I wish my g/f would lose about 15lbs and tone up a bit

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: melly

Ping, I don't have an issue with you, lemme just explain that. TG wanted an answer, I gave it to him. I know I will not be every ideal, vice versa as every guy will not be my ideal. It's just 'funny' how ex is still trying to get with me, so I guess I am his ideal afterall. That's all I was trying to say.

I have no issues with you either melly. I just enjoy a good hot debate sometimes, and this seemed like a good topic to get involved with. For what its worth, I understand where you're coming from I just disagree with some of it.

Oh, men always do that with their exes. Both my girlfriends ex-boyfriends have made moves to become involved with her again while we've been going out. They're horny and have no prospects for sex so they think "Well, I'll try to start that up again to get some sex."

Edit: grammar

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Geekbabe: TG is trying to tell me that 32 B is curvy but in no way shape or form (pun intended) can anyone seriously tell me that those are considered to be curvy. I'm not trying to dis. I was that size once and I loved them just as much

38C is not curvy. It's thick. Unless you're 6' tall. It's the cup size 'A', 'B', 'C', etc that defines "curviness", not the 32, 34, or 38.

Seriously people, once you start getting chin fat, and it's hard to distinguish between your neck and your jaw, you need to lose some weight.

So are you saying that C is curvy or not? All you have experience with are flat chested women, and I think being a female I would know more about this kind of stuff than you.

C is "curvy", but some girls need to be overweight to be that big. There is a difference between a 32C and a 38C.

 

[melly]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
They're horny and have no prospects for sex so they think "Well, I'll try to start that up again to get some sex."

LOL...but did I mention that he already has a gf. He has prospects enough, and reinforces my belief that ugly guys can get more game.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: PingSpike
They're horny and have no prospects for sex so they think "Well, I'll try to start that up again to get some sex."

... my belief that ugly guys can get more game.

Wrong.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
If you're female and you're bitching and superficiality and shallowness, please keep your traps closed unless you don't wear makeup, wonder bras, color your hair, use nail extensions, hair extensions, eyelash extensions, ass enhancers, paint your nails, shave your legs, wear assloads of jelwerly, and whatever tools you girls use to show others just how wonderful and witty and smart you are.

Apparently if we didn't do these things, guys wouldn't love us. :roll: Out of curiousity, what is your cultural background? How old are you?

Yes, if you don't do that WE don't love you... :roll:

Most guys prefer a natural woman over one who's all fake.

As for my background, eastern Euro by birth, 26yo, engineer, used to be 190 and dropped to 150.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: PingSpike
They're horny and have no prospects for sex so they think "Well, I'll try to start that up again to get some sex."

... my belief that ugly guys can get more game.

Nah, you're thinking of ugly girls since they tend to be easier.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: PingSpike
They're horny and have no prospects for sex so they think "Well, I'll try to start that up again to get some sex."

LOL...but did I mention that he already has a gf. He has prospects enough, and reinforces my belief that ugly guys can get more game.

It doesn't sound like you're offering him any game. I suspect that he has "traded down". He dumped you I think you said? He probably thought (incorrectly) that he could "do better" than you or something. Well, it turns out he can't and he ended up with an ugly chick. So he's trying to get back with you. He doesn't just dump her because he's now afraid he'll trade down even further or end up with nothing at all.

To understand a dirtbag, you have to think like one.

 

[melly]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
If you're female and you're bitching and superficiality and shallowness, please keep your traps closed unless you don't wear makeup, wonder bras, color your hair, use nail extensions, hair extensions, eyelash extensions, ass enhancers, paint your nails, shave your legs, wear assloads of jelwerly, and whatever tools you girls use to show others just how wonderful and witty and smart you are.

Apparently if we didn't do these things, guys wouldn't love us. :roll: Out of curiousity, what is your cultural background? How old are you?

Yes, if you don't do that WE don't love you... :roll:

Most guys prefer a natural woman over one who's all fake.

As for my background, eastern Euro by birth, 26yo, engineer, used to be 190 and dropped to 150.

