support forum with a Rep always taking part to help resolve issues such as yours and they also have Reps who participate in outside forums as well who always seem eager to please.

 

[TemjinGold]

Originally posted by: Lower
So I get the new card. And I start getting random BSODs.
I knew it was the card because I was completely stable before. My PSU (Antec True Power 430), was more than adequate, and no other hardware or drivers had been changed - hard to install stuff when your system is down for 2-3 weeks at a time.
My original corruption (with strange non alpha-numeric characters on BIOS screen, during windows boot screen, et cetera), did not make my computer unstable, just unusable. It was now unstable.

So you were stable before but now you're crazy?

Hehe I kid, I kid. I do hope you get a happy ending. My bro has just resigned to stick with XFX (he likes his new 8800GT) and sworn off EVGA. Check out my thread for the details if you're interested.

 

[evolucion8]

Heh, for sure the XFX line of AGP based 79xx series of card were troublesome, in many forums lots of people had issues with the 7900GS and 7950GT dying after a short period of use, could it be the GPU? Or the BR02 bridge? Don't know, but an advise, for an AGP card, better the X1950PRO or the upcoming Powercolor HD 3850 xD

 

[Lower]

Originally posted by: evolucion8
Heh, for sure the XFX line of AGP based 79xx series of card were troublesome, in many forums lots of people had issues with the 7900GS and 7950GT dying after a short period of use, could it be the GPU? Or the BR02 bridge? Don't know, but an advise, for an AGP card, better the X1950PRO or the upcoming Powercolor HD 3850 xD

Exactly what I am saying and why I posted.
XFX 79** AGP cards can be troublesome.
Take your time choosing and consider other AGP solutions.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: evolucion8
Heh, for sure the XFX line of AGP based 79xx series of card were troublesome, in many forums lots of people had issues with the 7900GS and 7950GT dying after a short period of use, could it be the GPU? Or the BR02 bridge? Don't know, but an advise, for an AGP card, better the X1950PRO or the upcoming Powercolor HD 3850 xD

Really? Lots? Maybe I'll have to re-think my opinion. Do you have links? and how many represent "lots"? 5? 20? 50? 100? I'm on quite a few forums and I don't see "lots" of issues with these cards, I see a few. However, I do have a friend on Guru3D who had one die after several months, but he was also overclocking the hell out of his card which may have had something to do with it. Got his replacement, and he OC'd the new card just like the old one.

 

[retroman2428]

This guy has started this same thread in a bunch of other forums. C'mon man,,,get a life dude.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1258440

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/247490-33-product

 

[Lower]

Originally posted by: retroman2428
This guy has started this same thread in a bunch of other forums. C'mon man,,,get a life dude.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1258440

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/247490-33-product

Yes, yes I have.
Why? Because AGP users need to be aware that the move to a high end AGP card at this point is NOT money well spent.
If someone had told me the same I may have opted to move to PCIe, but no... I looked around and found lots of people claming they were going to have one last GPU upgrade on their AGP system. And now some are paying for that decision.

If you know of any other forums I should start a thread on, by all means let me know.
I'm trying to get word of this issue (and larger than normal chance of card failure) out to would be AGP upgraders, of course I would post it to multiple forums.
Duh.

 

[Puffnstuff]

The terms spending money and agp don't belong in the same sentence. How many years has it been now since agp was mainstream? My last agp card was an ati aiw 9800pro which was also my last ati card. The support has moved to where the main products are and that is pci-e. You could've already moved to a new rig for the money you've spent on your old setup.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: retroman2428
This guy has started this same thread in a bunch of other forums. C'mon man,,,get a life dude.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1258440

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/247490-33-product

I agree, but I think we should restrain ourselves and these threads will die as they deserve to.

 

[imported_Filbert]

Hmm, I bought an XFX 6600GT that had a failing fan before. I RMA'd it and got a working one in return. Later my cards started giving me some graphical glitches. I swore I'd never buy XFX again but I think that might have been a bit severe. Especially compared to all this.

 

[chinaman1472]

1. The 7900 series overall had a fairly bad architect from my research. My 7900 GT from eVGA crapped out in just under a year, by far the worst lifetime I've ever had for a video card. Many other owners had the same problem, regardless the manufacturer.

2. There's no such thing as "high end AGP." Plain and simple, when you're planning to invest hundred(s) of dollars into ANYTHING, do research first, and a lot of it; unless you have money growing on trees. Hell, even 15 minutes of research of PCI-E vs AGP would have saved you 3 months of hassle, some cash, and this headache.

 

[Lower]

My last update (I think).
Got my final replacement today from XFX.
This is the one where I asked for a retail boxed card (this is my second retail replacement, since when they cross ship they offer them), and was told they only give brown box replacement cards.

I opened it up today and it is a retail boxed card, so I just wanted to give the XFX support team credit for that. It will allow me to get the best resale price, which is important to me because as you all know I am done with this product and this company.

This did help raise my thoughts about the XFX support department, All in all I would give the XFX support staff a 6 out of 10.
My issues were;
They promised ship dates twice and failed to meet them.
They told me that missing those ship dates wasn't their problem.
I should never have to RMA ANY product more than once.

