I7 920 (1st Gen) OC @ 3.6 Ghz looking for upgrade

mdzapeer

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I have been running an i7920 for a long time now and finally think its time to upgrade, even though I have not been running into many performance issues. (Mostly gaming/Emulation)

Was looking at the Haswell-E series and think a 6 core part should last me a long time like the I7920. I already have a build in mind, but with so much stuff out there, I hope to get some more insight.

So need some advice on mobo/cpu/combo. Thanks in advance.
 

mdzapeer

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Also looking into cases, nothing to fancy looking but it MUST have protection/filters for dust.
 

RaistlinZ

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Are you looking for a full tower, or something smaller/more compact? Will you be keeping any components from your current rig (HDD, GPU, PSU, etc)?
 

biostud

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There's really no bad choices in X99, just don't pay for something you don't need. I've been happy with the setup in my sig.
 

mdzapeer

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Are you looking for a full tower, or something smaller/more compact? Will you be keeping any components from your current rig (HDD, GPU, PSU, etc)?

Ye full tower, keeping everything else, GPU ( 670 Gtx), PSU and HDDs/SSDs.

Also dont want windows....if they cant be avoided, I will just have to block them up, if the case excels.
 

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Are you talking about the Extreme edition...??? 60 $ doesnt add up.

he's talking about a Xeon X5650 or X5660.
they're pretty cheap on ebay.

I myself had the core i7-920, considered upgrading just like you did, and ended up getting a Xeon X5675 instead.

Overclocked, you get about 11'000 points in CPU Mark: http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=38648363822

EDIT: can you actually test your 4GHz core i7-920 and let me know your CPU Mark score?
 
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escrow4

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he's talking about a Xeon X5650 or X5660.
they're pretty cheap on ebay.

I myself had the core i7-920, considered upgrading just like you did, and ended up getting a Xeon X5675 instead.

Overclocked, you get about 11'000 points in CPU Mark: http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=38648363822

EDIT: can you actually test your 4GHz core i7-920 and let me know your CPU Mark score?

Why go from old crap to old crap? If you are upgrading go X99.
 

Chocu1a

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he's talking about a Xeon X5650 or X5660.
they're pretty cheap on ebay.

I myself had the core i7-920, considered upgrading just like you did, and ended up getting a Xeon X5675 instead.

Overclocked, you get about 11'000 points in CPU Mark: http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=38648363822

EDIT: can you actually test your 4GHz core i7-920 and let me know your CPU Mark score?

Why go from old crap to old crap? If you are upgrading go X99.

I was going to upgrade to Haswell myself. Ended up grabbing a Xeon x5670 for real cheap. Overclocked to 4.2. Keeps up with a modern cpu for a fraction of the price. Keeping this old x58 system for another couple of years.
Cost for x58 Xeon- $100. (cpu only, keep other hardware)
Cost for z97 Haswell- $400-$500 (cpu & mobo, keep old ram)
Cost for x99- $775-$800 (cpu, mobo, ram)

Keep the x58 set-up, Add a Xeon 6-core, use the savings to get a better gpu. I went from 2-gtx670 sli to a single gtx970 & the improvement is amazing.
 
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scannall

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Why go from old crap to old crap? If you are upgrading go X99.

Because you can do it for very little money while waiting for emerging tech to come down in price over the next year or two. Thinking mostly of DDR4 and Pcie SSD's.

So, why spend a ton now, when your X99 will soon be replaced with a new socket, and very few of your parts will carry forward.
 

strikermike

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You are pretty much in the same boat I am. I am looking to upgrade from an I7-950.
I just ordered a 970 gpu. So I think I am leaning toward the Xeon.
 

ozzy702

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Why go from old crap to old crap? If you are upgrading go X99.

X58 based six cores aren't exactly crap, especially depending upon the application. They stomp a 4770k into the ground in multithreaded, especially once they are overclocked to 4ghz and for $60-$125 depending on the chip they're a dirt cheap upgrade.

OP, pick up a cheap six core, OC it and rock out until skylake is available.
 

Dave2150

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X58 based six cores aren't exactly crap, especially depending upon the application. They stomp a 4770k into the ground in multithreaded, especially once they are overclocked to 4ghz and for $60-$125 depending on the chip they're a dirt cheap upgrade.

OP, pick up a cheap six core, OC it and rock out until skylake is available.

X58 platform is utter crap now though, in terms of feature support.

