ICE dumping thousands of illegal kids in Arizona. abandoned without food and water

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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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The kids aren't from Mexico right?
Should Canada just dump every illegal back into the US?


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Well, since most of our illegals are American that might make sense
But I'm referring to all those who just crossed through America

They are crossing at the MEXICAN BORDER. Mexico is enabling this.
 

Orignal Earl

Diamond Member
Oct 27, 2005
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They are crossing at the MEXICAN BORDER. Mexico is enabling this.

I swear a lot of righties here, totally lack the ability to see things properly
It's like the quote in your sig. There is no way a liberal would be annoyed by what John Smith said, but you think they would

I should start a charity offering to help integrate you into society.
There is no doubt once you guys start to integrate with American society, your night terrors, the profuse sweating, the hand wringing and washing, will all start to disappear.
You will live a longer happier life, and America overall will be a lot better place
 
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OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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America is not a better place but being the dumping ground for central America's problems.

that is what is happening. the illegals are getting bus passes to anyplace they say they have family with a promise to appear in 15 days... wtf you may as well just put a big ass sign saying comon in.

fucking sad.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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I swear a lot of righties here, totally lack the ability to see things properly
It's like the quote in your sig. There is no way a liberal would be annoyed by what John Smith said, but you think they would

I should start a charity offering to help integrate you into society.
There is no doubt once you guys start to integrate with American society, your night terrors, the profuse sweating, the hand wringing and washing, will all start to disappear.
You will live a longer happier life, and America overall will be a lot better place

I swear a lot of lefties here, totally lack the ability to see things properly.

See, I feel the same way about you. Blinded completely by your uber liberal vision of how things should be. Completely in opposition to reality.

My sig must you as several of you lefties have commented on it.

What do you think we should do about the masses flowing freely across the border? Would you be willing to let a dozen or so move in with you?
 

Orignal Earl

Diamond Member
Oct 27, 2005
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I swear a lot of lefties here, totally lack the ability to see things properly.

See, I feel the same way about you. Blinded completely by your uber liberal vision of how things should be. Completely in opposition to reality.

My sig must you as several of you lefties have commented on it.

What do you think we should do about the masses flowing freely across the border? Would you be willing to let a dozen or so move in with you?

John Smith said that the rich should have to work in the fields just like the poor if they want to eat, that they shouldn't be able to just buy their way when things were tough

Sure, I will take all those kids in.
Without a doubt within a decade, the payback I would receive would be huge.
As a uber liberal though I would settle for a hug
 

michal1980

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John Smith said that the rich should have to work in the fields just like the poor if they want to eat, that they shouldn't be able to just buy their way when things were tough

Sure, I will take all those kids in.
Without a doubt within a decade, the payback I would receive would be huge.
As a uber liberal though I would settle for a hug

can we get your address so we can hand it out at the border?

millions of poor & uneducated streaming over the border is not good for the USA.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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John Smith said that the rich should have to work in the fields just like the poor if they want to eat, that they shouldn't be able to just buy their way when things were tough

Sure, I will take all those kids in.
Without a doubt within a decade, the payback I would receive would be huge.
As a uber liberal though I would settle for a hug

You would do this in detriment to your own family? Bull Shit!

I actually think you are being dishonest with yourself ( and us ). You are saying what you want us and yourself to believe. As you well know you cannot do this or prove that you would either... It is Hollow Claim at best, a lie at worst.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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How would they be a detriment to my family?

You really are clueless aren't you.

Move a few hundred into your house. Pay for all of their food and expenses on your same paycheck and then tell me how that works out.


wtf..
Seriously? Did you miss the hundred times that Whiskey guy has reposted Nebors threat?
Heh, at least Nebor is right about how no one cares or ignores his posts.

Nope, never seen these "threats". Post a link.
 

Orignal Earl

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Oct 27, 2005
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You really are clueless aren't you.

Move a few hundred into your house. Pay for all of their food and expenses on your same paycheck and then tell me how that works out.

You really are clueless if you think 200 people could fit in my house, and I would barely be able to type if I was stupid enough to think that it would not cost me more money

Nope, never seen these "threats". Post a link.

