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Along with 2 likes.Someone might throw a grenade at you.
Along with 2 likes.Someone might throw a grenade at you.
You do know that there's a process for someone to go back to Canada right? Border agents can't just escort them back across? Of course you did. You're obviously extraordinarily intelligent.
It's been reported that the Canadian government has refused them reentry. In the case of the idiot jogger that everyone keeps bringing up it took the CA .gov more than a week to even agree to check if she was eligible to return.
Says Canada refused them reentry. Seems odd. I feel like I am still missing important pieces of this story, regarding exactly how our two countries have handled and discussed this matter.
I fully acknowledge that no one has to accept this as my comments are just some guy on the internet and I can't provide sources at this time, and also I'm not making any excuses about how they may have been treated, but everyone should withhold judgement on them being arrested and held. There are some major details left out of their story.
I will withhold judgment on if they should be held, but the conditions in which they are being held are unacceptable. We are a large rich nation. We can treat people better than this. There is simply no reason for this other than a lack of empathy. We must do better.
I don't "open borders" mean what you think it does.Don’t worry, there are plenty of Americans denouncing open borders who don’t realize we’ve had open borders forever.
I don't "open borders" mean what you think it does.
The reason is $$$. These private prisons get $750/person/day, so they maximize profits by giving them bare minimum (or no) sanitation supplies or beds.
Please enlighten me. Whether you consider immigrants arriving by the boatload at Ellis Island or the literally 5,500 miles of open border between the US and Canada (+ large sections of US/Mexico border) we’ve always had open borders. It’s not some sort of Democrat invention.
I can remember repeatedly crossing into Canada with my parents without any passport or visa and only the very most perfunctory of a check . . . even more perfunctory to the one you (used?) to get crossing into California from Nevada or Arizona by car!open borders require no passports, check, visa, ect
I can remember repeatedly crossing into Canada with my parents without any passport or visa and only the very most perfunctory of a check . . . even more perfunctory to the one you (used?) to get crossing into California from Nevada or Arizona by car!
open borders require no passports, check, visa, ect
try walking into mexico without being checked
I'm aware. I was responding to the post that stated the relatively open American borders were "not some sort of Democrat invetion."its not like that anymore
Otoh, as British citizens, if they were really trying to enter America, they could have flown in hassle free and visa free directly from GB.British family in Canada who say wrong turn led to border crossing mistake previously denied entry to US: CBP
Members of a British family who claim a wrong turn led them to accidentally cross the Canadian border into the U.S. earlier this month were previously denied authorization to enter America, border officials said.www.foxnews.com
s it drove on Avenue 0 in Canada before it "turned south and entered the U.S. illegally, by slowly and deliberately driving through a ditch onto Boundary Road in Lyndon, Washington."
Immigration officials said that, while the family members were being processed, records revealed two adults in the group had been "previously denied travel authorization to come to the United States."
CBP told Fox News that "attempts were made to return the individuals to Canada, however, Canada refused to allow their return."
Otoh, as British citizens, if they were really trying to enter America, they could have flown in hassle free and visa free directly from GB.
So, yeah, compelling contradictory evidence. I'd like to see the tape of these folks entering before I totally believe the immigration officials, and I'd like to hear from Canadian officials as to why they were not allowed to return, if indeed that was exactly the case . .. whereas the FACT that they had NO REASON to enter the US illegally is just that . . . an indisputable FACT.
Well, their lawyer said they swerved into the ditch to avoid an animal. But, yes, more into is definitely needed.i just looke at ave 0 and boundary roads on google maps
the are not connected. there is a ditch between them.
the average person would not cross
something smells fishy
Not quite. The follow up story says that two of their party were denied through ESTA. While it's true you don't need a visa to visit here from the UK you do need to obtain authorization through ESTA.whereas the FACT that they had NO REASON to enter the US illegally is just that . . . an indisputable FACT.
Well, their lawyer said they swerved into the ditch to avoid an animal. But, yes, more into is definitely needed.
Tell me, though, since you seem invested in this story. If the story of how they and their children have been treated by ICE, or even if only 80% of it is true, what is your stance on ICE's treatment of them?
The ditch is not a grass median. The idea that you could swerve to miss an animal on 0 ave and end up on boundary road without knowing it is frankly absurd.
They were all denied an ESTA for a reason.
However, even if they are terrorists the alleged holding conditions are inexcusable.
I posted a picture earlier in this thread that shows a part of the grass strip where it appears quite plausible that a car could go from one road to the other.