Ok my reason for asking is because based on cultural background, I am mixed and my parents have different ideas of what is overweight/fit/etc. My mom's side of the family thinks everyone should be a size two, and my dad's side of the family thinks the more weight, the more strength, the better. I think this influences my behaviour so I don't know if it influcences yours? Traditionally speaking, E. Euro females are VERY tall and have small frames. In fact a lot of models you see in the US are of this background.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
If you're female and you're bitching and superficiality and shallowness, please keep your traps closed unless you don't wear makeup, wonder bras, color your hair, use nail extensions, hair extensions, eyelash extensions, ass enhancers, paint your nails, shave your legs, wear assloads of jelwerly, and whatever tools you girls use to show others just how wonderful and witty and smart you are.

Apparently if we didn't do these things, guys wouldn't love us. :roll: Out of curiousity, what is your cultural background? How old are you?

Yes, if you don't do that WE don't love you... :roll:

Most guys prefer a natural woman over one who's all fake.

As for my background, eastern Euro by birth, 26yo, engineer, used to be 190 and dropped to 150.

Ok my reason for asking is because based on cultural background, I am mixed and my parents have different ideas of what is overweight/fit/etc. My mom's side of the family thinks everyone should be a size two, and my dad's side of the family thinks the more weight, the more strength, the better. I think this influences my behaviour so I don't know if it influcences yours? Traditionally speaking, E. Euro females are VERY tall and have small frames. In fact a lot of models you see in the US are of this background.

So you're part Samoan? Strength is not necessarily a matter of weight. Of course, the heavier you are, the more leverage you have, but that applies mostly to leaning on stuff. And women aren't built for strength anyway.

I think that's a stereotype about Euro women. I don't know any woman taller than my mom, who's 5'6". Then again, I grew up in a 3rd world country, spend a lot of time on a farm, and am a mix of Romanian/Russian/Italian and who knows what else.

 

[melly]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy
So you're part Samoan? Strength is not necessarily a matter of weight. Of course, the heavier you are, the more leverage you have, but that applies mostly to leaning on stuff. And women aren't built for strength anyway.

I think that's a stereotype about Euro women. I don't know any woman taller than my mom, who's 5'6". Then again, I grew up in a 3rd world country, spend a lot of time on a farm, and am a mix of Romanian/Russian/Italian and who knows what else.

I consider that to be tall...remember, I'm a shorty! Any bit of weight will be amplified on me due to my height. Women I think are built for pain--childbirth, yikes--but strength, I do agree, we are not built for. I think we are built for inner-strength, not physical strength.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

To understand a dirtbag, you have to think like one.

Once again your issues with women raises it's ugly head.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

What's your fixation with calling people kids? I'll be 27 in a month.

Obviously you have learned nothing in your 27 years if you think the difference between a "Man" and a "Boy" has anything at all to do with age.

:thumbsup: RD, as always...

While the title "Man" may need to be earned by some, RD uses "Boy" as a term to belittle people on the opposite side of the argument as him. Same as he will call anyone here a pimple farmer simply for disagreeing. It is the same as calling someone "Son" when arguing.

But Red Dawn is really mean when he is defending Geekbabe. Read any of his other threads and they are wholely different. I probably opened up a can of worms, but it is just my perception that Red Dawn is a whole different poster when he comes into a thread where GB is one of the main arguers.

Personally, I think it is hillarious that some of the older posters think they look *so much better* than all the younger "pimple farming geeks" who also happen to know just about nothing about life, will all break up with their SOs, and will most likely suffer a darwin award candidate death.

What amazes and saddens me is that so many of our younger posters basically live their lives in 2D.
Nobody in real life looks as good as airbrushed pictures taken wearing a 7k dress after being worked on for 3 hours by professional makeup/hair stylists..nobody,not even the models in those pictures.

Also while physical attractiveness is important that alone,using that as the only measure of what constitutes "sexy" means you're going to miss out on some really hot experiences.A sensual,erotic experience also encompasses what we touch,what we smell,it is the whole enchilda.2D perfection is great but when it warps and distorts your thinking to the point that you can't appreciate the totallity of a realtime 3D experience with another human being,then you're missing out bigtime.

Guys here who've ever had the experience of being with a physically beautiful gal who exherted zero energy or imagination in bed and who's attitude made them feel like she was doing them a favor know what I'm talking about here.

I find it kinda funny coming from someone who considered (have you followed through?) implants as a way of improving your self esteem.

If you're female and you're bitching and superficiality and shallowness, please keep your traps closed unless you don't wear makeup, wonder bras, color your hair, use nail extensions, hair extensions, eyelash extensions, ass enhancers, paint your nails, shave your legs, wear assloads of jelwerly, and whatever tools you girls use to show others just how wonderful and witty and smart you are.

I'm considering implants because having successfully dieted myself down to almost model leaness,people look at me and actually say things aloud like "nice looking woman but where's her tits?" or show me ads for water bras.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

What's your fixation with calling people kids? I'll be 27 in a month.

Obviously you have learned nothing in your 27 years if you think the difference between a "Man" and a "Boy" has anything at all to do with age.

:thumbsup: RD, as always...

While the title "Man" may need to be earned by some, RD uses "Boy" as a term to belittle people on the opposite side of the argument as him. Same as he will call anyone here a pimple farmer simply for disagreeing. It is the same as calling someone "Son" when arguing.

But Red Dawn is really mean when he is defending Geekbabe. Read any of his other threads and they are wholely different. I probably opened up a can of worms, but it is just my perception that Red Dawn is a whole different poster when he comes into a thread where GB is one of the main arguers.

Personally, I think it is hillarious that some of the older posters think they look *so much better* than all the younger "pimple farming geeks" who also happen to know just about nothing about life, will all break up with their SOs, and will most likely suffer a darwin award candidate death.

What amazes and saddens me is that so many of our younger posters basically live their lives in 2D.
Nobody in real life looks as good as airbrushed pictures taken wearing a 7k dress after being worked on for 3 hours by professional makeup/hair stylists..nobody,not even the models in those pictures.

Also while physical attractiveness is important that alone,using that as the only measure of what constitutes "sexy" means you're going to miss out on some really hot experiences.A sensual,erotic experience also encompasses what we touch,what we smell,it is the whole enchilda.2D perfection is great but when it warps and distorts your thinking to the point that you can't appreciate the totallity of a realtime 3D experience with another human being,then you're missing out bigtime.

Guys here who've ever had the experience of being with a physically beautiful gal who exherted zero energy or imagination in bed and who's attitude made them feel like she was doing them a favor know what I'm talking about here.

I find it kinda funny coming from someone who considered (have you followed through?) implants as a way of improving your self esteem.

If you're female and you're bitching and superficiality and shallowness, please keep your traps closed unless you don't wear makeup, wonder bras, color your hair, use nail extensions, hair extensions, eyelash extensions, ass enhancers, paint your nails, shave your legs, wear assloads of jelwerly, and whatever tools you girls use to show others just how wonderful and witty and smart you are.

I'm considering implants because having successfully dieted myself down to almost model leaness,people look at me and actually say things aloud like "nice looking woman but where's her tits?" or show me ads for water bras.

How vain. How can you preach to me about me wanting my g/f to lose weight (me being her boyfriend, caring about her looks/health) while you think it's okay to make yourself look better to a person that say " nice looking woman but where's her tits?".



Don't lecture me anymore. IMO that's horrible for you to spend this much effort telling me about what I'm asking of my g/f is wrong when your ideas are about 10x worse.

 

[Gurck]

Nothing at all wrong with plastic surgery, so long as you don't go overboard, imo (or go past simply 'overboard' and end up in an entirely different ocean, like Michael Jackson).

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm just dumbfounded so many women even on this forum fall into that stupid "I'm so pathetic, the whole universe thinks I'm fat and is out to undermine my self esteem" trap. Do you enjoy sitting around being societies' big victims? Do you some how get off in placing yourself into a position of helplessness?

Melly, KerriAnn, I'm talking to you. Of course the whole world will judge you by outside appearance. Thats the way it is and I'll give birth to a full grown blue whale well before it ever changes. Some will love the way you look, others will abhor it...but neither really gives them any control over your feelings of self worth. I was depressed and defeated like that too...when I was 13! I grew the fvck out of it and accepted myself, flaws and all. I strive to fix the flaws that I can, and accept those that I can't. If I were you, I'd do the same.

This whiney crap is annoying and fruitless.

Did I ever once mention anything about me or my weight? Oh right, I told TG the reason why I was initially defensive with a personal situation to serve as the explanation. Something that happened 5 years ago. In this thread I have never ONCE complained about my weight or said I was helpless. I never NOT said we weren't judged by appearance. I just happened to think nothing was wrong with mine and I did have a shallow asshole of an ex bf. Why don't you read the fvcking thread properly next time, kthx.