The good points;
They did come through getting me a retail boxed card for my final RMA, so I can get top value for selling it.
They did intervene on my behalf for a rebate issue I had. I don't know the final result here yet, but they did help.

The PRODUCT, a 7900GS AGP, I would have to rate a 2 out of 10.
When it ran it ran real well, but I enjoy using my hardware, not touring it around the USA.
Four RMAs for ANY product is well and above a concern, and should be a concern for ANYONE on the market for said product. I was NEVER trying to talk anyone out of dealing with XFX, I was trying to get the point across that this particular piece of hardware (the 79** AGP line) has some issues that no one else has seemed to bring to light. That is all I have been trying to get across, and I do feel I managed that task to those of you with an open enough mind to think beyond the "that could never happen", or the "but I own a <insert non 79** AGP card here> and it works GREAT!" mentality.

Some of you folks will still blame user error - feel free. I don't care.
I have listed the extensive trouble shooting I did, I KNOW it wasn't my system, because I ruled everything out.

I am off to sell this brand new retail boxed 7900GS - and I will never buy another XFX product.

Thanks for the support!

 

[SniperDaws]

This hits the spot for me, it took 5weeks for the 1st card to pack in and after that every card XFX sent you was faulty, id of said your Motherboard is shagged its not rocket science, try a friends agp card to see if its artifacting still.

i 100% know how you feel about the customer service though, all customer service is crap because you have idiots who feel they are under paid and unloved by the owner of the company with no incentive to do their job properly its as simple as that.


I will also cross Xfx off my list.

 

[Puffnstuff]

When you get the cash replace that relic you are using with a current model mb, memory and cpu.

 

[evolucion8]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: evolucion8
Heh, for sure the XFX line of AGP based 79xx series of card were troublesome, in many forums lots of people had issues with the 7900GS and 7950GT dying after a short period of use, could it be the GPU? Or the BR02 bridge? Don't know, but an advise, for an AGP card, better the X1950PRO or the upcoming Powercolor HD 3850 xD

Really? Lots? Maybe I'll have to re-think my opinion. Do you have links? and how many represent "lots"? 5? 20? 50? 100? I'm on quite a few forums and I don't see "lots" of issues with these cards, I see a few. However, I do have a friend on Guru3D who had one die after several months, but he was also overclocking the hell out of his card which may have had something to do with it. Got his replacement, and he OC'd the new card just like the old one.

In the Newegg Buyer's opinion, I saw most of the buyers giving it a bad rating because of the failures, most of them didn't work at the beginning or just dead after a short period of use.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: evolucion8

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: evolucion8
Heh, for sure the XFX line of AGP based 79xx series of card were troublesome, in many forums lots of people had issues with the 7900GS and 7950GT dying after a short period of use, could it be the GPU? Or the BR02 bridge? Don't know, but an advise, for an AGP card, better the X1950PRO or the upcoming Powercolor HD 3850 xD

Really? Lots? Maybe I'll have to re-think my opinion. Do you have links? and how many represent "lots"? 5? 20? 50? 100? I'm on quite a few forums and I don't see "lots" of issues with these cards, I see a few. However, I do have a friend on Guru3D who had one die after several months, but he was also overclocking the hell out of his card which may have had something to do with it. Got his replacement, and he OC'd the new card just like the old one.

In the Newegg Buyer's opinion, I saw most of the buyers giving it a bad rating because of the failures, most of them didn't work at the beginning or just dead after a short period of use.

I also saw more than one NewEgg Buyer saying that they were using a banana as a heatsink for their X1950 Pro's and were commenting on what great temps they were getting. Ever since then, I don't put a lot of stock in what the NewEgg users say, sorry.

The thread is all yours guys, have fun.

Edit: And Damn,....just realized I bumped this thread to the top again with this reply. My apologies to the rest of the Forum. It won't be happening again.

 

[evolucion8]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: evolucion8

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: evolucion8
Heh, for sure the XFX line of AGP based 79xx series of card were troublesome, in many forums lots of people had issues with the 7900GS and 7950GT dying after a short period of use, could it be the GPU? Or the BR02 bridge? Don't know, but an advise, for an AGP card, better the X1950PRO or the upcoming Powercolor HD 3850 xD

Really? Lots? Maybe I'll have to re-think my opinion. Do you have links? and how many represent "lots"? 5? 20? 50? 100? I'm on quite a few forums and I don't see "lots" of issues with these cards, I see a few. However, I do have a friend on Guru3D who had one die after several months, but he was also overclocking the hell out of his card which may have had something to do with it. Got his replacement, and he OC'd the new card just like the old one.

In the Newegg Buyer's opinion, I saw most of the buyers giving it a bad rating because of the failures, most of them didn't work at the beginning or just dead after a short period of use.

I also saw more than one NewEgg Buyer saying that they were using a banana as a heatsink for their X1950 Pro's and were commenting on what great temps they were getting. Ever since then, I don't put a lot of stock in what the NewEgg users say, sorry.

The thread is all yours guys, have fun.

Edit: And Damn,....just realized I bumped this thread to the top again with this reply. My apologies to the rest of the Forum. It won't be happening again.

LOL that's true, I even heard that someone suggested a plum because the natural juices blah blah blah loll, but I was talking about the serious one which really bought the cards.