ICE dumping thousands of illegal kids in Arizona. abandoned without food and water

[Darwin333]

Wait are mad because these illegals are being caught? Or are you mad because they are catching so many? Or are you mad because we don't have anywhere to put all these caught illegals?

What exactly should we be doing? Put them on a bus? A plane? Or are you mad because we aren't giving them shelter or free food?

It's hard to tell what your outrage is, it changes so often. I guess that's the problem with being the boy who cried wolf...now you just look like an asshole flailing your arms

I would assume that we could all agree that moving them from one part of the US to another part of the US and then leaving them there is not even a remotely good idea.

 

[Darwin333]

why not just ship the kids back to el Salvador or whatever latin country they came from?

why does the Us only ship kids back if they came from mexico?
is it because of easy transport to the Mexican border to hand off vs the expense of going thru mexico to latin America?

Budget cuts.... If you don't book a few months in advance it costs a ton to fly someone to El Salvador and in order to book a few months in advance you have to catch them and hold them for a few months and that costs quite a bit too.

 

[cabri]

Budget cuts.... If you don't book a few months in advance it costs a ton to fly someone to El Salvador and in order to book a few months in advance you have to catch them and hold them for a few months and that costs quite a bit too.

The gov can lease a Boeing a lot cheaper than buying plane tickets. Plus there are USAF transports that can be outfited for a 3 hr flight.

 

[schmuckley]

If the border was secure;This would not be a problem.
However it is not;and it is.

 

[Zaap]

The gov can lease a Boeing a lot cheaper than buying plane tickets. Plus there are USAF transports that can be outfited for a 3 hr flight.

Remember:

Invite in endless waves of near immediate wards of the state= ENDLESS money. "COME ON UP! Come one, come all, send your children, bring your families, extended families, friends, people you meet along the way... no skills, no nothing needed. Streets paved with gold, baby!"



Some plane flights down to whatever country that's flooding ours with illegals= "BUDGET CUTS!!! AIIIEEEKKK!!!!! ARRGHHHH!!! POVERTEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! NO MONEY!!!!!! SCREEEEEEEEEECH!!!!!!"

 

[MongGrel]

To be serious, I usually don't chime in on these ones too much but it just keeps getting crazier with population levels and stupid things.

I remember being a teenager and talking about the border issue when I was a teenager playing basketball in around 1975/76, and it just has progressively gotten worse to be honest.

You want to see me be a real dick, I'll blame the Catholic church and no birth control for a long time and promoting this expansion in the population in Central America, while probably promoting it for profits off tithing etc.

I'm Baptized a Lutheran myself, though I haven't been to church in ages, and my wife is an Italian lapsed Catholic.

Her Mother was even a long time Catholic that doesn't go anymore, hell we went to get married her mother wanted it in a Catholic church at the time and was so much red tape over BS she told them to go to hell.

Just another Organization that sucks money off people.

I was even playing basketball with my best friends at the time who where Catholic and Polish, they didn't like what was happening then even either.

Remember, this was like 1975, so ?

Much as I hate to sound like a Liberterian, the US needs to focus a bit more on home ground requirements, we've been focused on trying to prop up other countries for way, way too long.

The only problem with that is we have companies that have moved our manufacturing base offshore in major ways, Tax Shelters in the Caymans, etc, etc.

It's just greed all over in the US in general these days, try to find something you can live off of and survive I guess, why they are running up here trying to cross the border anyway.

Turn the country into one big Amsterdam in the near future and legalize most things, you wouldn't need drug cartels etc.

He he, ok enough of that, but the country FUBARR ATM anyways.

 

[OutHouse]

Well we can't fault the feds for not planning ahead on this. In January of this year they were looking for vendors to escort unaccompanied alien children. The vendor was to provide services 7/365 for 65,000. Yes, they knew ahead of time and planned for it. I wonder who got the job?

http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/feds-advertised-escort-services-unaccompanied-alien-children-january/

holy shit.

 

[boomerang]

holy shit.

To put it mildly. A coordinated effort with Central American nations to import children into the U.S. that required both forethought and planning. It was not anticipated, it was scheduled. Marked on the calendar.

It dovetails nicely with the strategy proposed by a couple of Columbia University sociologists. Bring down capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of social demands that are impossible to meet and it's being orchestrated from within our own government. No outside forces at play, no rebellious electorate, it's being done by our own government.

Yeah, cue the faithful followers to say I'm wrong. That's a simple thing to do, just words. But...what if I'm right?

943 days left in the Obama Presidency. 943 days to complete the fundamental transformation. The dreams of Obama Sr. will be fulfilled.

 

[JEDI]

If the border was secure;This would not be a problem.
However it is not;and it is.

