I wish my g/f would lose about 15lbs and tone up a bit

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Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
What's your fixation with calling people kids? I'll be 27 in a month.

Obviously you have learned nothing in your 27 years if you think the difference between a "Man" and a "Boy" has anything at all to do with age.

:thumbsup: RD, as always...

While the title "Man" may need to be earned by some, RD uses "Boy" as a term to belittle people on the opposite side of the argument as him. Same as he will call anyone here a pimple farmer simply for disagreeing. It is the same as calling someone "Son" when arguing.

But Red Dawn is really mean when he is defending Geekbabe. Read any of his other threads and they are wholely different. I probably opened up a can of worms, but it is just my perception that Red Dawn is a whole different poster when he comes into a thread where GB is one of the main arguers.

Personally, I think it is hillarious that some of the older posters think they look *so much better* than all the younger "pimple farming geeks" who also happen to know just about nothing about life, will all break up with their SOs, and will most likely suffer a darwin award candidate death.



What amazes and saddens me is that so many of our younger posters basically live their lives in 2D.
Nobody in real life looks as good as airbrushed pictures taken wearing a 7k dress after being worked on for 3 hours by professional makeup/hair stylists..nobody,not even the models in those pictures.

Also while physical attractiveness is important that alone,using that as the only measure of what constitutes "sexy" means you're going to miss out on some really hot experiences.A sensual,erotic experience also encompasses what we touch,what we smell,it is the whole enchilda.2D perfection is great but when it warps and distorts your thinking to the point that you can't appreciate the totallity of a realtime 3D experience with another human being,then you're missing out bigtime.

Guys here who've ever had the experience of being with a physically beautiful gal who exherted zero energy or imagination in bed and who's attitude made them feel like she was doing them a favor know what I'm talking about here.
 

Electric Amish

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I can't believe that anyone could actually be able to tell the difference between 15lbs on a person, by sight alone.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Gurck

Ah, so that's what it is I sensed something for sure, but couldn't put my finger on it. There was simply far more hostility than was warranted.
Actually it was flxnimprtmscl response to Kerri Ann that caught my attention and drew my ire. Posts following that attacking me (which is ok) where responded too in kind. I knew that most of you guys wouldn't agree with me and that's ok too. Like you I'm just speaking my mind you are perfectly within your rights not to like what I have to say just like I am within my rights not to like what you say. In the end none of what is posted here means sh!t! If per chance we were to meet outside this forum I wouldn't hold it against you!
 

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I think we need to clarify, as people aren't reading the thread.

1) I eat healthy. I've tried to include her in that.
2) I run on average 3 times a week. She doesn't want to participate.
3) I am not breaking up with her. I am not making fun of her. I am Concerned for her Health. I am concerned that I might no longer be attracted to her if her current rate of weight gain continues.


This has ALL been covered in the previous posts, but it's apparently too much to filter through so people are just *blindly* posting.
 

Gurck

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The real problem is that person_01 says "looks &amp; fitness are aspects of a relationship" and person_02 hears "looks and fitness are the only things that matter". Shades of grey, people, shades of grey...
 

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Originally posted by: armatron
I think we need to clarify, as people aren't reading the thread.

1) I eat healthy. I've tried to include her in that.
2) I run on average 3 times a week. She doesn't want to participate.
3) I am not breaking up with her. I am not making fun of her. I am Concerned for her Health. I am concerned that I might no longer be attracted to her if her current rate of weight gain continues.


This has ALL been covered in the previous posts, but it's apparently too much to filter through so people are just *blindly* posting.

oh please your thread has been hijacked by professionals,give up all hope of reclaiming it
 

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Give her a month to start eating right and exercise. If she doesn't do anything and continues to resent you for wanting her to be healthy, dump her and find someone who is competent enough to take care of herself.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: armatron
I think we need to clarify, as people aren't reading the thread.

1) I eat healthy. I've tried to include her in that.
2) I run on average 3 times a week. She doesn't want to participate.
3) I am not breaking up with her. I am not making fun of her. I am Concerned for her Health. I am concerned that I might no longer be attracted to her if her current rate of weight gain continues.


This has ALL been covered in the previous posts, but it's apparently too much to filter through so people are just *blindly* posting.

Forget it man. They'd rather just demonize you into being just like their exboyfriend or exhusband or some guy who called them fat 15 years ago. They don't want to know about what your situation really is, they'd rather just not read/ignore the thread and vent their anger on an unfounded conclusion about you.
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe



What amazes and saddens me is that so many of our younger posters basically live their lives in 2D.
Nobody in real life looks as good as airbrushed pictures taken wearing a 7k dress after being worked on for 3 hours by professional makeup/hair stylists..nobody,not even the models in those pictures.
Right. This is out of absolutely nowhere. Show me where someone is saying this other than the guy who had a forumula that had to be less than 2.

