Question i5-10400F & B560

[CU]

Was wanting to upgrade my kids computers. They are currently running A10-7860K w/ 7950 Pro, i5-3750 w/ GTX 1050, and G3220 w/ RX460. All three have have 8 gigs of ram and SSD's. Only play at 1080p and mostly Minecraft, Terraria, and Snowrunner right now. Also have started playing Minecraft VR through a Quest 2. Which works OK on the A10-7860K and i5-3750, but it is very slow on the G3220. I didn't really expect it to work on any of them at all actually. Considering how much worse the G3220 did and the GPU's are close'ish in performance Minecraft VR is CPU bound for that one.

As GPU's are crazy now, was looking at just doing a CPU upgrade. Was actually looking at AMD 3600's over the summer, but waited. Now AMD isn't so cheap compared to Intel. So, I am looking at the i5-10400F and a B560 MB (ASRock B560M PRO4). B560 doesn't really cost more than the B460 and now that the memory can be overclocked it is more attractive. For OC'ing the memory does the CPU matter or will any 10400 run ram rated at 3200 or higher on the new B560? As they are fine with 8gig of RAM now any reason not to save a little for a GPU down the road and just get 8gig again? Please keep in mind they are not playing new AAA games or need 60+ fps. Or, even have all the settings maxed. I figure down the road once GPU's come back down to earth a nice low to mid tier GPU should make just about any game fly at 1080p.

This seems doable at around $300-$350. and be a nice upgrade even without a new GPU. I am open to suggestions if something better is out there for the same price.

 

[UsandThem]

I saw the 10600K was on sale for $175 over on Slickdeals. Extra speed and unlocked CPU for not much than the 10400 (although that CPU is an good performer for it's price).

https://slickdeals.net/f/14871574-i...ee-shipping?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

 

[CU]

I saw the 10600K was on sale for $175 over on Slickdeals. Extra speed and unlocked CPU for not much than the 10400 (although that CPU is an good performer for it's price).

https://slickdeals.net/f/14871574-i...ee-shipping?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

I saw that. And I like it, but to overclock it I would need something nicer than a B560. And that means more money. Not to mention I don't plan to overclock the kids cpu's. I have enough tech support at home as is. Although I could just run it stock. The 'K' could help it hold its value if ever sold for something else like an i7 or i9 down the road. Think it is worth it if not overclocked?

 

[UsandThem]

I saw that. And I like it, but to overclock it I would need something nicer than a B560. And that means more money. Not to mention I don't plan to overclock the kids cpu's. I have enough tech support at home as is. Although I could just run it stock. The 'K' could help it hold its value if ever sold for something else like an i7 or i9 down the road. Think it is worth it if not overclocked?

For $175, I'd personally go with the 10600K and just run it at stock (since I already have coolers that can be converted to fit that socket).

It would still be higher performing than the 10400 since it has higher base/boost clocks. The only downside for the 10600K, is it doesn't come with a CPU cooler like the 10400 does, so that would be an added expense.

 

[CU]

For $175, I'd personally go with the 10600K and just run it at stock (since I already have coolers that can be converted to fit that socket).

It would still be higher performing than the 10400 since it has higher base/boost clocks. The only downside for the 10600K, is it doesn't come with a CPU cooler like the 10400 does, so that would be an added expense.

Forgot I would need to get a cooler for the 10600K. That would be another $30.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I was looking at B560 boards last night at Newegg, with the same thought. I have some (or will have, after I upgrade a bunch of Celeron 10th-Gen CPUs to Pentium Gold ones) 10th-gen CPUs, that I could pair up with a B560 board, and some faster RAM (OK, besides the Celerons, I have a 10400 and 10400F too).

It kills me to stick a 2x8GB kit of 3600(!) RAM into an OEM 10th-Gen rig, with the knowledge that it will only run at either 2666 (2x8GB) or even 2133 (4GB OEM RAM plus 16GB DDR4-3000).

If I bought some B560 boards (There's an ASRock -HDV model for $74.99, but currently SOLD OUT), and re-built them as a custom rig, things might run a bit better with faster RAM. I'm especially curious about the potential gains with a G6400 Pentium Gold CPU and a GT 1030 GPU, if there's any gains from utilizing DDR4-3600 RAM.

 

[CU]

Do you think the 10400F will drop much more right after the 11400F is released at the end of the month? You can already find the 10400F for around $140 and I believe it has gone for lower before. I think the 11400F is going to be listed at $179, so not really worth it over the 10400F.

 

[blckgrffn]

Normally I would agree that the 10%+ uplift on the 10600K - and the extra resale it will *always* have as a K part would be worth it. But the incredible uplift over what you have right now makes that 10% seem pretty small, and the cost increase by 3x ends up being notable.

I would say, consider the non-F part. That way if any of those GPUs has issues, you've got something. Adorama has the non-F part for $159 right now, I feel like that is cheap insurance.

In any case, I would do it right atm with the memory. If you are worried about memory speeds, you are going to do dual channel, right?

I see dual channel 8GB DDR4 3200 kit is ~$50. Minimum prices is $40.

A 16GB DDR4 3200 kit is $70. That's only ~$20 more for double the memory and you'll have full performance and capacity for the life of that CPU, and it will likely never be cheaper to get them to 16GB than right when you build them.

Are you a human?

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That's my $.02. Consider the onboard graphics 10400 variant for flexibility. Definitely consider doing the memory right from the jump.

And have fun with those kids It should be quite an upgrade!

 

[CU]

Never had Silicon Power ram, but it has good reviews on Amazon. First time for everything I guess. Thanks for your input.

 

[blckgrffn]

Never had Silicon Power ram, but it has good reviews on Amazon. First time for everything I guess. Thanks for your input.

I've used it a few times with zero issues, but to be honest memory comes from what, two or three sources? I just use what is the best price and has the specs I want at the time.

If Crucial is the same or just a little more, I'll grab it, I suppose.

I hope that it all comes together without issue for you!

 

[vailr]

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