Makaveli
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That's exactly what everyone says about anything beyond 1600 on ddr3 lol...
(and they are right)
Yup cause most software isn't bottlenecked by ram speed.
That's exactly what everyone says about anything beyond 1600 on ddr3 lol...
(and they are right)
Why are so many still arguing the X99 is a lot more expensive than Z97? Unless you want basic features, a high-end Z97 motherboard is about equal to one of the lower-mid end X99 motherboards, bar a few exceptions like the Maximus Formula - anyone paying £300+ for that clearly hasn't got a clue what they're doing.
Take a look at the Asus X99-S and compare it to a universally acclaimed Z97 motherboard like the Asus Z97 Sabertooth Mk1. Price wise they're about the same, yet the X99 board boasts better connectivity (M.2 Socket, more (native) SATA ports, more USB 3.0 ports), more internal features and better memory architecture.
The difference between high end DDR3 and similar DDR4 is minimal right now from anything over 2133MHz.
The main difference lies in processor, and unless you need an eight-core for major video editing/rendering tasks, the 5820K costs a very small premium over a high end Z97 4790k, and the only factor in Z97's favour is the 4790k's stock clock. That's it.
Honestly I am disturbed by forum posters like StrangerGuy who classify anyone who doesn't make exactly the same decisions as him as idiots. I have had a lot of fun with my Z97X-UD5H-BK. I got a pretty decent deal on it as a used combo. On a cold night it let the 4790K hit 5.0 GHz stable. Not exactly a 24/7 setting, but still worth every penny, imo.Features alone do not a motherboard make.
Quickie example. http://sinhardware.com/index.php/vrm-list
Absolutely the above is essentially irrelevant for most users, but not all by a long shot.
Beware blanket statements.
Honestly I am disturbed by forum posters like StrangerGuy who classify anyone who doesn't make exactly the same decisions as him as idiots. I have had a lot of fun with my Z97X-UD5H-BK. I got a pretty decent deal on it as a used combo. On a cold night it let the 4790K hit 5.0 GHz stable. Not exactly a 24/7 setting, but still worth every penny, imo.
The ram in the build Im looking to put together just dropped to $399.99. Thats 32gigs of ddr4-2666 @ cas15. It started off at $550 a few months back. DDR4 kits, at least the larger ones, are dropping in price fast!
My build is now around $1900ish - 5820k, msi black, 32gig ram, 500gb 850 evo + 3tb wd black, $400 video card etc.
Im pretty stoked Im well under $2k now for my planned x99 build. Im hoping for $1750 in a month or two~
Hey, you are the one calling people idiots, not me. I take exception to that, it's just a motherboard. If someone decided to pay some extra to get the look they want, the power phases they want, the on-board power buttons they want, the NIC they want, that shouldn't be for you to disparage unchallenged.Oh sure man, let's move goalposts with used boards so you can take my comment entirely out of context when I was obviously talking about brand new prices. Even you yourself said 5GHz wasn't a 24/7 setting, *hardly* a noteworthy feat.
Hey, you are the one calling people idiots, not me. I take exception to that, it's just a motherboard. If someone decided to pay some extra to get the look they want, the power phases they want, the on-board power buttons they want, the NIC they want, that shouldn't be for you to disparage unchallenged.
32GB of DDR4 2666? Can I ask what usage requires that extra bandwidth for such a large increase in price over DDR4 2133 (or even DDR4 2400)?
I wrote a really long reply and then I curiously checked prices and realized it was all kinda moot. There is an average of a $50-$60 difference between ddr4-2133 and ddr4-2666 for 32gb kits. That is not a large increase. Like I said this kit used to be $550...its now $399. Also DDR4-2133 is a terrible investment as its slower then DDR3-2133 and cost more money. If I'm going to pay a premium for DDR4, wouldn't it make sense to get something for that premium? Anandtech did a great DDR4 scaling article and it showed that 2133 was 5-10% slower then the rest in the benchmarks that matter to me. They concluded your bare minimum aim should be 2400 @ cas15 and anything over 2800 is a waste of money for the gains you get. 2666 kits sit between those two and have best price/performance and hit 2800 easily.
To answer your question, I shoot and edit video for a living. Need a new system to handle my 4k workflow. Faster ram helps encoding/decoding, compression/converting formats, rendering etc. etc. Why invest into a new platform, one I plan to have around 4-5 years, and get one of the slower speeds of ram? Doesn't seem logical to me.
It's mostly Hynix crap out there..
There's a few Micron and Samsung, though.
The sticks I have won't budge past 2800..any of them.
What I'm was saying is people want to spend ~$300+ on mobo and cooling to overclock a 4690K instead of getting a cheapo X99 + 5820K then they are idiots.
Oh, I'm sorry...Wait I'm not. You want to waste your money against better judgement? Fine with me.
What I'm was saying is people want to spend ~$300+ on mobo and cooling to overclock a 4690K instead of getting a cheapo X99 + 5820K then they are idiots.
Oh, I'm sorry...Wait I'm not. You want to waste your money against better judgement? Fine with me.