IB-EP E5 released.

crazymonkeyzero

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How would a single XeonE5 2697 v2 stack up against the likes of a 3930k in terms of raw computational power? I was potentially thinking of convincing my PI to purchase either the 12 core, or the 10 core version to speed up our mathematical computations in quantum chemistry. We currently like the X79 platform as we need lots of memory and a 3930k is fast, however, these seem like a good consideration. Would it be at least a 60% improvement? (I know a 2x improvement is unlikely) However, this seems like more than just an incremental improvement by intel to me.
 
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crashtech

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Assuming the 3930K is running at stock, improvement approaching 60% seems likely, but not much in excess of that, imo.
 

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Core i7 3930K - 6C/12T, 12 MB Cache L3, 3.2-3.8 GHz, 130W TDP
Xeon E5 2697W V2 - 12C/24T, 30 MB Cache L3, 2.7-3.5 GHz, 130W TDP

For raw horsepower, we could say that 6 * 3.2 = 19.2 and that 12 * 2.7 = 32.4. Not twice, but its a 70% improvement. If you don't mind spending 2500 U$D or so on it.

Ivy Bridge-E is impressive. Too bad that the vast majority of enthusiasts can't harvest its power, much less actually have the funds to get one (Or better, two).
 

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VR-Zone said:
So, firstly, there is the large 12-core die with 30 MB L3, where three 4-core columns share two sections of L3, 20 + 10 MB, across three ring buses. In our first review, the Xeon E5-2697v2 2.7 GHz is the top bin part representing this die. You’d think this monster drinks power like a sweaty runner after a marathon? Well, guess what, measured at the power supply, the whole dual-CPU 24-core system with 128 GB DDR3-1866 RAM and enterprise SSD, plus a high end AMD7990 GPU, Consumed less power than the brand new 4-dualcore AMD-9590 single socket system with 8x less memory and similar graphics, for a roughly ~4x system level performance gain!

http://vr-zone.com/articles/ivy-bridge-ep-xeon-e5-gets-2013-refresh/56672.html#ixzz2fXk9Sah9
 
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aigomorla

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12 core!

OH PLEASE SURVIVE my current system until then... PLZ...
 

DigDog

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any idea what this will cost? my first google came up with $2700 but that's probably not it.

edit, nm, it's $2600 MSRP at Intel. and ofc you want two of them.

the board alone is $450+
 
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SammichPG

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How would a single XeonE5 2697 v2 stack up against the likes of a 3930k in terms of raw computational power? I was potentially thinking of convincing my PI to purchase either the 12 core, or the 10 core version to speed up our mathematical computations in quantum chemistry. We currently like the X79 platform as we need lots of memory and a 3930k is fast, however, these seem like a good consideration. Would it be at least a 60% improvement? (I know a 2x improvement is unlikely) However, this seems like more than just an incremental improvement by intel to me.

Wouldn't you get better performance with a cluster of cheaper machines? With the money of that 12core cpu plus the platform you could buy many more cores.
 

ShintaiDK

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Wouldn't you get better performance with a cluster of cheaper machines? With the money of that 12core cpu plus the platform you could buy many more cores.

A "cheap" cluster quickly get rather expensive hardware, complexity, scaling and TCO wise. Plus you lack RSA feastures. But again, the real killer is simply software licensing.
 

SammichPG

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A "cheap" cluster quickly get rather expensive hardware, complexity, scaling and TCO wise. Plus you lack RSA feastures. But again, the real killer is simply software licensing.

Software licensing is a non issue if you run linux and write your own code.
The only expensive hardware needed for a small cluster is high bandwidth interconnect hardware if gigabit isn't enough for your workload.

It depends on your software and the right balancing between the number of nodes and the power of each node vs the cost.

I may be wrong but quantum chemistry (protein binding simulations perhaps?) looks like the kind of stupidly parallel problem that benefits from more cores, but may be I/O intensive (calculating the energy levels of hundreds of atoms that interact with each other might be).

I just said it's an option (renting cloud clusters is another).
 
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