ICE dumping thousands of illegal kids in Arizona. abandoned without food and water

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compuwiz1

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its closer to 4 billion.

far cheaper to send them all back, but that doesn't help his no boarder agenda.

How much money are the taxpayers going to have to pay to support all these unauthorized people who have poured into our country? This president is at best incompetent and at worst a law breaking ideologue. All the money he wants to spend aiding and abetting illegal immigration could be spent to secure the border. I'd feed these people, clean them up, then send them back. Then I would deploy troops to the border, enough troops to catch literally every illegal crosser, while a permanent solution is being constructed. Screw amnesty until we first fix the problem of border security.

Right now we have a constitutional, national security and humanitarian crisis. It's only a matter of time before we end up fighting terrorists who have crossed the southern border. The liberals will never get it until it's too late and our country is under siege by a bunch of people who should have never been let in to begin with. Its gonna happen, if we don't get our shit in order. I hope this is the final issue that causes the democrats to lose in the mid terms. Shame on them and their ideology. This is an everyone problem, not a partisan one! Time to put country before politics.
 

nehalem256

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We should send the bill for taking care of other nation's citizens to their country of origin.

If they cannot pay perhaps they own assets the US government could seize.
 

unokitty

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Deportation data won't dispel rumors drawing migrant minors to U.S.

President Obama and his aides have repeatedly sought to dispel the rumors driving thousands of children and teens from Central America to cross the U.S. border each month with the expectation they will be given a permiso and allowed to stay.

But under the Obama administration, those reports have proved increasingly true.

The number of immigrants under 18 who were deported or turned away at ports of entry fell from 8,143 in 2008, the last year of the George W. Bush administration, to 1,669 last year, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement data released under a Freedom of Information Act request.

The previously unavailable deportation data are likely to fuel the political debate over whether Obama administration policies are partly responsible for the 52,000 children and teens who have surrendered to or been caught by Border Patrol agents since last October, spurring fresh concerns about U.S. border security and immigration law.

Obama administration officials deny that lenient policies — including a 2012 program that allowed immigrants who had entered the country illegally as minors before June 2007 to apply for deportation deferrals — have encouraged the sudden surge.
Each year that Obama has held office, the number of deported child immigrants declined. Last year, 1,669 were deported. This year, since October 52,000 have arrived.

At the current rate, it would take 53,000/1669 or 31+ years to deport just the ones that have arrived since October.

Obama's solution is to grant him several billion more dollars.

Does anyone believe Obama has the political will to solve this?

If yo do, you probably also believe that you can keep your insurance. And that Obama is going to close Gitmo any day now...


Uno
 
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ivwshane

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michal1980

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Careful! Your hatred for Americas rule of law is showing!

Or is this you being completely ignorant again about our government and the law?

your king chooses which laws to follow. Why should I be any different?

Or are there different laws for pigs?
 

ivwshane

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your king chooses which laws to follow. Why should I be any different?

Or are there different laws for pigs?

Once again, your failure to understand how our government works ends up making you look like an idiot.

The president is in charge of carrying out the laws and he is allowed to do so with the resources that he is given, he is given the power of priority. If you want him to follow the law down to a T, either he needs the resources to do so or you have to write better, more precise laws.

Nothing Obama has done has been outside of his power, which is why you have bhoener pretending to sue him and zero action on the impeachment front. Your handlers know this and they know how utterly fucking stupid you are which is why you repeatedly quote talking point they relay to you and it's how they are able to keep stringing you along...you are an idiot.


I'm glad you acknowledge your hatred of American law, even if you have to justify it by making shit up. The first step in solving your stupidity is to admit you have a problem
 
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shortylickens

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Once again, your failure to understand how our government works ends up making you look like an idiot.

The president is in charge of carrying out the laws and he is allowed to do so with the resources that he is given, he is given the power of priority. If you want him to follow the law down to a T, either he needs the resources to do so or you have to write better, more precise laws.

Nothing Obama has done has been outside of his power, which is why you have bhoener pretending to sue him and zero action on the impeachment front. Your handlers know this and they know how utterly fucking stupid you are which is why you repeatedly quote talking point they relay to you and it's how they are able to keep stringing you along...you are an idiot.


I'm glad you acknowledge your hatred of American law, even if you have to justify it by making shit up. The first step in solving your stupidity is to admit you have a problem


 

ivwshane

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I await his impeachment then, and I'm sure you will be waiting too, pestering your congressman to bring up the charges and he will feed you some BS with which you will lap up like the braindead idiot you are.

You got a picture for that?
 

emperus

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I await his impeachment then, and I'm sure you will be waiting too, pestering your congressman to bring up the charges and he will feed you some BS with which you will lap up like the braindead idiot you are.

You got a picture for that?

What's funny is that people in this thread are saying Obama is an imperial president and chastising for not following the laws then on the other hand lambasting him for not doing enough in this situation.

You guys do know that the reason the kids can't be deported is because of a law that.. wait for it.. Bush signed that Obama is following. Do you want him to ignore the law and deport these kids anyhow?
 

boomerang

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What's funny is that people in this thread are saying Obama is an imperial president and chastising for not following the laws then on the other hand lambasting him for not doing enough in this situation.

You guys do know that the reason the kids can't be deported is because of a law that.. wait for it.. Bush signed that Obama is following. Do you want him to ignore the law and deport these kids anyhow?
Quite the coincidence that the Obama administration was soliciting bids from vendors for the transportation of 65,000 illegal immigrant children back in January. Yes, the law will not allow for deportations without some process for children that the regime solicited to come here - niiice. I'm not surprised that you're defending the actions of this administration to intentionally undermine a border already far from secured as well as burden the nation with billions of dollars of costs for this intentional violation of immigration law.

When given a choice between beer, billiards and the border, Obama chose beer and billiards. Viva la revolucion!
 

unokitty

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What's funny is that people in this thread are saying Obama is an imperial president...

You guys do know that the reason the kids can't be deported is because of a law that.. wait for it.. Bush signed that Obama is following. Do you want him to ignore the law and deport these kids anyhow?

Your welcome to think that its funny. But some of the kids that Obama has attracted are dying in the desert. But to you, and your Obama, that's just collateral damage. You don't care about the kids. Its all about the 4 billion dollars and the politics.

And you left out the fact that a Democratic Congress made that law that you claim Obama is following.

But then you're not interested in the truth, or the children.

You're just interested in promoting your own narrow partisan political position. And if some 11 year old dies in the desert, its not your, or Obama's fault.

Is it?

Uno
 
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Svnla

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What's funny is that people in this thread are saying Obama is an imperial president and chastising for not following the laws then on the other hand lambasting him for not doing enough in this situation.

You guys do know that the reason the kids can't be deported is because of a law that.. wait for it.. Bush signed that Obama is following. Do you want him to ignore the law and deport these kids anyhow?

Perfect time to use another Executive Order, show them Republicans who's boss. :whiste:
 

michal1980

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What's funny is that people in this thread are saying Obama is an imperial president and chastising for not following the laws then on the other hand lambasting him for not doing enough in this situation.

You guys do know that the reason the kids can't be deported is because of a law that.. wait for it.. Bush signed that Obama is following. Do you want him to ignore the law and deport these kids anyhow?

he's ignoring plenty of other immigration laws (along with plenty of other laws). so whats stopping him from ignoring this one?

According to the left, if Bush did it, its terrible, so even more reason to ignore it.
 

shortylickens

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What's funny is that people in this thread are saying Obama is an imperial president and chastising for not following the laws then on the other hand lambasting him for not doing enough in this situation.

You guys do know that the reason the kids can't be deported is because of a law that.. wait for it.. Bush signed that Obama is following. Do you want him to ignore the law and deport these kids anyhow?

I never said that.

I'd be happy if the son of a bitch JUST did his job and stopped acting like he's too god damn cool to work with congress or the supreme court.
 

emperus

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Quite the coincidence that the Obama administration was soliciting bids from vendors for the transportation of 65,000 illegal immigrant children back in January. Yes, the law will not allow for deportations without some process for children that the regime solicited to come here - niiice. I'm not surprised that you're defending the actions of this administration to intentionally undermine a border already far from secured as well as burden the nation with billions of dollars of costs for this intentional violation of immigration law.

When given a choice between beer, billiards and the border, Obama chose beer and billiards. Viva la revolucion!

How do you respond to crazy talk?
 

emperus

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I never said that.

I'd be happy if the son of a bitch JUST did his job and stopped acting like he's too god damn cool to work with congress or the supreme court.

So, what do you want him to do in this situation?


1.) Work with Congress?
Republicans refuse to do an immigration bill. In fact the majority leader just los reelection because he suggested doing an Immigration Bill.

2.) Work with Supreme COurt?
How does a president work with the supreme court? What could the Supreme court even do? You do know how the Supreme Court works.

3.) Disobey the Law and Send the kids back with an Executive Order. I'm sure you'd want him impeached after that.

Pick one.
 

MetalMat

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So I guess half of the money will go towards border security and the other half for the department of health and human services.
 

emperus

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he's ignoring plenty of other immigration laws (along with plenty of other laws). so whats stopping him from ignoring this one?

According to the left, if Bush did it, its terrible, so even more reason to ignore it.

Pls. figure out your outrage. Are you outraged you think he is ignoring laws as you wrote below or outraged that he isn't ignoring enough laws as you wrote above?

your king chooses which laws to follow. Why should I be any different?

Or are there different laws for pigs?
 
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