i7-9700k 8/16 core and others leaked? Is this legit?

[Hulk]

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-9700k-9th-gen-8-cores-16-threads-rumor/

Saw this earlier today and either missed the thread here or it hasn't been posted yet.

Do you think it's legit? If it was "leaked" I'm sure Intel wanted it leaked right? They can keep a secret when they need to.

 

[StinkyPinky]

There are lots of reports that intel is having a very hard time with 10nm and may even regress in performance in the first generation. So making an 8 core cpu to compete against AMD makes sense.

 

[Campy]

I think it's legit, there have been enough rumours about an 8 core mainstream chip now that I would be more surprised if it didn't materialize. I think it's probably 14nm if it comes out in 2018, otherwise Intel have really sped up their 10nm(not likely).
If the octacore clocks to 5ghz I might have to get one, if so that'd be me going from 4/4 to 4/4 to 8/16 in little over a year. However the most interesting part of the rumour is HT being enabled on the entire lineup.

I wonder if Intel are responding to Ryzen with this or if they know something we don't about the updated Ryzen that comes out next year. Maybe even more cores, or much higher clocks? Pure speculation of course, but very exciting.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Yes. Intel is floundering on 10nm, and they need something to compete with amd, so they're releasing a mainstream 8 core on 14nm.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Surprised they're using the i9 monicker. Regardless this would appear to be the 8c/16t Coffeelake rumoured to exist some time ago.

 

[Triloby]

Surprised they're using the i9 monicker. Regardless this would appear to be the 8c/16t Coffeelake rumoured to exist some time ago.

They're not. The rumored article says "i7-9700K" under the 9th generation of Core i7's. OP just made a little spelling error.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Oh okay, thought I was losing my marbles there. Er well the rest of them.

 

[Dufus]

Don't think it's too surprising that the i7-8700k would be followed by the i7-9700k. But I wonder what the next one after that will be?

 

[imported_bman]

If the 9700k clocks nicely I could see it being the next Sandybridge. Will be interesting what this means for Intel's HEDT lineup, I don't see more than 8 cores being necessary for anyone except people doing HPC or video professionals for a long time. The only places the mainstream platform will be lacking is with the PCIe lanes (the only place I care about PCIe lanes is with NVMe being routed through the PHC) and memory bandwidth (though this can be alleviated with high speed DDR4).

The other place where Intel's new lineup will be very interesting is with iMacs. An iMac could become a legit AIO gaming machine using bootcamp plus an external GPU with the next gen Thunderbolt 3 controller (enables DP 1.4, which has DSC thus there should be enough bandwidth for both a 5k video signal and the CPU-GPU traffic). An 8-core option for the iMac could really put a damper on the Mac Pro lineup.

 

[Hulk]

Oh okay, thought I was losing my marbles there. Er well the rest of them.

Actually it is i9. https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9700k-9th-gen-flagship-cpu-8-cores-16-threads

I forgot to include this link as well.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Woops there went the rest of the marbles. Dammit Intel!

 

[scannall]

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-9700k-9th-gen-8-cores-16-threads-rumor/

Saw this earlier today and either missed the thread here or it hasn't been posted yet.

Do you think it's legit? If it was "leaked" I'm sure Intel wanted it leaked right? They can keep a secret when they need to.

 

[Dufus]

Actually it is i9. https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9700k-9th-gen-flagship-cpu-8-cores-16-threads

I forgot to include this link as well.

And if you go back far enough from who quoted who
http://www.hkepc.com/15957/

And it's i7-9700k.

Spoiler: HKEPC - Next generation Core i7-9700K with 8 core, 16 threads New Pentium Gold, Celeron G series

 

[gOJDO_n]

Intel have many reasons not to let AMD to overtake a CPU crown in any segment. They already have learned the lesson 15 years ago with Athlon/Athlon64 and Opteron.
Such 8 core desktop CPU like the i7 9700K would be a double-edge sword for Intel. It will compete with Ryzen 7 and ThreadRipper with 8 to 12 cores, but it will also compete with the X299 platform. It will cannibalize the sales of all the Skylake-X CPUs with LCC(Low Core Count) of up to 10 cores because it is going to outperform them badly in most of the apps at half the price for the mainboard and the CPU. Clock for clock, core for core and thread for thread the i7 9700k will outperform any 8 core CPU x86 that will exist when it will be released. I hope that Intel will finally replace the TIM with a solder, so it can achieve higher clocks (perhaps 5GHz 1-core / 4.5GHz 8-core boost). I expect Intel to improve their Turbo-Boost algorithm with a more sophisticated one which will control each core frequency and voltage individually. Maybe they will add 8 more PCI-e 3.0 lanes to the CPU so the new platform will have the Intel X299 and AMD X399 platforms premium possibility to run two VGAs @PCIe 3.0 x8 + two SSDs @PCIe 3.0 x4.

 

[tential]

Sounds great for us. Thanks AMD for the competition. I'll pick up a 9700k now.

It took Ryzen for intel to have to match AMD core for core.

This CPU competition trickledown effect is hilarious.

Now, i5s in laptops are almost on par with a high end haswell CPU. This is just ridiculous.

Remember when people were recommending dual cores......
Ya... 2 threads will definitely have a LOT of longevity to them now /sarcasm

Oh this competition is FUN!

 

[Excessi0n]

And if you go back far enough from who quoted who
http://www.hkepc.com/15957/

And it's i7-9700k.

Spoiler: HKEPC - Next generation Core i7-9700K with 8 core, 16 threads New Pentium Gold, Celeron G series

Wait, that says that ninth-gen is Cannonlake. I thought we weren't going to get Cannonlake desktop parts at all?

 

[IEC]

The million $ question is: Will some version of the 8-core work on Z370?

 

[epsilon84]

14nm or not, this should give Intel the outright desktop performance crown back, even in MT performance. Performance/watt would be it's biggest weakness, but that is of less concern on a desktop chip. Intel could negate the higher power consumption with the use of solder rather than TIM as another poster above said, I'm not holding my breath on that one though.

What are the chances of this being compatible with existing Z370 mobos?

Also, the fact that HT will be enabled on all chips will be a welcome change if true, and has been a long time coming IMO. Even a 4C/8T i3 will be a very capable general desktop and gaming chip.

 

[BigDaveX]

What are the chances of this being compatible with existing Z370 mobos?

Depends on whether they need to change the power delivery system again. I'd hope they future-proofed it a bit more this time, seeing how the basic electrical design of their CPUs apparently stayed the same between Lynnfield and Kabylake, but you never know.

 

[DrMrLordX]

14nm or not, this should give Intel the outright desktop performance crown back, even in MT performance.

Actually, the current situation will not shift as much in Intel's favor as you might think. If it's on 14nm++ like the 8700k, I doubt that it's top clockspeed will go up by much, and all they get is a max 33% increase in MT performance assuming perfect scaling.

In contrast, AMD is going to get a 10% increase in performance across the board with Pinnacle Ridge, plus who knows what from optimized IF/IMC performance. Should be interesting to see who comes out on top.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Intel could negate the higher power consumption with the use of solder rather than TIM as another poster above said, I'm not holding my breath on that one though.

I can't see this happening. It's all TIM from now on very likely. I mean, they use TIM on Xeon Phi "Knights Landing" CPUs.

This is interesting too: https://fuse.wikichip.org/news/484/8th-gen-coffee-lake-and-9th-gen-lineup/

Xeon E
The more mysterious parts in the list are the two Xeon E parts:

• Xeon E-2176M
• Xeon E-2186M

Early this year when Intel introduced the Xeon Scalable Processor based on Skylake-SP, they listed “Xeon E” as one of the new families that are based on the Skylake server microarchitecture.

The naming seems extremely similar to mobile Xeon E3 chips out right now.

Perhaps its a Skylake-SP based mobile Xeon?

 

[Borealis7]

can we dream of a 4C/8T i5-9600K 5GHz all core turbo on refined 14nm process under 100W TDP? it would be the gamer's wet dream. i'll replace my 7700K for that! (the 7700K already turbos to 4.5GHz)

 

[Jan Olšan]

The million $ question is: Will some version of the 8-core work on Z370?

Unless it is still Coffee Lake, no. Ice Lake is a new platform, new architecture, that stuff never works in older socket.

That said the original source http://www.hkepc.com/15957/ is calling this Cannon Lake, while we kinda know that such chips are not coming to desktop, since Coffee Lake is actually a stand-in for them. Intel itself says generation 9000 is going to be Ice Lake (Cannon is 8000). That rather casts doubt over this whole report for me.

Ice Lake on desktop itself is fairly likely to have a 8c/16t version though, when it eventually comes. Unless Intel wants to resist the core-count raising trend. And the top SKU of that thing might end up being called i7-9700K just like this speculation says... unless Intel adds Gold/Platinum/Caturdaytium titles to the CPUs which I'd expect to happen.

The naming seems extremely similar to mobile Xeon E3 chips out right now.

Perhaps its a Skylake-SP based mobile Xeon?

Those should be ECC-enabled versions of Coffee Lake-S and Coffee Lake-H, basically the thing that is called Xeon E3 now.

 

[Dufus]

What are the chances of this being compatible with existing Z370 mobos?

Zero to none going by this post a couple of months ago

We are planning to update Tornado F5 to Z390 chipset supporting 8C/16T CPUs coming in H2/18. We will launch F7 at the same time too. We will skip z370 chipset. Meantime we added support for Quadro P5000 and P3000.

Sounds like there's probably going to be some happy laptop users, well those with deep enough pockets.

The naming seems extremely similar to mobile Xeon E3 chips out right now.

The Xeon's also use M to denote supported memory capacity such as the 8180 and 8180M

 

[Gikaseixas]

can we dream of a 4C/8T i5-9600K 5GHz all core turbo on refined 14nm process under 100W TDP? it would be the gamer's wet dream. i'll replace my 7700K for that! (the 7700K already turbos to 4.5GHz)

The i5 8600K is a 6 core cpu already. I doubt they would decrease core count when 6 real cores seem to be the perfect fit for Gaming right now.

You could call it i3 9350K. At $180 that could be the choice of many budget gamers