ICE dumping thousands of illegal kids in Arizona. abandoned without food and water

OutHouse

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wtf? so shipping thousands of illegals from the El Paso area because that area is full and cant take any more to the bus station in pheonix is Obams immigration plan?

http://rt.com/usa/164548-us-arizona-obama-illegals/

Arizona is scrambling to cope with over 1,000 children caught crossing the border illegally in Texas. As outrage mounts, Homeland Security is sending mattresses and portable toilets. But even after release, the migrants’ woes are far from over.

In what appears to be a serious lack of communication on the part of the US federal government, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer expressed outrage after she learned Friday that 432 unaccompanied illegal children – caught while attempting to cross the US border into Texas – were transported to a holding facility in Nogales.

"I am disturbed and outraged that President Obama's administration continues to implement this dangerous and inhumane policy," Brewer said in a written statement.

"Not only does the federal government have no plan to stop this disgraceful policy, it also has no plan to deal with the endless waves of illegal aliens once they are released here."

Another 700 children were scheduled to be transported from Texas to the Arizona facility over the weekend. Following their brief holdover, the detainees – many of them women, children and unaccompanied juveniles – are .
 

Newell Steamer

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Obama killed Osama; no he didn't,.. it was the Navy Seals, asshole.

Obama dumped thousands of illegal kids in Arizona; yes, he personally picked up all these children and drove them into Arizona,.. on purpose,.. just because.
 

OutHouse

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Obama killed Osama; no he didn't,.. it was the Navy Seals, asshole.

Obama dumped thousands of illegal kids in Arizona; yes, he personally picked up all these children and drove them into Arizona,.. on purpose,.. just because.

STFU Donnie.
 

ivwshane

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Wait are mad because these illegals are being caught? Or are you mad because they are catching so many? Or are you mad because we don't have anywhere to put all these caught illegals?

What exactly should we be doing? Put them on a bus? A plane? Or are you mad because we aren't giving them shelter or free food?

It's hard to tell what your outrage is, it changes so often. I guess that's the problem with being the boy who cried wolf...now you just look like an asshole flailing your arms
 

cabri

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He is encouraging them to come illegally with implies promises of future legal status.

A new concept of the anchor baby. :thumbsdown:

Rather then sending them back ("cruelty"), he keeps them until the political climate feels sorry for them and releases them with false legal paperwork (ignoring the law).
 

ivwshane

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He is encouraging them to come illegally with implies promises of future legal status.

A new concept of the anchor baby. :thumbsdown:

Yep! The good old "catch and release" scam! Catch the illegals and hold them until congress passes an immigration bill and then release them!! I don't see any flaws in that plan!


/s
 

boomerang

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Several things come to mind with this story. If we had the press of old, we might actually know what transpired that resulted in El Salvador and Honduras newspapers to carry stories encouraging residents to send their children to the U.S. while reporting that they will not be turned away. How did this come about, and why is our government not taking steps to discourage the reporting? Their silence is essentially condoning the behavior.

Honduras and El Salvador are a long ways away from the states. What is the means of passage of these children? The path through Mexico is a long one and entails traveling through other nations. This almost seems like a coordinated effort. That's a lot of kids to show up over a very short period of time. Once again, a robust press would actually be asking these questions and investigating. Instead, crickets.

I smell another scandal in the air.
 
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boomerang

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We should be dumping them back across the border in Mexico.
But they came in by way of Mexico but are not of Mexican origin. Right now, the feds are flying them to locations and dumping them. Putting the burden on those respective states. Why not fly them back to their home countries? Surely the governments of their home nations will welcome them back and ensure their safe return to their families. It seems like the neighborly thing to do to return them from whence they came.
 

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Several things come to mind with this story. If we had the press of old, we might actually know what transpired that resulted in El Salvador and Honduras newspapers to carry stories encouraging residents to send their children to the U.S. while reporting that they will not be turned away. How did this come about, and why is our government not taking steps to discourage the reporting? Their silence is essentially condoning the behavior.

Honduras and El Salvador are a long ways away from the states. What is the means of passage of these children? The path through Mexico is a long one and entails traveling through other nations. This almost seems like a coordinated effort. That's a lot of kids to show up over a very short period of time. Once again, a robust press would actually be asking these questions and investigating. Instead, crickets.

I smell another scandal in the air.

