i5-2500k at 5Ghz.. wow..

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General Kenobi

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5 GHz is the highest stable 2500K that I've heard about, although generally the people who get there either get sponsored CPUs or have enough money not to care about the risks.
 

Blades

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Not buying that OC since you admitted it froze at idle, and you're running it way past spec. Also, your stability claims are kinda vague. Run LinX even just 5 times in succession on all cores and all memory and see if it makes it without bailing. Mine barely makes it with the current specs.

Its fine now.. Before it froze due to (too much of) negative voltage offset..



Hitting 1.5V is a little rough.. But its stable.. and it stays relatively cool

Erm.. No sponsored processor? Its a retail i5-2500k from CompUSA retail store in Fort Lauderdale.. $200 (in store price was lower than web store - bonus for me). I also use the healing power of laughter to cool it.
 
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Rvenger

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Thats voltage is high. Definitely not a golden chip.
 

MadScientist

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Its fine now.. Before it froze due to (too much of) negative voltage offset..



Hitting 1.5V is a little rough.. But its stable.. and it stays relatively cool

Erm.. No sponsored processor? Its a retail i5-2500k from CompUSA retail store in Fort Lauderdale.. $200 (in store price was lower than web store - bonus for me). I also use the healing power of laughter to cool it.

Coretemp is reporting your VID as 1.5V. What's your core voltage, vcore, reported by CPUZ at 5.0Ghz???
 

Absolute0

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5 GHz is the highest stable 2500K that I've heard about, although generally the people who get there either get sponsored CPUs or have enough money not to care about the risks.

I was priming at 5.1 Ghz last night, but my Vcore was nearly 1.5 and my temps were approaching 80, so I called it quits

4.8 Ghz 1.3v so much easier on my chip

Many people get > 5Ghz stable though. Xtremesystems has a big list of people getting 5.1 to 5.2 Ghz stable with good air or water. Those are the best chips though, and who knows what the ambient temps are.

@ OP 5 Ghz stable is sweet. But 1.5 volts, I wouldn't run that 24/7. You might wanna back up to 4.8 or so like I did...
 

Blades

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Yeah, its 1.50VID... not so much in real vcore. Stable for me.. 1.384-1.392-1.400.. thats the average range of the cpu-z reported vcore.
 

Absolute0

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that's a good chip, i need 1.4v to do 5ghz stable

whats that benchmark program? is it as stressful as Prime?
 

Kenmitch

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Guy is user number 832 to your 1k+ and you're welcoming him...

I feel like an AT noob with you guys with my paltry user number 2132...



He made a new account and did the original post. Got mods to merge with his old account which is what shows now.
 

Blades

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Thats 7-zip... It hits pretty hard on the memory (in compression mode) and hard(er) on the cpu in decompression..

I'll bet things would change if this were in a case.. The strangest thing is that this boots up way faster than my laptop.. Which has two vertex 3s in raid0.. You know the initial high fan speed for the H80 upon bootup?? Well, its still in high speed mode when i'm booted to the desktop.. Thats crazy. Another way of putting it is that this samsung tv/monitor takes longer to turn on/warm up than it does to boot.

The reason I have two V3s in raid 0 in my laptop is because of the awful crashiness of a single on the HM67 chipset.. not a single crash with this (one) vertex 3 on the Z68.. Wonder what changed?

Part of me wants to put a nice gpu in this, run some pretty looking benchmarks and all that but I have a 560M in my laptop and a 460GTX on my AMD comp.. and I rarely ever use it for gaming.. Aside from Deus Ex HR (amazing) - So what would be the point? Besides, a gpu would totally kill my counter setup..

and as to the wife question.. nope.. and if i did.. I'd convince her that it was capable of fatal electric shock.. no touch.. for safety..

Have any useful benchmarks, for the sake of comparison. Nothing 24 hours, I use this computer too much

want a laugh? Heres a pandaboard OC'd to 1.5ghz (ti omap 4460) running the 7z benchmark

 
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Dadofamunky

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Its fine now.. Before it froze due to (too much of) negative voltage offset..

Erm.. No sponsored processor? Its a retail i5-2500k from CompUSA retail store in Fort Lauderdale.. $200 (in store price was lower than web store - bonus for me). I also use the healing power of laughter to cool it.

I'm going to try that. Don't know if it will make much difference. $200? That is insane. Awesome deal. I didn't know any of those places were still open. I'll admit, I wish I had the space to run it without a case and with similar cooling.
 

Blades

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They were bought by Systemax.. They are popping up around the east and mid US.. They are amazing, most of the time they have better deals than newegg! Their last incarnation.. when they were owned by Carlos Slim - it wasn't as good.. Hopefully you west coast guys gets some CompUSA love because its all around here in FL. I hope they stay in business, its so convienent. I was surprised too when it didn't turn out to be 219, as thats what it was advertised for - still a good deal.. it ended up being around 212 with tax.

Vertex 3 120GB was around 145 after rebate too.
 

ArchAngel777

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The 2500ks are great OCs but at 5GHZ I begin to wonder about stability also. Some chips are and some aren't stable at such a high as 5 Ghz no matter what settings. As for me you can see my settings on both 2500k rigs below. They both have a 44 multiplier and a fsb of 103. This fsb setting originally came about from using the Asus OCing software on my Asus rig for a moderate OC. I can run Intel Burn test all day long, prime 95 till the "cows come home" OCCP?, AIDA64 stress test and on and on and both rigs are rock solid. I like to game so extended gaming sessions are a breeze.
I choose very good mbs and pushed the cpus but not to the breaking point just to say I reached a certain mark.

IMO the diminishing returns are enough reason to just settle for 4.5/4.6Ghz. Sure, 5Ghz might be possible and it might even be safe long term, but do you really want to suck 200+ watts idle?
 

Blades

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I have HT on my laptop.. Not a huge fan.. Rather indifferent to it.. Most of the time it can be annoying to see a single threaded app run using (obviously) one thread.. but knowing that one thread its technically.. using half a core.. if thats even how all that works... Is there only really a benefit when you can't specify the # of jobs/threads for a multithreaded program? When it only goes off the reported # of cpus/threads you have? make -j48 or ffmpeg -threads xyz tends do just fine for me.

and my idle wattage is barely anything. I still idle at 1.6ghz.
 

Joseph F

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I have HT on my laptop.. Not a huge fan.. Rather indifferent to it.. Most of the time it can be annoying to see a single threaded app run using (obviously) one thread.. but knowing that one thread its technically.. using half a core.. if thats even how all that works... Is there only really a benefit when you can't specify the # of jobs/threads for a multithreaded program? When it only goes off the reported # of cpus/threads you have? make -j48 or ffmpeg -threads xyz tends do just fine for me.

and my idle wattage is barely anything. I still idle at 1.6ghz.

What happens when you're running a two-threaded application on a single HT-enabled core, is that the second thread only runs when the first thread stalls the core for whatever reason. HT is basically putting a second front-end on a single core that intelligently kicks-in when the core isn't doing anything. (waiting for requested data, etc)

Waiting for IDC, pm, IntelUser2000, [Insert knowledgeable person here] to verify this.
 

janas19

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What happens when you're running a two-threaded application on a single HT-enabled core, is that the second thread only runs when the first thread stalls the core for whatever reason. HT is basically putting a second front-end on a single core that intelligently kicks-in when the core isn't doing anything. (waiting for requested data, etc)

Waiting for IDC, pm, IntelUser2000, [Insert knowledgeable person here] to verify this.

Pretty much, I believe. Sth about the instruction pipeline, with the ADD/Fetch/Decode, instead of stalling out on a bad instruction, it can flip it somehow and make use of that resource... it's sth like that, but I don't know off the top.
 

Haserath

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What happens when you're running a two-threaded application on a single HT-enabled core, is that the second thread only runs when the first thread stalls the core for whatever reason. HT is basically putting a second front-end on a single core that intelligently kicks-in when the core isn't doing anything. (waiting for requested data, etc)

Waiting for IDC, pm, IntelUser2000, [Insert knowledgeable person here] to verify this.
I believe the threads also share execution resources when there aren't any stalls. Superthreading would flip-flop between threads if one stalled while Hyperthreading would simultaneously execute threads.

@Blades- You have the case I wish I could have, but I'd be too afraid of breaking my baby.
 

Idontcare

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What happens when you're running a two-threaded application on a single HT-enabled core, is that the second thread only runs when the first thread stalls the core for whatever reason. HT is basically putting a second front-end on a single core that intelligently kicks-in when the core isn't doing anything. (waiting for requested data, etc)

Waiting for IDC, pm, IntelUser2000, [Insert knowledgeable person here] to verify this.

The way you describe it is the way I understand it to be.

Think of it like setting the thread priority in windows task manager.

One thread is set to "high" and the other thread is set to "low".

Only when the thread with high priority stalls, be it from memory access or some such, and the core utilization would otherwise drop below 100% does the second thread with low priority get processing time.

However, this is a very superficial (on my part) understanding of what is going on. Really the one's we need to chime in and explain this to us are tuxdave and pm.
 

GammaLaser

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One thread is set to "high" and the other thread is set to "low".

Only when the thread with high priority stalls, be it from memory access or some such, and the core utilization would otherwise drop below 100% does the second thread with low priority get processing time.

In the case of HyperThreading (which implements simultaneous multithreading, the form of MT where two threads can both execute at the same instant), it is actually not necessary for one thread to be stalled for the other thread to issue instructions and use some of the execution resources. There are schemes in place to prevent resource monopolization by a single thread, though. A nice article about SMT/HT (from the P4 days) can be found at Ars Technica.

I believe newer versions of SPARC operates more like you describe, where the hardware explicitly switches threads during long latency events like cache misses. Modern x86 has very wide cores in comparision so it makes sense to use SMT to maximize utilization of all the resources.
 
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TekDemon

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I can get my 2500K to be 5Ghz stable under both prime and intelburntest but it requires shoving 1.5V into the thing to really keep it stable. Pretty pointless since there's no real world difference between 4.6Ghz and 5Ghz lol.
 

guskline

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I can get my 2500K to be 5Ghz stable under both prime and intelburntest but it requires shoving 1.5V into the thing to really keep it stable. Pretty pointless since there's no real world difference between 4.6Ghz and 5Ghz lol.

Agreed. My sweet spot is 4532 (44x103).
 

deimos3428

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I like your case. I'd consider repositioning the fan on your radiator, though. From the picture it looks like it's blowing the hot air back onto the mobo. Not a big deal in open air, but it's not helping. (Or just get a 10-12" desk fan and call it a day.)
 
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