i7 not selling very well!!

[ajaidevsingh]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index....view&id=11816&Itemid=1


This is actually correct for most part but then again X58 series were never mainstream kinda sad about the whole DDR3 thing tough. In my view the simplest thing would be to bring out the LGA 1156 processor "i5" into the market. Hell i would pay some extra money to get hands on a 3GB DDR3 kit "6GB tooo expensive" but only if i can get the processor+M/b at a cheaper rate.

It is not fair of intel to make decisions for us like we can not afford the DDR3 ram so lets just delay the i5 till prices go down and force us to make a choice between C2Q's.

Sorry if i am being too hyper here but i was waiting for the i5 platform and also the Phenom II AM3 to launch so that i could go on and upgrade but this wait game is ohh so cruel...! Sig

 

[cusideabelincoln]

The current i7 still performs well in dual channel mode, so I would rather have 4GB running in dual channel than 3GB running in triple channel right now. You have a better path for upgrading to more RAM later and you don't have to spend the money on triple channel kits. Right now the price for 4GB of DDR3 RAM is about the price that 4GB of DDR2 RAM was a year ago.

 

[SunnyD]

English much? Your ramblings are painful.

I bet Intel is quite pleased with i7's sales. After all, it was NOT meant to be a mainstream part.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Yeah, just like they were forcing DDR3 to operate @ 1.65v for their chips. And seeing their max vcore and then recommending to keep the vdimm within .5v of the vcore; knowing DDR3 will work higher than 1.65 raises an eyebrow at Intel...

 

[PCTC2]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Yeah, just like they were forcing DDR3 to operate @ 1.65v for their chips. And seeing their max vcore and then recommending to keep the vdimm within .5v of the vcore; knowing DDR3 will work higher than 1.65 raises an eyebrow at Intel...

Well, it could very well be a design flaw in the power management of the IMC because anything too high will kill your i7.

Originally posted by: SunnyD
English much? Your ramblings are painful.

I bet Intel is quite pleased with i7's sales. After all, it was NOT meant to be a mainstream part.

Yeah. i5 will will be their mainstream parts to push out for sales. i7 is high-end/enthusiast. Notice how i7 operates only on the X58 and the i5 will operate on the mainstream P55 chipset. how much of intel's sales are ever from the X*8 chipset sales compared to their P*5 sales?

 

[GundamF91]

The fact is that economy is bad, and having fast computer is discretionary. For most people, they just want to surf the net and use MS Office. Even AMD XP and Intel P4 were more than enough for that.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I wonder if DDR3 prices will drop after AM3 gets going... having both major CPU manufacturers using the same memory might help the price come down. Just so long as DDR2 doesn't sky rocket before I get my additional 4GB...

 

[nerp]

Uhh, nothing is selling well.

 

[zenguy]

Define Top Seller?
That would likely be the Sub $100 processors.............

Pointless Article............

 

[alcoholbob]

It's a higher price bracket. It's not particularly optimized for games.

As far as memory goes, with the integrated memory controller, you're far better off overclocking the CPU rather than incremental increases in RAM speed.

 

[imported_Asianman]

I wonder which brand sells more cars, Honda or Acura. Of course the cheaper one is going to sell better. Besides, its an economic crisis.

 

[LokutusofBorg]

The relatively weak sales of i7 is completely due to the expensive motherboards, IMO. The current prices for a decent amount of DDR3 are prices people have been willingly paying for years. An i7 920 is cheaper than lots of other CPUs. The motherboards are just too damned expensive.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: LokutusofBorg
The relatively weak sales of i7 is completely due to the expensive motherboards, IMO. The current prices for a decent amount of DDR3 are prices people have been willingly paying for years. An i7 920 is cheaper than lots of other CPUs. The motherboards are just too damned expensive.

I agree. An i7-compatible MB starts at around $250 these days, no? Waaay to much. DDR3 prices are still not down near DDR2 levels either. AND the i7 CPU's themselves aren't exactly cheap either. I'll be sticking with my "old" Q6600 gaming box for quite some time.