Also while physical attractiveness is important that alone,using that as the only measure of what constitutes "sexy" means you're going to miss out on some really hot experiences.A sensual,erotic experience also encompasses what we touch,what we smell,it is the whole enchilda.2D perfection is great but when it warps and distorts your thinking to the point that you can't appreciate the totallity of a realtime 3D experience with another human being,then you're missing out bigtime.
Right. This is out of absolutely nowhere. Show me where someone is saying this other than the guy who had a forumula that had to be less than 2.IMO (other than a physically disease or problem) people that are overweight are in that position because they don't take care of themselves. That means that your above statement doesn't apply, as touch, smell, the whole "enchilada" encompasses personal hygeine and upkeep.

Guys here who've ever had the experience of being with a physically beautiful gal who exherted zero energy or imagination in bed and who's attitude made them feel like she was doing them a favor know what I'm talking about here.
I have. Since my g/f has put on some fat and lost some muscle (tone) our.. experiences have gone way downhill. You know why? She's gotten out of shape and knows it. She knew it before I said anything, and I didn't let on anything to give her a hint I had a problem with it.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually it was flxnimprtmscl response to Kerri Ann that caught my attention and drew my ire.
Lol... oddly enough, I didn't post that, though I did quote it and express my agreement and opinion of it as a well-stated post. But again, reading before posting helps you not look like a horse's ass. Try it some time

Posts following that attacking me (which is ok) where responded too in kind. I knew that most of you guys wouldn't agree with me and that's ok too. Like you I'm just speaking my mind you are perfectly within your rights not to like what I have to say just like I am within my rights not to like what you say. In the end none of what is posted here means sh!t! If per chance we were to meet outside this forum I wouldn't hold it against you!

Attacking you? care to quote me? Only point at which I even vaguely approached your vicious character attacks were in angry response to said attacks. You claim maturity by virtue of age, but have only managed to come as a particularly temperamental teenager in this thread. One who doesn't like to read
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: armatron
I think we need to clarify, as people aren't reading the thread.

1) I eat healthy. I've tried to include her in that.
2) I run on average 3 times a week. She doesn't want to participate.
3) I am not breaking up with her. I am not making fun of her. I am Concerned for her Health. I am concerned that I might no longer be attracted to her if her current rate of weight gain continues.


This has ALL been covered in the previous posts, but it's apparently too much to filter through so people are just *blindly* posting.

Forget it man. They'd rather just demonize you into being just like their exboyfriend or exhusband or some guy who called them fat 15 years ago. They don't want to know about what your situation really is, they'd rather just not read/ignore the thread and vent their anger on an unfounded conclusion about you.
I see you also have a problem with women expressing their opinions! According to you if they don't happen to agree with you or the OP then they must be fat and have been dumped because of it.

BTW armatron, don't take this post as saying you believe that.
 

zixxer

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imo most of you don't understand and aren't willing to not look into things so far.


I'm not breaking up w/ my gf. I haven't called her fat. I am genuinely concerned that if the current path continues she will not be able to easily lost the weight/fat she's gained. Unfortunately I am not attracted to overweight women. Be it genes, society, marketing, whatever you want to call it. I'm not wanting my g/f to look like "some airbrushed model" (geekbabe). I would like for my g/f to be healthy, as she was a year or two ago. It's not like I started dating her, then got bored of her being overweight and want her to change.
 

Red Dawn

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Well enough of this nonsense for now. Time for me and the SO to hit the gym so we can keep our muscle tone and not gain that extra 15 lbs that would make us so unattractive and unhealthy:laugh:
 

melly

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm just dumbfounded so many women even on this forum fall into that stupid "I'm so pathetic, the whole universe thinks I'm fat and is out to undermine my self esteem" trap. Do you enjoy sitting around being societies' big victims? Do you some how get off in placing yourself into a position of helplessness?

Melly, KerriAnn, I'm talking to you. Of course the whole world will judge you by outside appearance. Thats the way it is and I'll give birth to a full grown blue whale well before it ever changes. Some will love the way you look, others will abhor it...but neither really gives them any control over your feelings of self worth. I was depressed and defeated like that too...when I was 13! I grew the fvck out of it and accepted myself, flaws and all. I strive to fix the flaws that I can, and accept those that I can't. If I were you, I'd do the same.

This whiney crap is annoying and fruitless.

Did I ever once mention anything about me or my weight? Oh right, I told TG the reason why I was initially defensive with a personal situation to serve as the explanation. Something that happened 5 years ago. In this thread I have never ONCE complained about my weight or said I was helpless. I never NOT said we weren't judged by appearance. I just happened to think nothing was wrong with mine and I did have a shallow asshole of an ex bf. Why don't you read the fvcking thread properly next time, kthx.

Edit to reply to others cuz I can't find their initial q's:

Geekbabe: TG is trying to tell me that 32 B is curvy but in no way shape or form (pun intended) can anyone seriously tell me that those are considered to be curvy. I'm not trying to dis. I was that size once and I loved them just as much

Some other dude asked me "out of curiousity" what my height/weight are: I don't think it matters, but to satisify your curiosity I am about 5'2 and last weighed in at 139 about 4 months ago. I have been losing weight because my current job is leading me into a destructive lifestyle (shift work = hell on body, mind, and spirit) and I want to be fit. I like the look of a few extra pounds on me, but when I was underweight I was constantly getting sick and I have a low immune system to begin with. I was actually told to gain weight by my doctor at the time. I'm a size 9.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: armatron
I think we need to clarify, as people aren't reading the thread.

1) I eat healthy. I've tried to include her in that.
2) I run on average 3 times a week. She doesn't want to participate.
3) I am not breaking up with her. I am not making fun of her. I am Concerned for her Health. I am concerned that I might no longer be attracted to her if her current rate of weight gain continues.


This has ALL been covered in the previous posts, but it's apparently too much to filter through so people are just *blindly* posting.

Forget it man. They'd rather just demonize you into being just like their exboyfriend or exhusband or some guy who called them fat 15 years ago. They don't want to know about what your situation really is, they'd rather just not read/ignore the thread and vent their anger on an unfounded conclusion about you.
I see you also have a problem with women expressing their opinions! According to you if they don't happen to agree with you or the OP then they must be fat and have been dumped because of it.

BTW armatron, don't take this post as saying you believe that.

I have a problem with anyone drawing false conclusions about some one based more on their own insecurities than on the subject in question.

What amazes and saddens me is that so many of our younger posters basically live their lives in 2D.
Nobody in real life looks as good as airbrushed pictures taken wearing a 7k dress after being worked on for 3 hours by professional makeup/hair stylists..nobody,not even the models in those pictures.

Who are this "younger posters" making these assertions? Aside from that guy with the formula, which may or may not have been just a troll post I have seen no one claiming to have such outrageous impossible standards as she describes in that post. So where is the evidence to back up that point? It should be contained within this thread, which I did in fact read all of at one point or another, yet there seems to be only a few individuals who may have fit into that mold to some extent. The majority either thought the OP was being "shallow" or felt he was entitled to wish his girlfriend would exercise a little more.

(Sorry to single you out GeekBabe, you're not the only person I feel is out of line with some of their comments you were just the most readily quotable example. )
 

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Originally posted by: melly
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Geekbabe: TG is trying to tell me that 32 B is curvy but in no way shape or form (pun intended) can anyone seriously tell me that those are considered to be curvy. I'm not trying to dis. I was that size once and I loved them just as much

38C is not curvy. It's thick. Unless you're 6' tall. It's the cup size 'A', 'B', 'C', etc that defines "curviness", not the 32, 34, or 38.

Seriously people, once you start getting chin fat, and it's hard to distinguish between your neck and your jaw, you need to lose some weight.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: melly

Did I ever once mention anything about me or my weight? Oh right, I told TG the reason why I was initially defensive with a personal situation to serve as the explanation. Something that happened 5 years ago.
Yes, and I felt you were out of line there. You made it personal when it really had nothing to do with you.

In this thread I have never ONCE complained about my weight or said I was helpless. I never NOT said we weren't judged by appearance. I just happened to think nothing was wrong with mine and I did have a shallow asshole of an ex bf. Why don't you read the fvcking thread properly next time, kthx.

Good. I'm glad you don't feel there's anything wrong with your body. But you also need to realize you're not everyone's ideal. You don't have to take it as a personal offense every time a guy says he likes skinny girls, or girls with big tits.

Originally posted by: melly
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Originally posted by: melly
But that's just it, TG, it's not natural to have t &amp; a without having a few extra pounds around the midsection, since t &amp; a are comprised primarily of fatty tissue. Why can't males understand that? Also, I know plenty of stick-thin gals who have cellulite--that's genetic.
Wrong... My past two gfs both had very flat stomachs. One was 5'7" with 32Bs, the other was 5'2" with 34Cs.

