i7-9700k 8/16 core and others leaked? Is this legit?

[Dayman1225]

 

[IRobot23]

Icelake is the core change.

No offence , but we thought same for coffee.
I see desktop version coffee will be here until 2019.

So 9000 is coffee.

 

[Yotsugi]

No offence , but we thought same for coffee.
I see desktop version coffee will be here until 2019.

So 9000 is coffee.

But we didn't?
Everyone knew Covfefe is another SKL refresh.

 

[Dayman1225]

No offence , but we thought same for coffee.
I see desktop version coffee will be here until 2019.

So 9000 is coffee.

9000 is not coffee.

 

[Yotsugi]

9000 is not coffee.

It very well might be one.

Cascade Lake-X is only Q4 2018?
God forbid if AMD actually refreshes TR.

 

[Dayman1225]

It very well might be one.

Cascade Lake-X is only Q4 2018?
God forbid if AMD actually refreshes TR.

Notice the lack of 8 core Coffee Lake on that road map and that this rumor thread is 8/16 9th gen? Yeah I don't think it's coffee at all. Cascade Lake X is lameo. Should be the same 18c on x299, 14nm++ refresh.

 

[Yotsugi]

Notice the lack of 8 core Coffee Lake on that road map and that this rumor thread is 8/16 9th gen? Yeah I don't think it's coffee at all. Cascade Lake X is lameo. Should be the same 18c on x299, 14nm++ refresh.

Gotcha.
Though this sounds pretty bad, should AMD go for clocks with client-only PR die.
Intel needs the performance crown.

 

[Dayman1225]

Gotcha.
Though this sounds pretty bad, should AMD go for clocks with client-only PR die.
Intel needs the performance crown.

Unless Intel is hiding cards I don't see 8/16 until 9000 series. Which isn't exactly great for Intel.

 

[Yotsugi]

Unless Intel is hiding cards I don't see 8/16 until 9000 series.

Well, probably. More cores == less margins, and any less margins and BK will face the day of the rope from the shareholders.

Which isn't exactly great for Intel.

CFL-S launch did nothing to 1600/1600x sales.
Should AMD close the clockspeed gap and do something about the memory latency, the situation for Intel will go from bad to worse.
Also is Z370 going EOL Q1 2018?
That's probably the most shot-lived chipset I've seen in recent years.

 

[Mulrian]

Intel's motherboard lineup is a mess. Z370 now with Z390 early next year which gives very few improvements. Then I assume Z470 in Q1 2019?

 

[Hulk]

I wish Intel would do something like this with their product stack.
i7 - 8/16
i5 - 6/12
i3 - 4/8
Pentium - 2/4
Celeron - 2/2

And of course varying levels of cache, GPU, memory speeds, ...

It would make sense I think but from a marketing perspective 9 is bigger than 7 so the 8 cores will probably be i9.
Of course the big question is if these 8/16 desktop parts are going to be 14++ or 10nm? Maybe for economic reasons they're waiting to get them on 10nm? If they can just get those electrons to behave!

 

[Mulrian]

I wish Intel would do something like this with their product stack.
Of course the big question is if these 8/16 desktop parts are going to be 14++ or 10nm? Maybe for economic reasons they're waiting to get them on 10nm? If they can just get those electrons to behave!

Well we're looking at 2019 now for (presumably Ice Lake) 8/16 chips on 10nm. Seems like Coffee Lake refresh 8 cores were just a pipe dream.

 

[Hulk]

Unlike 15 or 20 years ago where I was updating every 8 months in order to more efficiently edit video, audio, and photos my 4770k is still fine even though I built this system a unbelievably long time ago (in tech time which is much like dog years)... 4 years! I can wait another year or two for my next upgrade.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Wow, 8700k all through 2018? Intel is making a mistaaaake.

 

[LTC8K6]

Wow, 8700k all through 2018? Intel is making a mistaaaake.

The chart doesn't say that, though.

Also, 9700K could be an improved 6C CFL chip.

 

[Dayman1225]

Wow, 8700k all through 2018? Intel is making a mistaaaake.

It is entirely possible Intel is hiding SKUs from this public roadmap. Though i'm not entirely sure how likely that is.

 

[DrMrLordX]

It is entirely possible Intel is hiding SKUs from this public roadmap. Though i'm not entirely sure how likely that is.

It's possible, but that isn't like them to hide SKUs.

 

[Mulrian]

And even then surely it would be a 8750k or variant rather than breaking into the 9000 series.

 

[LTC8K6]

Is Mark.Intel.Com a legitmate address?

Seems like it ought to be Ark? And it seems like an odd error?

 

[LightningZ71]

I wish Intel would do something like this with their product stack.
i7 - 8/16
i5 - 6/12
i3 - 4/8
Pentium - 2/4
Celeron - 2/2

And of course varying levels of cache, GPU, memory speeds, ...

It would make sense I think but from a marketing perspective 9 is bigger than 7 so the 8 cores will probably be i9.
Of course the big question is if these 8/16 desktop parts are going to be 14++ or 10nm? Maybe for economic reasons they're waiting to get them on 10nm? If they can just get those electrons to behave!

I would rather their stack look like:
i9 - 10+/20+
i7 - 8/16
i5 - 6/12
i3 - 4/8
Pentium (core and atom) 4/4
Celeron (core and atom) 2/4

For the sake of progress, we need the bottom end part to have at least 4 threads so that the industry can standardize on the basic platform paradigm of 4 available threads. Also, for the sake of sanity, the i7/i9 in this sack would be triple/quad channel to keep all those threads fed with bandwidth. It would make sense for Intel for the split to be there as their 6 core and below products are a different die from their 8+ core products.

 

[LTC8K6]

I would rather their stack look like:
i9 - 10+/20+
i7 - 8/16
i5 - 6/12
i3 - 4/8
Pentium (core and atom) 4/4
Celeron (core and atom) 2/4

For the sake of progress, we need the bottom end part to have at least 4 threads so that the industry can standardize on the basic platform paradigm of 4 available threads. Also, for the sake of sanity, the i7/i9 in this sack would be triple/quad channel to keep all those threads fed with bandwidth. It would make sense for Intel for the split to be there as their 6 core and below products are a different die from their 8+ core products.

I'm not buying all that ram.
Go to DDR6 or something to get the bandwidth.

 

[Arachnotronic]

It is entirely possible Intel is hiding SKUs from this public roadmap. Though i'm not entirely sure how likely that is.

This isn't a public roadmap

 

[moonbogg]

If no 8 core in 2018, Intel better hope Zen+ really sucks.

 

[Dayman1225]

This isn't a public roadmap

It was apparently revealed at an event, so some what public.

 

[coercitiv]

If no 8 core in 2018, Intel better hope Zen+ really sucks.

Think of the 8 core as a pressure valve. If enough pressure from AMD or 9000 series too late, release pressure valve. Schedule is dependent on outside factors hence should not be advertised from the start. Makes sense?