That search feature up above would help you in the future


http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2318401&highlight=death+threat&page=2
 

nehalem256

Lifer
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You really are clueless if you think 200 people could fit in my house, and I would barely be able to type if I was stupid enough to think that it would not cost me more money

And yet you seem to be fine with 1000s of children coming into the US illegally.

You think they won't cost taxpayers any money?
 

nehalem256

Lifer
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"If we are talking of the principle of family reunification, why not reunite them in the United States?" she said, according to a news release from the Foreign Ministry.

Hmm, because they are illegally in the US?
 

Jaskalas

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that is what is happening. the illegals are getting bus passes to anyplace they say they have family with a promise to appear in 15 days... wtf you may as well just put a big ass sign saying comon in.

fucking sad.

This is the "Dream Act" via executive order. Yes, the President is directly complicit in facilitating this disaster. His only complaint might be the lack of resources to provide them all welfare. Anyone feel like bending over and paying?

There are enough Americans who do not want this invasion. Put the military on the border and seal it. Enforce American immigration laws! This is quickly reaching the point of no return, an orchestrated Cloward-Piven Strategy.

Overwhelm the system? Look no further than the millions streaming across the southern border. What do you think America will be after the dust settles?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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You really are clueless if you think 200 people could fit in my house, and I would barely be able to type if I was stupid enough to think that it would not cost me more money.

Exactly my point. Thank you very much. The US doesn't have the need or money to support these South / Central American Orphans ( as their parents have obviously thrown them away ) and Mexico too.

They expect between 60,000 - 80,000 this year. And the Honduran government is asking us to keep them. I think we need to send them to Canada.

You would have to reduce what your own family has earned to support these coming in. They would be deprived and so would you.




And you took that seriously... OK.
 
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boomerang

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Well we can't fault the feds for not planning ahead on this. In January of this year they were looking for vendors to escort unaccompanied alien children. The vendor was to provide services 7/365 for 65,000. Yes, they knew ahead of time and planned for it. I wonder who got the job?

http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/feds-advertised-escort-services-unaccompanied-alien-children-january/

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...fbc917a46d6709d38bd&tab=core&tabmode=list&amp

Procurement Type: Request for Information (RFI)/Sources Sought

Title: Escort Services for Unaccompanied Alien Children

Classification Code: V- Transportation/Travel/Relocation

NAICS code: 561612

Primary POC: Rachel Ali, Contract Specialist/ Rachel.Ali@ice.dhs.gov

Secondary POC: Tony Ross, Contracting Officer/ Tony.Ross@ice.dhs.gov

A. Introduction


U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), a component of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), has a continuing and mission critical responsibility for accepting custody of Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) from U.S. Border Patrol and other Federal agencies and transporting these juveniles to Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) shelters located throughout the continental United States. ICE is seeking the services of a responsible vendor that shares the philosophy of treating all UAC with dignity and respect, while adhering to standard operating procedures and policies that allow for an effective, efficient, and incident free transport. The Contractor shall provide unarmed escort staff, including management, supervision, manpower, training, certifications, licenses, drug testing, equipment, and supplies necessary to provide on-demand escort services for non-criminal/non-delinquent unaccompanied alien children ages infant to 17 years of age, seven (7) days a week, 365 days a year. Transport will be required for either category of UAC or individual juveniles, to include both male and female juveniles. There will be approximately 65,000 UAC in total: 25% local ground transport, 25% via ICE charter and 50% via commercial air. Escort services include, but are not limited to, assisting with: transferring physical custody of UAC from DHS to Health and Human Services (HHS) care via ground or air methods of transportation (charter or commercial carrier), property inventory, providing juveniles with meals, drafting reports, generating transport documents, maintaining/stocking daily supplies, providing and issuing clothing as needed, coordinating with DHS and HHS staff, travel coordination, limited stationary guard services to accommodate for trip disruptions due to inclement weather, faulty equipment, or other exigent circumstances. In emergency situations, the Contractor shall be called on to provide temporary shelter locations (such as trailers) with shower facilities for juveniles who are pending placement with HHS when bed space is unavailable nationwide for extended periods of time. The Contractor shall provide temporary guard services and other support as necessary during these emergencies.