*edit*
I found a Gigabyte EX58 on NE for $200. link

 

[dflynchimp]

high pricing and bad economy = low demand.

Computers may be a commodity, but high performance is a niche market.

 

[MarcVenice]

If i7 prices come down, intel is going to shoot themselfs in the foot regarding c2q sales. Same with introducing i5, so don't count on any price cuts anytime soon or i5 being released before schedule.

 

[poohbear]

i recall reading intel and amd dont even wanna push DD3 into mainstream for 2009 because of the slow economy, they feel its the bad time to do it as ppl simply wont care to adopt it. safer to stick w/ ddr2 and mainstream platforms.

 

[eternalone]

Thats right motherboards high, DDR 3 high, no one is willing to give that much up for not that great of a memory speed increase. Man but if that werent the case they would sell like Hotcakes or a Free Dennys Grand Slam that I wish I would have gotten. LOL.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I feel bad for those who are suffering because of the economy. But not ALL of us are effected like some. I feel real bad that the people on this forum seem to be hit the hardest by the economy. I recall paying $399 2x512 Bh5. $300 gor a 2.4gfz P4. $299 for IC7.Max
$500 pS. power and cooling. $200 lian li case. $299 R300.

I can build an X58 setup today thats 6x faster for $1300. Now thats if I keep and use some older components. But for $2000 TOday you get one fast PC. One that can only be challenged by another Intel product. Pricies will come down further. But there good right now. Most Americans I am happy to say haven't been as hard hit as the members here. So intel should do well with I7.

 

[boatillo]

Eh, I bought one Went from s939 to i7 920! But I agree, the main drawback in my decision to go with what I bought was the motherboard pricing. The DDR3 I can eat, I paid more than that for 2x512mb of DDR400 back when it was going strong - of course that was due to price fixing...

But yes, the motherboards are outlandish.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I feel bad for those who are suffering because of the economy. But not ALL of us are effected like some.

Don't feel too bad for us, we know where the un-effected live or more importantly we know where they are keeping their money and our government will be stopping by shortly to collect what is rightly all of ours to share

 

[dflynchimp]

$200 motherboards are no less outlandish than $1000 Core Extremes or the old AMD FX monikers or the $500 videocards. The performance gain versus cost increase over an only slightly slower model is very skewed, but the companies know that. They price things in a way that fit the customer demographic, EG most of us are smack in the middle with a few of the more well endowed willing to dish out extra for niche performance.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
I bet Intel is quite pleased with i7's sales. After all, it was NOT meant to be a mainstream part.

^

This.

i7 was never meant to be mainstream.

X series boards are never mainstream. When have you seen a X38 or a X48 board mainstream?

P series is mainstream and there is no i7 p series board.

Its the same thing with the i7.

We have more subjected tier system now, so a set definition of class in computers.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
If you want to get technical, i bet you gainestown (i7 on server side) will kill all other cpu sales when released.

That would require Intel to have more supply/inventory of Nehalem Xeon than they have of Harpertown at that time...which I doubt would be the case.

Rather I suspect Intel will manage the intro prices on gainestown precisely as needed to continue moving volumes of Harpertown out the door until inventory levels are reduced.

Not too unlike the C2Q vs. i7 situation.

 

[edplayer]

Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
It is not fair of intel to make decisions for us like we can not afford the DDR3 ram so lets just delay the i5 till prices go down and force us to make a choice between C2Q's.

when you are about to purchase paper to wipe your butt, does Charmin decide which paper you will buy or do you?

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: edplayer

Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
It is not fair of intel to make decisions for us like we can not afford the DDR3 ram so lets just delay the i5 till prices go down and force us to make a choice between C2Q's.

when you are about to purchase paper to wipe your butt, does Charmin decide which paper you will buy or do you?

Needlessly crass, minus one point edplayer.

Superbly on-point and cleverly delivered, plus five-points edplayer.

Winner, edplayer with 4 pts. :laugh: