I wonder what GA thinks about this?

networkman

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DASM!!! :|

We've got enough problems with idiots in the government calling RC5 a virus, and in general, not understanding the technology already in common use. And then, ON TOP OF THAT, we find these guys(in the article) admitting that they designed a program to work WITHOUT anyone's knowledge or permission in COMPLETE OPPOSITION to what the "legitimate" organizations like Dnet and Berkeley have advocated for Distributed Computing projects!!!!! If you thought it was difficult to get people to run DC projects before, just wait until some major news service picks this one up!

Am I mad? You bet! :|
 

networkman

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You sure about that? The ECCP project(last I checked) was a voluntary project - this would appear to be something else entirely.
 

Smoke

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Jan 3, 2001
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Now that takes the cake. And they are bragging about using servers without any permission or knowledge of the owners. Maybe they were using the AnandTech Servers because there have been times things have gotten reeaallll slllooowww lately.

Someone will surely try to make a connection to that action and cast further gloom on DC projects, even though the article did mention "Participants voluntary download the SETI@home software".
 

randy48

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<< Researchers at the >>

University of Notre Dame in Indiana solved a complex math problem with the unauthorized help of computers in North America, Europe and Asia. [/i] >>

University of Notre Dame



<< Of course, I'm indebted to the University of Notre Dame for allowing me to host this project on their webserver. >>

Here!
 

narzy

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thats the first thing that poped into my mind what network man said, this is just awful.
 

Wiz

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Well there you go, just because Asimov came up with the three laws of robotic doesn't mean they wont build smart robots whose sole purpose is to kill human beings.
Make all the "rules" you want, the ba$tards will still go and do exactly the wrong thing - "because it's there".
 

Smoke

Distributed Computing Elite Member
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...........the forums are sure loading slow for me tonight. Wonder if some of the "loyal sons" are using the AnandTech Servers tonight.
 

Wiz

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So where do I send the bill for the unauthorized use of my commercial computing equipment?
I run a web hosting service so I am sure these guys used my servers without my permission, now they gotta pay!
 

JHutch

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OK, from the way I understand this, they send a HTTP packet to your web server with bogus info in the packet header... Then, when you server looks at the bogus info, runs a normal checksum, their system uses this check to their own advantage.

I suppose you could get useful work done, but MAN! The amount of packets that would have to be flying back and forth! Any admin worth his salt would see the nasty bandwidth trend to their main server and lock that IP out fairly quickly.

I would also imagine this is more bandwidth limited than CPU limited. A modern computer can chew through simple http packet headers pretty fast. However, your nice T1 line will slow to a crawl if this happens. I'd imagine it would look a lot like a DoS attack if their end didn't have some intelligence at slowing the packets down...

I still think it is unethical bullcrap to try this in the first place, though...

JHutch

PS Okay, who is starting the betting pool on how long it takes one of those script kiddies to develop a hack of some sort that exploits this?
 

dmcowen674

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Hi Hutch and everybody,

I E-mailed that story and this thread to my Attorney. In fairness Georgia should supoena Notre Dame, I'm sure they accessed machines in Georgia, they too should be facing Felony charges of 30 yrs, charged for the Internet and Computer usage and a million or more dollars in restitution and damage amount as well.
 
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