In addition, the Contractor shall have personnel who are able to communicate with juveniles in their own designated language(s). While this may not require each employee to be fluent in all of the encountered languages, personnel should have access to and knowledge of translation services.

B. ICE Standards/Special Requirements

The contractor is required to perform in accordance with the ICE Performance Based National Detention Standards (PBNDS 2011), all ICE policies related to the transportation of juveniles (see the ICE Family Residential Standards at http://www.ice.gov/detention-standards/family-residential/) as well as the Flores Settlement Agreement, the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, and the Homeland Security Act of 2002. In cases where other standards conflict with DHS/ICE Policy or Standards, DHS/ICE Policy and Standards will prevail. ICE Inspectors will conduct periodic inspections to assure compliance of the aforementioned standards.

Personnel shall have the knowledge and experience to transport individual children with special needs. Often times, children with special needs may require a transportation method that is time saving and direct, i.e. by commercial airline. Contractor shall also provide for accompanying medical care. Additionally, due to exigent circumstances, the Contractor shall be required to transport juveniles via ground to HUB airports or other staging areas that are not located within the area of initial apprehension.

The Contractor shall follow a fully developed training curriculum and transporting staff shall have the highest level of competency possible. Areas of training shall include, but are not limited to the following: Airport rules and regulations for travelers, crisis intervention, child development, working with and transporting youth with special needs, transporting youth with behavioral problems, CPR & First Aid training, non-secured UAC policy and procedures and the implementation of contingency plans in the event of a crisis during transport, which include de-escalation techniques.


· Background Investigations and Suitability Screenings will be conducted on all Contract Employees by the Office of Professional Responsibility and Personnel Security Unit (OPR-OSU).
· The Contractor shall agree that each employee working on this contract will successfully pass the DHS Employment Eligibility (E-Verify) program operated by USICS to establish work authorization and U.S. Citizenship.
· Employees must reside in the United States.

[FONT=&quot]C. Contract Type[/FONT]


The Government anticipates awarding a five (5) year Fixed Price Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract vehicle consisting of a one year base period, and four (4) option years. The Service Contract
Act is applicable to this acquisition. All required clauses, provisions will be included in the solicitation and resulting contractual instrument.

The anticipated release date of the solicitation is March 3, 2014. The solicitation closing date will be thirty (30) days after release of the Request for Proposal (RFP).

Projected Set-Aside: All business sizes are welcome to participate; however, ICE is trying to determine small business interest, particularly HubZone companies. All information received in response in to this notice will be used to determine the appropriateness of any small business set-aside for this requirement.


D. Place of Performance:

Service Area: Throughout the Continental United States (US)

The area(s) or region(s) serviced may occur either with a phased approach over a period of several months to a full year. Alternatively, the Contractor shall perform the entire transportation function upon full funding. For example, the following two circumstances may occur: (1) The contractor could initially provide transportation services only in the Southwest Region of the U.S. for those juveniles who are apprehended in the state of Texas; or, (2) The Contractor may be required to provide transportation services for all juveniles who are in DHS custody throughout the continental U.S.


E. RFI Purpose/Requirements

The purpose of this RFI is to obtain market information and capabilities for planning purposes and to determine appropriate strategies to meet the Agency's requirements. This RFI is issued solely for information and planning purposes and does not constitute a Request for Proposal (RFP) or a commitment for an RFP in the future. Responses to this notice are not considered offers and cannot be accepted by the Government to form a binding contract. Responders are advised that the Government will not pay for any information or administrative cost incurred in response to this announcement and information submitted in response to this RFI will not be returned.

Interested parties are instructed to submit the following information: (Note: Please do not exceed 5 pages per RFI submission)

· POC information (name, title, phone number, address, email address, etc.)
· Socio-economic status
· Brief Company Capability statement (to include addressing all special needs as stated above)


F. Submissions and Point of Contact Information

Submit written or electronic submissions via email to Rachel.Ali@ice.dhs.gov by 1:00pm EST on Monday, February 19, 2014.

End of RFI
 
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