From what I've heard a lot of them stayed in Mexico as well.
 

nehalem256

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But they came in by way of Mexico but are not of Mexican origin. Right now, the feds are flying them to locations and dumping them. Putting the burden on those respective states. Why not fly them back to their home countries? Surely the governments of their home nations will welcome them back and ensure their safe return to their families. It seems like the neighborly thing to do to return them from whence they came.

If they were most recently from Mexico return them there. If they are illegally in Mexico then Mexico is free to deport them to their country of origin further south.
 

chucky2

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There is a town across the border. Call up Mexican consulate, tell them at 9 AM local tomorrow we will be putting the children over the border where they came from. (Our) (immediate) problem solved.
 

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Central America Newspapers Tout Open US Door for Illegal Minors
Newspapers in El Salvador and Honduras are promoting policies by the Obama administration that defer deportation to minors brought to the United States as children by their parents — known as "Dreamers" — and those that are housing illegal children at military bases in the South and West.

"Almost all agree that a child who crossed the border illegally with their parents, or in search of a father or a better life, was not making an adult choice to break our laws, and should be treated differently than adult violators of the law," Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson is quoted in a story about a new two-year extension of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Act published by Diario El Mundo in El Salvador.

Signed by President Barack Obama in 2012, the law grants temporary legal status to many young illegal immigrants, ending the threat of deportation for at least two years...

"During their stay, in addition to accommodations and food, children receive English classes, play sports and participate in targeted programs while immigration authorities contact their families," the La Prensa report says.

The Obama administration estimates that 60,000 children under 18 will enter the U.S. illegally alone this year. It's expected to grow to nearly 130,000 next year.

Another foreign policy victory for the Obama Administration!

Uno
 

boomerang

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From the story:



So dump 10-year-olds in the middle of nowhere to fend for themselves. Yeah, that's a totally rational policy.
It's rather sad that you would interpret what he said so literally. Did you have visions of these children being booted from moving vehicles or something?
 
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shira

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It's rather sad that you would interpret what he said so literally. Did you have visions of these children being booted from moving vehicles or something?

Oh, so the idea of children being driven somewhere and "gently abandoned to fend for themselves" is NOT a problem? They have to be thrown from a moving vehicle to reach your threshold of outrage?
 

unokitty

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Newsmax! The site where righties go when they need to be told what to know!/QUOTE]

Here in Politics and News we already know that Obama had nothing to do with this. Most likely, he didn't know anything about it.

Here, its clear that if you don't embrace Obama, you hate kids and their mothers. Besides that you are a flaming racist, undoubtedly funded by the Koch bros.

You just wait, as soon as Obama is done fixing the climate and social inequality, he might check into this.

Assuming that is, he sees it on TV.

LOL

Uno
 
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nehalem256

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So dump 10-year-olds in the middle of nowhere to fend for themselves. Yeah, that's a totally rational policy.

Well if they were able to trek all the way across Mexico by themselves it would seem they have proven to be more self reliant than many American adults.
 

cabri

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So dump 10-year-olds in the middle of nowhere to fend for themselves. Yeah, that's a totally rational policy.

The kids were astute enough to make it on their "own" without adult supervision. If you do not want to burden Mexico with foreigners, then work with Mexico to send them back along the trail or ship direct to their home country and let those authorities worry about it.

Treat the children as diplomatic cargo if needed to get them in country.
However, just telling the original country to take them back or loose aid funding will work.

If the government can bus/fly them to AZ as a slap in the face to AZ pushback on immigration, they can set up a weekly delivery schedule of 200 people a flight to the three or four countries that are encouraging the migration.

Once the word gets out that the US will not tolerate this, it will stop.
 

boomerang

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Oh, so the idea of children being driven somewhere and "gently abandoned to fend for themselves" is NOT a problem? They have to be thrown from a moving vehicle to reach your threshold of outrage?
What exactly is wrong with you? If you don't know, consider finding out.
 

MongGrel

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Not even getting involved in this one.

What a mess.

Other than that old over population thing they spoke of decades ago really starting to kick in.
 
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michal1980

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Yep! The good old "catch and release" scam! Catch the illegals and hold them until congress passes an immigration bill and then release them!! I don't see any flaws in that plan!


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are you really this stupid?

Because that's what the government is doing.

Catching them. Then releasing them in public, giving them a ticket to show up to court some time later.
 
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