And if you call those curvy tits you are wrong...38 C here.


Originally posted by: melly
I guess lots of boys like to date girls who resemble 12 year old prepubescent boys? *shrug*

A woman needs curves.
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: melly
Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm just dumbfounded so many women even on this forum fall into that stupid "I'm so pathetic, the whole universe thinks I'm fat and is out to undermine my self esteem" trap. Do you enjoy sitting around being societies' big victims? Do you some how get off in placing yourself into a position of helplessness?

Melly, KerriAnn, I'm talking to you. Of course the whole world will judge you by outside appearance. Thats the way it is and I'll give birth to a full grown blue whale well before it ever changes. Some will love the way you look, others will abhor it...but neither really gives them any control over your feelings of self worth. I was depressed and defeated like that too...when I was 13! I grew the fvck out of it and accepted myself, flaws and all. I strive to fix the flaws that I can, and accept those that I can't. If I were you, I'd do the same.

This whiney crap is annoying and fruitless.

Did I ever once mention anything about me or my weight? Oh right, I told TG the reason why I was initially defensive with a personal situation to serve as the explanation. Something that happened 5 years ago. In this thread I have never ONCE complained about my weight or said I was helpless. I never NOT said we weren't judged by appearance. I just happened to think nothing was wrong with mine and I did have a shallow asshole of an ex bf. Why don't you read the fvcking thread properly next time, kthx.

Edit to reply to others cuz I can't find their initial q's:

Geekbabe: TG is trying to tell me that 32 B is curvy but in no way shape or form (pun intended) can anyone seriously tell me that those are considered to be curvy. I'm not trying to dis. I was that size once and I loved them just as much

Some other dude asked me "out of curiousity" what my height/weight are: I don't think it matters, but to satisify your curiosity I am about 5'2 and last weighed in at 139 about 4 months ago. I have been losing weight because my current job is leading me into a destructive lifestyle (shift work = hell on body, mind, and spirit) and I want to be fit. I like the look of a few extra pounds on me, but when I was underweight I was constantly getting sick and I have a low immune system to begin with. I was actually told to gain weight by my doctor at the time. I'm a size 9.


Not that it matters, but I don't believe you about your weight. The few pics you've posted make you appear to be larger than you are saying (in particular, the thread about waking up with scratches where you posted a pic of your arm that someone (including me) thought it was your leg)


From reading your responses I can't help but to think that you must have some sort of underlying problem.. be it weight or whatever. I don't understand why or how it is wrong of me to ask my girlfriend to be HEALTHY. You, among others, (geekbabe, and her loyal followers who aren't getting any today OR tommorow) are acting like I told her to either turn into an olsen twin or get out of my life. I didn't.


Edit;
Also, as the previous poster stated, didn't you say you were a 38c? My ex gf was about 5'0, 100lbs ish (I think,) and 34c (or 36D) At your height would your size of 38c match up?
 

melly

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: melly

Did I ever once mention anything about me or my weight? Oh right, I told TG the reason why I was initially defensive with a personal situation to serve as the explanation. Something that happened 5 years ago.
Yes, and I felt you were out of line there. You made it personal when it really had nothing to do with you.

In this thread I have never ONCE complained about my weight or said I was helpless. I never NOT said we weren't judged by appearance. I just happened to think nothing was wrong with mine and I did have a shallow asshole of an ex bf. Why don't you read the fvcking thread properly next time, kthx.

Good. I'm glad you don't feel there's anything wrong with your body. But you also need to realize you're not everyone's ideal. You don't have to take it as a personal offense every time a guy says he likes skinny girls, or girls with big tits.

Originally posted by: melly
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Originally posted by: melly
But that's just it, TG, it's not natural to have t &amp; a without having a few extra pounds around the midsection, since t &amp; a are comprised primarily of fatty tissue. Why can't males understand that? Also, I know plenty of stick-thin gals who have cellulite--that's genetic.
Wrong... My past two gfs both had very flat stomachs. One was 5'7" with 32Bs, the other was 5'2" with 34Cs.

And if you call those curvy tits you are wrong...38 C here.


Originally posted by: melly
I guess lots of boys like to date girls who resemble 12 year old prepubescent boys? *shrug*

A woman needs curves.

Ping, I don't have an issue with you, lemme just explain that. TG wanted an answer, I gave it to him. I know I will not be every ideal, vice versa as every guy will not be my ideal. It's just 'funny' how ex is still trying to get with me, so I guess I am his ideal afterall. That's all I was trying to say.
 

