IBM DeskStar 75GXP or Quantum AS???

[j@cko]

WHICH ONE??????????????????????????????????????

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Who's still in business???? :Q

 

[Pariah]

Quantum didn't go out of business, they got bought out. It was more of a merger than anything else. I would go with a Maxtor DM 60+ over both those drives.

 

[AndyHui]

I personally prefer the Quantum AS....it outperforms the IBM drive in some areas, but is slower in others. Have a look at Storage Review.

 

[LXi]

The AS is just a bit slower than the DM+60, if you can find a good deal, go for it. My top choice is still DM+60 though.

 

[Electricice]

i have the ibm accuactly 2 and they are working great im running both at ata 100 and they seem to fly so IBM has my vote

 

[amdskip]

IBM works great for me!

 

[GT1999]

I had a Maxtor 10GB 7200RPM UDMA/33 drive and switched to a IBM 45GB 75GXP, and this thing rocks!

 

[gittyup]

I personally prefer the IBM drives. My 2 cents...

 

[Leo V]

UPDATE: I'm an idiot. I was referring to the Quantum LM the whole time. The AS is a totally different drive!!!! If you're getting Quantum, the LM is the one to consider.

I have the 30GB version of both drives right now. They currently both hold the IDE speed crown. There is little noticeable performance difference, but I'd say Quantum wins seektime-dependent applications (program loading times, databases, etc) and IBM wins transfer rate-dependent ones. Check Storagereview.com's database.

Apart from speed, the IBM is definitely quieter; the Quantum produces a whine. With both disks inside a SilentDrive enclosure, only the 75GXP's spinning noise is virtually eliminated. Seeks are noticeable on both (but Quantum [edit:]LM's are the best of any IDE disk), however IBM's acoustic software allows silencing seeks at the expense of seek times. Heat isn't a problem for either disk, since both work fine inside a SilentDrive.

If you want SCSI-like performance and don't worry about noise, get the Quantum LM 30GB. It's unreasonably cheap and has ~7.2ms measured seek times, and the best IDE workstation/server scores on Storagereview. If you rather prefer quiet operation and fast sequential transfer rates, the 75GXP is the winner. I'm confident in the quality of both.

 

[Pariah]

I think you're talking about the wrong drive Leo. Quantum used to be the king of IDE seek time wise. But the AS was a huge disappointment and no where near its predecessors. The AS is spec'd at 8.5ms seek time (no where near 7.2) and it benchmarked even slower than that. Quantum's decision to build the AS from the ground up and not go with a SCSI mechanism to start with was a huge mistake. Your choice should be between the Maxtor and the IBM if you are actually looking to compare 2 drives.

 

[Leo V]

Oh no!!!!! You're right, it's the Quantum LM I was yakking about.... I'm leaving to get my head checked...

My doctor thanks you for letting me know

 

[PCResources]

<< I had a Maxtor 10GB 7200RPM UDMA/33 drive and switched to a IBM 45GB 75GXP, and this thing rocks! >>



And i had an OLD 10GB 7200RPM UDMA/33 drive and switched to a NEW Maxtor drive, and that rocks!

You really cannot compare an old drive to a new one...

Maxtor drives are very reliable these days, and cheap, and fast...

The merger between Quantum and Maxtor has made some people dizzy... now they recommend Quantum but NOT Maxtor, even though the disks are basically the same... go figure...

My recommendation would be the AS drive (of your named choices, otherwise the DM 60 is a great GREAT!! drive), as i have had too many problems, and too many customers with problems with the 75GXP...

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[Quickfingerz]

for MOST people the Quantum drive is the fastest available ATA drive you can get. It's access time is superb. Most users need a fast access time. for transferring of large files the IBM is slightly faster.
The Quantum LM is annoyingly loud. If you have anything that will reduce it's sound or hide the sound, you'll be fine.

 

[Liquidcool]

Go IBM... Quantom is a good unit also but most prefer the IBM. I have 4 of them and they all rule..

 

[Leo V]

Just remember guys, Quantum LM is the fast one. The newer AS is slower than both LM and 75GXP.

 

[oldfart]

I have a 75GXP and a Quantum LM. They are both very fast. Only thing is the Quantum is LOUD!!!. Very loud. Sounds like a popcorn popper. I haven't heard the AS, but I understand its quieter.

 

[KevinH]

Before making the jump, go to www.storagereview.com and head over to their forums sections and do a search for the 75gxp. A LOT of people are coming to the conclusion that there is a bad batch of those drives on the market (something about a mitsubishi chip vs ibm chip, started getting too technical so i bowed out). Anyways those guys are the gurus on this sorta stuff. I'm definitely not against the 75gxp since I've been debating it myself but a little knowledge may do you good.

kev

 

[Dameon]

Leo, I'd have to disagree... my LM has been nothing but hell to deal with. See
this post

 

[LXi]

Everyone of you are making the Fireball Plus AS sound like a piece of sh1t, which is completely untrue. Its measured 9.0ms is slower than spec, it is certainly a disappointment, but its nowhere near to deserve a POS award. It is, after all, faster than Seagate's 11.2ms, faster than Western Digital's 9.7ms, and faster than IBM 75GXP 75GB's 9.1ms, only 0.1ms behind the fastest 20GB platter DM+60. If you can find a good deal, go for it, the 40GB version went for $115 last month. AS is very quiet as well, not nearly as loud as the LM.

 

[mschell]

I've got to agree with LXi, the Quantum AS seems to be a great drive. I tried one, copying the contents from the IBM 75GXP that I was running as the primary boot drive. There is no noticeable performance difference between the two, the only thing that lets me know I'm running of the Quantum is a slightly louder seek noise.
About Storage Reviews benchmarks,
They tested the 60G model. One problem with the new 20G platter drives is the heads are slightly heavier, i guess to work with the higher aural densities. Bigger drives equal more platters which means more heads which means slower access times. The theory that bigger equals slower would have to be proven by benching both the 20G and the 60G together, I don't have the benchmark utilities that SR has but my 20G Quantum seems every bit as fast as my 20G IBM

 

[m8ulook]

Go Big Blue! IBM! I have an IBM Deskstar Drive and it's the fastest and quietest drive I've ever had! IBM has my vote.

 

[j@cko]

well, the conculsion seemes like to be the IBM is the best choice, Quantum and Maxtor are second, I guess I will go with IBM.

 

[Leo V]

&quot;The theory that bigger equals slower would have to be proven by benching both the 20G and the 60G together&quot;

Look for Storagereview.com's comparison between IBM's 45GB and 75GB versions of the 75GXP, in their database. The 3-platter 45gigabyter indeed outperforms the 75GB one, and uses less power. This is one reason I chose the 2-platter 30GB version for my workstation.

 

[Planktune]

IBM is fast and quiet. however the GXP's supposedly require a soltek ATA 100 driver to function properly on boards with VT686B south bridge
I have 3 GXPs and am waiting to see if the soltek driver is indeed a fix