/Repub

Just shoot them all and dump the bodies into the Mexican river.
secondary effect effect- feeds the poor

win+win

/Repub

 

[Pneumothorax]

/Demo

Just open the border and allow ALL OF THEM IN

then bitch about the overcrowding of prisons, crowded classrooms with not enough funding for ESL, not enough funding for WIC/SNAP, Millions of new Democrap voters

WIN WIN WIN

/Demo

 

[Jaskalas]

Well we can't fault the feds for not planning ahead on this. In January of this year they were looking for vendors to escort unaccompanied alien children. The vendor was to provide services 7/365 for 65,000. Yes, they knew ahead of time and planned for it. I wonder who got the job?

http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/feds-advertised-escort-services-unaccompanied-alien-children-january/

The President and his executive orders re: illegal immigration are directly responsible for this. A campaign for impeachment is the only proper response. This is an invasion orchestrated by our own government, a war against the American people. Bullets, tanks, and planes may not be involved, but our localities will be devastated by this flood of unwashed poverty.

States need to take action on their own to stop this, and to protect the American people.

 

[shortylickens]

Conflicted.


On the one hand, I despite illegals and their supporters.

On the other hand, WTF? That is some fucked up shit right there.

 

[JEDIYoda]

But Jesus loves the illegal immigrants too....

 

[Zaap]

/Demo

Just open the border and allow ALL OF THEM IN

then bitch about the overcrowding of prisons, crowded classrooms with not enough funding for ESL, not enough funding for WIC/SNAP, Millions of new Democrap voters...

you left out:

whine insessantly about raising the minimum wage (swearing that raising wages doesn't effect inflation)...

... while cheering on millions of illegals flooding in, insist laws be ignored, handing employers on a silver platter the massive out of paying illegal workforces LESS than minimum wage (swearing that raising wages to citizen-attracting levels will bring MASSIVE inflation. Cue: FUD stories of $80 tomatoes, etc.)

/Demo

 

[Zebo]

/Repub

Just shoot them all and dump the bodies into the Mexican river.
secondary effect effect- feeds the poor

win+win

/Repub

I dont think we ever shot them even in the 1930s and 1950s when we had zero immigration polices.

Mexico did shoot them. Until they figured out it was best to charge them and shuttle them to our border.

 

[Zebo]

But Jesus loves the illegal immigrants too....

Who gives a shit about Jesus? Does he have to send his kids to over crowed shools? Compete in a job market already full? Especially at the bottom for low wage jobs? Jesus might love em but we dont. Like 80% of Americans think we are too full. But powers that be want them here so that 80% will lose.

I dont really give a shit. Doesn't bother me Im retired but I feel it's a bad for poor ppl and young ppl like my kids and their peers. Am I being selfish looking out for Americans and mine yeah probably but no more selfish than an illegal that is coming here for more opportunity. Tough issue indeed.

 

[shortylickens]

But Jesus loves the illegal immigrants too....

Jesus isnt real. And god isnt explainable by our standards, so we humans need to think for ourselves.

 

[Stewox]

Latest: http://www.infowars.com/tide-of-unaccompanied-toddlers-continues-to-flood-across-border/

 

[Jay5]

im just waiting until the first dozen illegals end up dead after they try their cartel stuff in a country that has plenty of gun owners in it

 

[MongGrel]

The President and his executive orders re: illegal immigration are directly responsible for this. A campaign for impeachment is the only proper response. This is an invasion orchestrated by our own government, a war against the American people. Bullets, tanks, and planes may not be involved, but our localities will be devastated by this flood of unwashed poverty.

States need to take action on their own to stop this, and to protect the American people.

Just really, go take a Prozac and drink some beer or something.

If anyone was going to get impeached over executive orders Dubya wouldn't have lasted 8 years.

You sound like someone just pulled a string on your back and a bunch of prerecorded BS flowed forth.

Go hang out with Stewox.

After reading down a bit I'd forgotten he was back, someone must of let him out of the institution.

 

[Victorian Gray]

im just waiting until the first dozen illegals end up dead after they try their cartel stuff in a country that has plenty of gun owners in it

"Approximately 1.4 million people were part of gangs as of 2011, and more than 33,000 gangs were active in the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_the_United_States

All that cartel stuff is already in the U.S. They're just not quite as obvious/brazen as in Latin America. There's also a much greater ethnic mix as well.

I also suspect that the numbers are rather larger than what is officially accepted.

 

[Zaap]

im just waiting until the first dozen illegals end up dead after they try their cartel stuff in a country that has plenty of gun owners in it

What exactly are you waiting for, a time warp?

Seriously, who in their right mind thinks the cartels are afraid of committing crimes in the US?

Hell, our government GIVES them guns, running their keystone-cop operations.

The cartels often use illegals as drug mules. What do you think happens to anyone transporting their drugs that crosses them? Sent to bed without dinner? Tickle-torture?

And gangs on either side of the border scared of legal gun owners- that's a laugh!

 

[OutHouse]

Who gives a shit about Jesus?

a few billion people?

 

[Stewox]

Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN7GFnZui18

 

[michal1980]

don't worry. Liberals want to give this illegals free lawyers.

http://news.yahoo.com/democratic-la...-202634979.html;_ylt=AwrBEiHWlahTKDEA6ZjQtDMD

Just WTF for? Why is there even a court date required? Caught you at the border? Heres a greyhound bus ride back.