IBM 180GXP

[Intelman07]

I want to know if anyone has tried them. I got a 60GXP. Besides their sucky 75GXP I wanna know how these drives rate. The new 180GXP's have 8MB of cache vs the 2MB that the older ones have so that should help am I right?

 

[MrGrim]

Why would you want to buy an IBM hard drive? There are plenty of decent hard drive manufactures out there, Matrox, Seagate, Western Digital, etc.

 

[sechs]

Why get decent when you can get the best?

 

[ed21x]

they're suppose to be much more reliable, and performing at the top of the charts now that IBM has switched out from the glass platters used in the 60/75 deskstar series.

personally, my 60gxp has yet to give me any problems for a whole year.

 

[sechs]

Actually, the 120GXP still uses glass platters....

I have two IBM drives with bary a problem. The fact that they continue to have a 3 year warranty should say something.

 

[cheeta05r]

my 60gxp has yet to give me any problems for a whole year.

My IBM didn't give me any problems, it just died one day.

 

[wicktron]

No problems with a 120GXP here. Been running strong for 9 months now. There are other IBM drives used in the house, not by myself, but they are running too (Even the infamous 75GXP).

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: sechs
Why get decent when you can get the best?

That's exactly why you shouldnt get am IBM,If you want the best buy something other than IBM.

 

[Intelman07]

With all do respect why do you guys not like IBM? Personally it is the best hard drive I had. (also my first 7200RPM hard drive)

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: Intelman07
With all do respect why do you guys not like IBM? Personally it is the best hard drive I had. (also my first 7200RPM hard drive)

Link

 

[sechs]

IBM hard drives are no less reliable than the hard drives of any other manufacturer.

Some people have gotten burned with bad drives. I can't expect them to like that manufacturer.

That doesn't mean that you shouldn't.

 

[Sunner]

The 75GXP series was no doubt much more unreliable than other drives at the time.

But IMO it's just stupid to hold it against them even today, several years, and several series after.
From what I've seen, both on boards and in terms of RMA numbers from the store I buy most of my stuff from, the 120GXP series is excellent in terms of reliability, and I wouldn't hesitate for a second to get one.

A long time ago WD Caviars were probably just about the worst drives you could get your hands on, but yet everyone loves them today, and for a good reason, companies can shape up you know.
Not too long ago Compaq used lots and lots of properiarity parts, while Dell used standard ATX mobo's, today Compaq uses standard ATX mobo's while Dell uses properiarity power connectors.

Why don't we all just face the fact that the 75GXP series is not representative of every IBM drive out there?

 

[Andros]

Most manufacturers seem to have bad phases, and right now seems to be IBM's. I remember many years ago I had 3 WD drives fail on me in a row in fairly quick succession, but I now use a WD800JB as I know it to be a very reliable drive. I did have an IBM 120GXP a month ago and it's bearings went after just 1 week. Having to sell off their HD division can't have helped IBM much...

 

[ahsia]

Look, there is a reason why all the HD manufacturers are all going to a 1 year warranty. Hard drive eventually will go bad, some sooner, some later. From what I understand, the 180GXP is excellent.

 

[DaFinn]

Hmm,

I've had bunch of IBM drives, no problem! Bunch of Maxtors, no problem! Some WDs and Quantums, no problem.

Bunch of Seagates, of which 3 out of 4 have died on me within a year! Never buying a Seagate again!!! The problems were with different series of drives, so from my experience I can conclude that Seagate is POS!!!

Just because a manufacturer has 1 bad series of drives, DOESN'T mean all their series are bad! Just stay away from the 75 series of drives and you are OK!

-DaFinn

 

[John]

Has anyone tested one of these yet?

 

[Howard]

Personally, I don't understand why warranties are now only 1 year. Are they expecting the hard drives to die in 400 days?

Good thing I picked up one of the last WD800s with a 3 year warranty.

 

[Maggotry]

Originally posted by: Sunner
The 75GXP series was no doubt much more unreliable than other drives at the time.

But IMO it's just stupid to hold it against them even today, several years, and several series after.
From what I've seen, both on boards and in terms of RMA numbers from the store I buy most of my stuff from, the 120GXP series is excellent in terms of reliability, and I wouldn't hesitate for a second to get one.

A long time ago WD Caviars were probably just about the worst drives you could get your hands on, but yet everyone loves them today, and for a good reason, companies can shape up you know.
Not too long ago Compaq used lots and lots of properiarity parts, while Dell used standard ATX mobo's, today Compaq uses standard ATX mobo's while Dell uses properiarity power connectors.

Why don't we all just face the fact that the 75GXP series is not representative of every IBM drive out there?

I agree with you. I've got 2 75GXP's. Been running 24x7 for over 1.5yrs flawlessly. I have no problem at all buying or recommending IBM drives.

 

[sechs]

Originally posted by: Howard
Personally, I don't understand why warranties are now only 1 year. Are they expecting the hard drives to die in 400 days?

Manufacturers rate the consumer level drives for about eight hours of use per day. People are obviously running their machines longer than that; some 24x7. Now, the drives are breaking more, and they're losing money. They save money by not warranting the drive to last more than a year at those "harsher" conditions. They're not making the drives any differently, they're just admiting that they aren't designed for what some people use them for.

That said, IBM has a three or five year warranty on all of its drives -- even the 75GXPs still out there. I think that says a lot.

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by: sechs

Originally posted by: Howard
Personally, I don't understand why warranties are now only 1 year. Are they expecting the hard drives to die in 400 days?

Manufacturers rate the consumer level drives for about eight hours of use per day. People are obviously running their machines longer than that; some 24x7. Now, the drives are breaking more, and they're losing money. They save money by not warranting the drive to last more than a year at those "harsher" conditions. They're not making the drives any differently, they're just admiting that they aren't designed for what some people use them for.

That said, IBM has a three or five year warranty on all of its drives -- even the 75GXPs still out there. I think that says a lot.

Newegg has the 180GXP's in stock, and according to them the 2MB version carries a 1 year warranty while the 8MB has a 3 year.

 

[John]

Originally posted by: Pariah

Originally posted by: sechs

Originally posted by: Howard
Personally, I don't understand why warranties are now only 1 year. Are they expecting the hard drives to die in 400 days?

Manufacturers rate the consumer level drives for about eight hours of use per day. People are obviously running their machines longer than that; some 24x7. Now, the drives are breaking more, and they're losing money. They save money by not warranting the drive to last more than a year at those "harsher" conditions. They're not making the drives any differently, they're just admiting that they aren't designed for what some people use them for.

That said, IBM has a three or five year warranty on all of its drives -- even the 75GXPs still out there. I think that says a lot.

Newegg has the 180GXP's in stock, and according to them the 2MB version carries a 1 year warranty while the 8MB has a 3 year.

Yes, they are following WD by offering the 3yr warranty on SE/8MB drives which is a good thing.

 

[aka1nas]

I thought that IBM was no longer producing drives?

 

[jeffrey]

I thought that IBM was no longer producing drives?

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