Edit to reply to others cuz I can't find their initial q's:

Geekbabe: TG is trying to tell me that 32 B is curvy but in no way shape or form (pun intended) can anyone seriously tell me that those are considered to be curvy. I'm not trying to dis. I was that size once and I loved them just as much

Some other dude asked me "out of curiousity" what my height/weight are: I don't think it matters, but to satisify your curiosity I am about 5'2 and last weighed in at 139 about 4 months ago. I have been losing weight because my current job is leading me into a destructive lifestyle (shift work = hell on body, mind, and spirit) and I want to be fit. I like the look of a few extra pounds on me, but when I was underweight I was constantly getting sick and I have a low immune system to begin with. I was actually told to gain weight by my doctor at the time. I'm a size 9.

Not that it matters, but I don't believe you about your weight. The few pics you've posted make you appear to be larger than you are saying (in particular, the thread about waking up with scratches where you posted a pic of your arm that someone (including me) thought it was your leg)


From reading your responses I can't help but to think that you must have some sort of underlying problem.. be it weight or whatever. I don't understand why or how it is wrong of me to ask my girlfriend to be HEALTHY. You, among others, (geekbabe, and her loyal followers who aren't getting any today OR tommorow) are acting like I told her to either turn into an olsen twin or get out of my life. I didn't.


Edit;
Also, as the previous poster stated, didn't you say you were a 38c? My ex gf was about 5'0, 100lbs ish (I think,) and 34c (or 36D) At your height would your size of 38c match up?

Will somebody help me pick my jaw up off the floor please? The rudeness of these comments has floored me:Q

 

[Gurck]

To be fair, the comments on both sides have gotten decidedly more abrasive the past fifty posts or so.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: armatron

Originally posted by: melly

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I'm just dumbfounded so many women even on this forum fall into that stupid "I'm so pathetic, the whole universe thinks I'm fat and is out to undermine my self esteem" trap. Do you enjoy sitting around being societies' big victims? Do you some how get off in placing yourself into a position of helplessness?

Melly, KerriAnn, I'm talking to you. Of course the whole world will judge you by outside appearance. Thats the way it is and I'll give birth to a full grown blue whale well before it ever changes. Some will love the way you look, others will abhor it...but neither really gives them any control over your feelings of self worth. I was depressed and defeated like that too...when I was 13! I grew the fvck out of it and accepted myself, flaws and all. I strive to fix the flaws that I can, and accept those that I can't. If I were you, I'd do the same.

This whiney crap is annoying and fruitless.

Did I ever once mention anything about me or my weight? Oh right, I told TG the reason why I was initially defensive with a personal situation to serve as the explanation. Something that happened 5 years ago. In this thread I have never ONCE complained about my weight or said I was helpless. I never NOT said we weren't judged by appearance. I just happened to think nothing was wrong with mine and I did have a shallow asshole of an ex bf. Why don't you read the fvcking thread properly next time, kthx.

Edit to reply to others cuz I can't find their initial q's:

Geekbabe: TG is trying to tell me that 32 B is curvy but in no way shape or form (pun intended) can anyone seriously tell me that those are considered to be curvy. I'm not trying to dis. I was that size once and I loved them just as much

Some other dude asked me "out of curiousity" what my height/weight are: I don't think it matters, but to satisify your curiosity I am about 5'2 and last weighed in at 139 about 4 months ago. I have been losing weight because my current job is leading me into a destructive lifestyle (shift work = hell on body, mind, and spirit) and I want to be fit. I like the look of a few extra pounds on me, but when I was underweight I was constantly getting sick and I have a low immune system to begin with. I was actually told to gain weight by my doctor at the time. I'm a size 9.

Not that it matters, but I don't believe you about your weight. The few pics you've posted make you appear to be larger than you are saying (in particular, the thread about waking up with scratches where you posted a pic of your arm that someone (including me) thought it was your leg)


From reading your responses I can't help but to think that you must have some sort of underlying problem.. be it weight or whatever. I don't understand why or how it is wrong of me to ask my girlfriend to be HEALTHY. You, among others, (geekbabe, and her loyal followers who aren't getting any today OR tommorow) are acting like I told her to either turn into an olsen twin or get out of my life. I didn't.


Edit;
Also, as the previous poster stated, didn't you say you were a 38c? My ex gf was about 5'0, 100lbs ish (I think,) and 34c (or 36D) At your height would your size of 38c match up?