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Originally posted by: armatron
Not that it matters, but I don't believe you about your weight. The few pics you've posted make you appear to be larger than you are saying (in particular, the thread about waking up with scratches where you posted a pic of your arm that someone (including me) thought it was your leg)


From reading your responses I can't help but to think that you must have some sort of underlying problem.. be it weight or whatever. I don't understand why or how it is wrong of me to ask my girlfriend to be HEALTHY. You, among others, (geekbabe, and her loyal followers who aren't getting any today OR tommorow) are acting like I told her to either turn into an olsen twin or get out of my life. I didn't.

Jesus Christ, why don't you come over here and weigh me yourself? If you need me to repost a pic of my scratched arm, I'll do so. I am not the one with the problem. You need to accept your gf for who she is, or dump her, sorry.
 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
What's your fixation with calling people kids? I'll be 27 in a month.
Obviously you have learned nothing in your 27 years if you think the difference between a "Man" and a "Boy" has anything at all to do with age.

:thumbsup: RD, as always...
While the title "Man" may need to be earned by some, RD uses "Boy" as a term to belittle people on the opposite side of the argument as him. Same as he will call anyone here a pimple farmer simply for disagreeing. It is the same as calling someone "Son" when arguing.

But Red Dawn is really mean when he is defending Geekbabe. Read any of his other threads and they are wholely different. I probably opened up a can of worms, but it is just my perception that Red Dawn is a whole different poster when he comes into a thread where GB is one of the main arguers.

Personally, I think it is hillarious that some of the older posters think they look *so much better* than all the younger "pimple farming geeks" who also happen to know just about nothing about life, will all break up with their SOs, and will most likely suffer a darwin award candidate death.
What amazes and saddens me is that so many of our younger posters basically live their lives in 2D.
Nobody in real life looks as good as airbrushed pictures taken wearing a 7k dress after being worked on for 3 hours by professional makeup/hair stylists..nobody,not even the models in those pictures.

Also while physical attractiveness is important that alone,using that as the only measure of what constitutes "sexy" means you're going to miss out on some really hot experiences.A sensual,erotic experience also encompasses what we touch,what we smell,it is the whole enchilda.2D perfection is great but when it warps and distorts your thinking to the point that you can't appreciate the totallity of a realtime 3D experience with another human being,then you're missing out bigtime.

Guys here who've ever had the experience of being with a physically beautiful gal who exherted zero energy or imagination in bed and who's attitude made them feel like she was doing them a favor know what I'm talking about here.
I find it kinda funny coming from someone who considered (have you followed through?) implants as a way of improving your self esteem.

If you're female and you're bitching and superficiality and shallowness, please keep your traps closed unless you don't wear makeup, wonder bras, color your hair, use nail extensions, hair extensions, eyelash extensions, ass enhancers, paint your nails, shave your legs, wear assloads of jelwerly, and whatever tools you girls use to show others just how wonderful and witty and smart you are.
 

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Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Originally posted by: melly
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Geekbabe: TG is trying to tell me that 32 B is curvy but in no way shape or form (pun intended) can anyone seriously tell me that those are considered to be curvy. I'm not trying to dis. I was that size once and I loved them just as much

38C is not curvy. It's thick. Unless you're 6' tall. It's the cup size 'A', 'B', 'C', etc that defines "curviness", not the 32, 34, or 38.

Seriously people, once you start getting chin fat, and it's hard to distinguish between your neck and your jaw, you need to lose some weight.

So are you saying that C is curvy or not? All you have experience with are flat chested women, and I think being a female I would know more about this kind of stuff than you.
 

melly

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Originally posted by: TuffGuy
If you're female and you're bitching and superficiality and shallowness, please keep your traps closed unless you don't wear makeup, wonder bras, color your hair, use nail extensions, hair extensions, eyelash extensions, ass enhancers, paint your nails, shave your legs, wear assloads of jelwerly, and whatever tools you girls use to show others just how wonderful and witty and smart you are.

Apparently if we didn't do these things, guys wouldn't love us. :roll: Out of curiousity, what is your cultural background? How old are you?
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: TuffGuy
If you're female and you're bitching and superficiality and shallowness, please keep your traps closed unless you don't wear makeup, wonder bras, color your hair, use nail extensions, hair extensions, eyelash extensions, ass enhancers, paint your nails, shave your legs, wear assloads of jelwerly, and whatever tools you girls use to show others just how wonderful and witty and smart you are.

No, those are all things which (conveniently) are forced upon them by society &amp; male oppressors

FWIW, I personally don't rate looks &amp; fitness very high on the importance scale, though partly because I don't have much of a choice My point of contention in this thread has simply been that the OP is not a shallow person.
 
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