No SATA3, no PCI-EV3, no M.2, no Sata Express, all CPU's/motherboards out of warranty, no UEFI, no USB3.

I wouldn't recommend investing more money into old x58 hardware. Better to save for something new, with warranty, with new technologies, better efficiency, an upgrade path etc etc.
 

CropDuster

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X58 platform is utter crap now though, in terms of feature support.

No SATA3, no PCI-EV3, no M.2, no Sata Express, all CPU's/motherboards out of warranty, no UEFI, no USB3.

I wouldn't recommend investing more money into old x58 hardware. Better to save for something new, with warranty, with new technologies, better efficiency, an upgrade path etc etc.

HTF is X58 utter crap? All that stuff you listed makes almost no difference in real world use unless you have a specific need for it, and it doesn't appear OP would. $65 requires no saving compared to buying new cpu+mobo+ram.
 

Dave2150

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HTF is X58 utter crap? All that stuff you listed makes almost no difference in real world use unless you have a specific need for it, and it doesn't appear OP would. $65 requires no saving compared to buying new cpu+mobo+ram.

All the technologies I listed, when combined together, make for quite the feature set upgrade.

I'd argue that the majority of users who are buying high end desktop PC's today would make use of most of these features. USB3/M.2 make a huge difference alone.

Also bear in mind the X58 setup has no warranty at all at this stage, though if you wanna recommend people to invest into it and keep the x58 setup for years and years, go ahead.
 

cboath

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Not so much simply if you need it 'now'. If M.2 Comes down comparable to SSD in the next year or two, for example, you're outta luck with X58, but ready to go with X99. Same with UEFI, USB, eSATA, SATA3, etc.

Crap is probably not the right word, but X58 is well over 5 years old now.

I'm in the same boat (920) now and likely building a new one as well. My MB, i think, maxes out at 24GB and i'm considering 32. Not overly concerned about M.2, but would like usb 3 and SATA3. I might not need it all right this second, but it's something i'll definitely be after in the not too distant future.

And as I noted earlier, if M.2 gets to an affordable price, i'd through one in to see what it can do. It's a definite skip, though, if my current MB doesn't support it.
 

Venoom

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All the technologies I listed, when combined together, make for quite the feature set upgrade.

I'd argue that the majority of users who are buying high end desktop PC's today would make use of most of these features. USB3/M.2 make a huge difference alone.

Also bear in mind the X58 setup has no warranty at all at this stage, though if you wanna recommend people to invest into it and keep the x58 setup for years and years, go ahead.

I only need USB 3 for emptying my DSLR's memory card (24MP files) and my X58 motherboard has that feature anyway.
SATA 3 would be nice (my motherboard has it but with a crappy controller so I don't use it) but it's such a small difference with SATA 2, when compared to the huge leap going from an HDD to an SSD.
My motherboard is the EVGA FTW3, and it is STILL under warranty.
I don't care about the CPU warranty: it's cheap, and it's a Xeon: a workhorse server CPU.

For me it is not even a money issue: I thought about it, with a cheap upgrade, I get a machine comparable to 4770K in performance, and even better in multithreaded. I do not need to upgrade everything now: waiting a year or two for prices to come down and all the new technology to mature is a much better thing to do in my opinion.

I don't feel limited at all with my PC, with a 4GHz 6-core CPU, 16GB of RAM, an SSD and a GTX 970.

Is it really wise to spend at least $1'100 ( http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QTrm23 ) to get a new motherboard, a new CPU and 32GB of DDR4 RAM, with Skylake just around the corner?
(and before you argue about my choice of parts, no, I will not invest in X99 with a cheap 150$ motherboard or only 16GB of RAM that I already have on X58)

and the thing with new tech is that it's often not stable or mature.
remember SATA 3 when it first came out on X58 with the Marvell chipset? it was complete crap.
so I'd rather not jump on new technology the minute it comes out.

Unless you have some specific needs, or really care about power usage, or tons of cash to burn, spending 60 to 150$ for a massive CPU upgrade is more than enough to wait a little longer for Skylake to come out, especially for gaming.
It will let OP spend money on a better GPU, and save for a better replacement in 1 or 2 years.

I play the most recent games at Ultra settings at ease, at 1920x1200.
Postprocessing is also much nicer with a 4GHz 6-cores CPU, although I could use more RAM.
if I had any performance issues, I would not have hesitated to upgrade to X99, that was even my intention before I found out about the cheap Xeons.
 
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