Will somebody help me pick my jaw up off the floor please? The rudeness of these comments has floored me:Q

So you can dish it out, but not take it?

 

[NeoHC421]

Originally posted by: Babbles
There is a certain degree of tact, but I really don't understand what the problem is with some guy wanting his girlfriend to get back into shape. I know when I started to develop a beer belly (still developing) my woman was on my rear end. I think that happens to a lot of guys, but guess the double standard kicks in when a guy says that to a girl, eh?

As others have mentioned, there are the obviously health benefits with getting in shape and I fail to see how his desire for his girlfriend to get in shape is a bad thing.

However, I will say that it is kind of bizarre mentioning it on AToT, but really nothing suprises me here anymore.

If there's one thing i've learned, it's that there is ALWAYS a double standard when it comes to women. You can't escape it. It's just a simple, sucky fact of life.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I think the post by the chick who said it would break her heart if she knew her B/F was talking about her weight on a forum populated with "Male Models" was pretty poignant. I bet your G/F's heart would be broken too if she knew what a schmuck you were.

Yeah, real men don't try to work things out, right RD? :disgust: It's not like he gave out any personal info or posted a picture.

Well speaking as a real man the last thing I would do is ask advice from the likes of you as you obviously haven't a fscking clue BOY!

If I were the OP I definately wouldn't come here asking for advise. What I would do is get her to change by changing my lifestyle. First of all start eating healthier. If that means he has to start cooking and buying the food then so be it. Secondly I would become more physically active in things that the both of us could do (go on hikes, join a gym, buy a couple of bikes and go riding on the weekend). The extra benefit is that the OP would get into better shape too instead of just being a skinny dork who has yet to hit his natural adult weight which could be a lot heavier than he is now if he doesn't take control of his diet and health.


This seems so obvious to me that I can't understand why someone needs to come here and ask what to do.

That's what I said earlier...Never in a million years tell a woman she's fat/overwieght/dumb IME it will have to opposite effect of what ones trying to achive.... About as far as I go to critisize is like last week when the brocoli has no seasoning and was really really bad...I said "I bet this brocoli would taste great with some grated cheese" and proceeded to grate cheese all over...low and behold last night she made it with grated cheese Stupid example i know.... but highlights a more proactive and less critical approach to get the results you want from someone you care about.

 

[NeoHC421]

Originally posted by: dfi
I think people are reading way too much into this thread. Too many people are trying to draw parallels to their personal lives, and are taking this thread as a way to vent their frustration with their personal issues.

Fundamentally, this thread is about armatron asking his significant other to change. Couples try to adapt and change in a relationship, whether it's a personality change, a physical change, or a change of habits. Is it really so wrong to ask for a change from your significant other? Must one party always suffer in silence for fear of hurting the other's emotions? If there is an aspect of your partner that you don't like, then I feel that tactful communication is the best response.

Don't think for a second that you will never ever try to change someone else's behavior. When you ask your husband to help with the dishes, you are trying to change his behavior. When you ask your child to finish his veggies at the dinner table, you are trying to change his behavior. It is the ability to both change and request change that keeps people together; it's the inability to do so that breaks people apart.

dfi

good post. well said

 

[jEnus]

Originally posted by: skace
The point of posting anonymously to a forum is so that you can get a question answered without people who know you ever knowing the problem existed. This goes doubly for what armatron is doing. To bring her to the forum and show her and explain that it was her would destroy the entire point of posting in on a forum in the first place.

Totally agree with this statement.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: armatron
I think we need to clarify, as people aren't reading the thread.

1) I eat healthy. I've tried to include her in that.
2) I run on average 3 times a week. She doesn't want to participate.
3) I am not breaking up with her. I am not making fun of her. I am Concerned for her Health. I am concerned that I might no longer be attracted to her if her current rate of weight gain continues.


This has ALL been covered in the previous posts, but it's apparently too much to filter through so people are just *blindly* posting.

And this is all perfectly normal IMHO.

Many couples go through this. I really don't see what the big deal is other than the double standard. I've helped many SOs on their diets...

And yes, 15 pounds is a big difference.

 

[Lazy8s]

lol I like how ppl are still arguing after the OP stopped posting

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s
lol I like how ppl are still arguing after the OP stopped posting

His last post was less than 2 hours ago.

 

[munruss]

tell the pig to stop eating junk food already!